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What a completely screwed up system. (Angry Rant)
zippoastaroth
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Im a DC, and a pretty darn good one for my gear score. I have a bit of t2, only 3 pieces.
Im in Caverns of Karrundax. Everything is going smoothly. Nobody's talking so i figure they're in an xbox party. Yep they were, boss is at 5% and i get vote kicked. Guess they didn't want me bidding on the cleric gear.
The loot System is fine. But Vote kicking during a BOSS fight? Seriously? I spent AN HOUR.
I should have known better. i mean i came into otherwise full group. But because their friend sucks, i was /gimpkicked so their cleric friend could get gear. because he sucks so bad they couldnt finish with him, they needed me.
Thats what im calling it. /Gimpkicking, because thats the only way ^%$%^ gimps can get gear. No no, forget trying. We'll get someone who knows how to play their class, then kick him at the last minute. Hell id have said screw it, take the item, ill pass, least i can get my chest. NOPE. **** this ****.
No matter how butt hurt i have been in the past, ive never really wanted to ragequit a game, but this has happened to me FOUR times in the last WEEK. Thats complete bull****.
Im in Caverns of Karrundax. Everything is going smoothly. Nobody's talking so i figure they're in an xbox party. Yep they were, boss is at 5% and i get vote kicked. Guess they didn't want me bidding on the cleric gear.
The loot System is fine. But Vote kicking during a BOSS fight? Seriously? I spent AN HOUR.
I should have known better. i mean i came into otherwise full group. But because their friend sucks, i was /gimpkicked so their cleric friend could get gear. because he sucks so bad they couldnt finish with him, they needed me.
Thats what im calling it. /Gimpkicking, because thats the only way ^%$%^ gimps can get gear. No no, forget trying. We'll get someone who knows how to play their class, then kick him at the last minute. Hell id have said screw it, take the item, ill pass, least i can get my chest. NOPE. **** this ****.
No matter how butt hurt i have been in the past, ive never really wanted to ragequit a game, but this has happened to me FOUR times in the last WEEK. Thats complete bull****.
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I agree votekicking is a problem, but after getting kicked once I would make it a point to at least team up with and party invite two others before doing a dungeon dive. Ran a T2 a few days ago with randoms who did a dragon with me, we all had a mic and decided to do a run.
Not saying what happened to you is okay, saying you running in a pug and having zero communication with them are you even surprized at all?
1.) Same class. Noone should get gear over a PC player as they have already put time and money into it.
2.) Not playing with the same skills as the average PC players because the game was there first and they obviously know the best setups (not going to acknowledge the fact we are on diff mode anyway....)
3.) Because its funny
4.) Lastly he and his friends hassle so many people so NW will not be successful due to unhappy fan base and the company goes back to focusing all their time on PC which isn't that fun anymore
These were a PC players reasons. Granted, I do not know if he played PC. But with his knowledge I assume he did. This is sad, this is the kind of mindset that flourishes with systems like these in place. Trolls grow stronger, the fans who really want to play start to lose interest. To any PC player like this, and if the person himself is reading this, WTF. No excuse to be such a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. You should be happy the game is getting played by other people. Should be helping out instead of hurting the game with your toxic mindset.
I'm from the PC version and I would like to apologize for the immature dealings you witnessed with these jerks. I always hated the idea of kicking people regardless of their class. It all can be done just some will take longer but the end is just the same. However, I did have issues with players that really didn't know their roles. Just because your level 60 doesn't mean you are ready for what Valindra throws at you.
What really sucks is that the new players to NW see this "/gimpkicking or /booting at the start and think its a norm and do that when they make a party. A vicious cycle. These "PC players" are a virus that flocked to the xbox. If they think PC players have the right to get these items first, they shouldve stayed on the PC. I honestly think these bullies were the victims of "small fish in a big pond" on the PC and thought they can be the big bad divas on the xbox.
So, with that said, I don't boot people because of their class, i just want to get my chest. hit me up when you feel frustrated and let's go get wiped on Karrundax, lol
Skeeziks@AznNxt
Drives me nuts cause i figure if we have 2 clerics then we CANT lose, and id rather complete the dungeon then try and get that additional maybe armor.
