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metalldjt
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you guys have fixed the problem with multi proccing, more or less.
but you guys need to REMOVE THE AMPLIFIERS of that, the damage from lostmauth gets buffed from it.
this needs to be fixed. so the damage wont multiply making lostmauth set doing exageratte damage of over 100k unmitigated damage, this should be tonned down.
but you guys need to REMOVE THE AMPLIFIERS of that, the damage from lostmauth gets buffed from it.
this needs to be fixed. so the damage wont multiply making lostmauth set doing exageratte damage of over 100k unmitigated damage, this should be tonned down.
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In pve, it is BIS for every single dps class whether you can use the stats on the belt or not. I think that shows that something is out of line. For most classes its 15-25% of your dps. For some it can be upwards of 30%. If anyone wants to dispute this fact I will be more than happy to provide ACT logs of every dungeon run I do over the next week to satisfy you. Caster/melee -> doesnt matter. This is the best PVE dps set hands down, and I think thats a problem.
YOU have already buffs FOR tier 2 run
1.Devoted cleric: divine glow:buff debuff heal.
Astral shield:40% damage resistance and mitigate damage empowered.
hallowed ground 20%damage resistance and damage.
2.guardian fighter: into the fray : equal to his damage resistance is his damage buff+ action points generation during the buff and speed.
knight valor 40% damage resistance and guardian fighter get the half damage of the players and build bonus threat.AND ofcourse the combat advantage from mark and tide of iron debuff.
renegade wizard has also town of buffs and also does and control hunter ranger with longstrider shot + the fox cunning gwf sw pure damage dealers.
paladins with wow of enmity bane circle of power.BUFFS are available think how to use them:)
Then it doesnt change the fact that its even BETTER for classes like TR/CW that can get 100% crit chance.
Better solution would be to add an ICD on it, leave amplifiers, then address classes that can get crazy amplifiers (like GWF) and tone then back while increasing base damage.
NO class should have more than 100% damage amplifier. Period. So if a class has more than 100% (not from Power or STR) then it needs to be addressed by they need to deal DOUBLE the damage to have their damage be "inline". If a class needs 100% damage bonus, what they REALLY need is an increase in base damage instead and a REMOVAL of some damage bonuses.
Or they shouldnt be there AT ALL!
Remove the whole **** damage bonus from both feats for all I care and then give GWFs 100% increase to BASE damage. Net same spot.
All these damage bonuses are just ****! ITs ruining the game.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
I'll try and get some logs for pve and pvp.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
...then anyway someone starts to cry, and beg for nerfs for players ;>
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
Otherwise I'm gonna have to start shopping for lostmauth artifacts. Anyone have a Hoard Necklace cheap? ;D
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Thanks for all the fish.
They cant "tone it down a little bit" the only way to fix this was be remove damage bonuses affecting it which will cut the damage of the set by like 2/3rds meaning itll deal literally ~ 1/3rd the damage it does now for most classes. Thats not a little bit anyways.
I have posted the REAL solution and that would be to add an ICD to it, so a class (this is JUST ONE EXAMPLE) TR cant spam COS in stealth and get a proc every time. With ~ 4-5 sec CD, it would be MORE fair for MORE classes without hurting damage as much.
I'm refusing to use the set and my damage is wonderfully fine. I still outperform every single lostmauth set user, I think people will be fine without broken 25% of their DPS taken away. No ICD, just a nerf bat. Think of PVE, it can crit up to 100k A PROC. Just like they did to Deep Gash. No external buffs, can't crit, that's it. 2k a proc and there we go, a perfectly balanced set that's on par with the other sets in-game.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
As you can see there's a lot of crit, and the set still only contributes to 6% of my overall dps. It's usually around 8% in most normal fights that I'm in. I was trying out something, so somehow it was a bit lower in this fight.
I'll run some with my TR and post some results for that as well.
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1) make it a flat weapon damage proc. No damage modifiers.
Issue: This benefits classes that can stack crit higher than others (like TR or CW).
2) put an ICD on it. Around 3seconds should work.
I think this is the best option. It levels out which classes get the best benefit. A TR or CWs crit advantage is gone. Classes with slower attack speed like GF gain almost as much benefit as others now.
This would bring the total damage down <10% for MOST classes (I think CW might still be over 10% but IDK).
Or, idk, remove the damage by proc altogether and make it a flat increase to Crit Severity (say somewhere along the 5-10% mark)
So again, it benefits classes like TR/CW the most who have periods of 100% crit chance?
Right now the TWO classes that get the MOST benefit from it at TRs and CWs. For a CW it will make up easily north of 20% of your total damage for a TR its not uncommon at all to see 15-20% from LOL set.
For my GWF (BTW 4,700 item level and I crit stack) Its right around 9-10% of my damage.
Making it severity only increases the benefits.
Now if you REALLY want to make it interesting and possible very balanced. Id almost suggest something like this:
"Change the Proc on Crit to a Proc on NON-Crit"
What this does is removes the fact that