Your example is of some jerk, as much as i want to wait 15 minutes to kick 20 people, i really just want a dead boss lol, i really hope he wasnt an example of the general populace
However it will get better in time regardless just as it did for the PC version especially after communities were formed.
As to the behavior experienced by "PC Players" I wouldn't be surprised if those were a bunch of kids trying to find an excuse to act like immature brats. Most PC Players hate being kicked as much as you do so over time the horrible behavior lessened as the immature me-too crowd left.
^This
We are coming into E3 season, so the immature idiots will be dazzled by another new game (probably ESO) and will move on.... Fingers crossed. People who are quitting now at this early stage are just plain silly.... In the end, this game is in it's infancy and can only get better (another fingers crossed).
That and it's a refreshing change to have something other than FPS dominate consoles
BamBam - Lvl 30 GWF
Trevok - Lvl 30 GF
Wil - Lvl 25 TR (PvP)
Question - Why does it not show who the original start of the kick is? This way we could report that player for doing so.
I don't mind doing these easy low GS T1 dungeons for now but will be looking for a guild when I want to do harder ones simply so I dont get kicked and so I get the help I might need even thoguh I'm getting better with my HR
https://youtube.com/channel/UCHpxPsGP_kfPXaW622qSXyA
lol you really think console gamers will freely stop kicking at end boss on their own, you don't know console gamers at all add the real world based economy for stuff and its a total receipe for disaster. It will just get worse than it already is as even more people learn about it, it is already being done at rampant levels atm. Only way it gets sorted is if developers fix the exploit, it's not going to magically sort itself out and that's a terrible attitude to have.
I never said it will be completely solved but it will get better in time on its own just as it did with the PC version as the most immature and self centered got bored and the long term player communities were formed.
Got into Pirates lair with 4 guys from the same guild and one of them was also a TR. Figured I was a goner but play commenced. We cruised through it and thankfully they didn't run for the campfire after Bonegristle either. Kill the king and 2 TR items drop. All four of them passed on both items! Couldn't believe it. Sent a group text saying thanks and went on my way. So despite all the griefers there are still some cool people playing.
translation = ''basically, we are not gonna fix it, you guys just wait and hope it gets better''???
anyone else read it that way or was it just me =/
I get sick of having to wait while the other 3 people are running the revolving door on slot 5 (yeah, yeah, my own fault for being a LVL 60 guild-less solo!). The one that baffles me even more though is when it is happening to other CWs. I don't give a **** about a 2nd CW in a team, it's unlikely I'm going to need to loot dropped for a CW anyway (complete T2 PVP with a blue artifact orb).
Revolving door on the 5th slot is annoying, and easily capable of increasing the time in a dungeon by as much as twice the norm, worst is when it is happening at the last boss (and completely f***ing stupid in the Dread Vault since it renders that one impossible to finish at all).
I'm not going to say remove vote-kick altogether, the gods know, there are times it is needed, but perhaps automatic disabling of vote-kick immediately after the last of the mini-bosses is down might be a good alternative.
wonderful post.
Yes, not an honest mistake at all.
So y'all have been pushing for it for well over a year now and they still haven't addressed it. Then I highly doubt they ever will.
Also for those who dont know, for over a year till launch there was NO votekicking, the leader could just kick ANYONE he wanted. Imagine the chaos we lived for over a year. Anyone who had the lead was like the party dictator. Imagine how many legitimate players who loved the game and spent SO MUCH TIME and money were literally stripped of their efforts so cheaply. How many of these people learned to HATE this game just by being exposed to this immensly provocative system? At least in xbox you started with the votekick, not so degrading as the "leader kicks all before boss dies" though its still a badly designed way to help people join a guild or make friends.
Hey Bro join me and my crew if you ever wanna run a dungeon to avoid kicking. Gamertag: Sir Please / Turoks 147
All I can remember is that the guild name had Lunchbox in it.
https://youtube.com/channel/UCHpxPsGP_kfPXaW622qSXyA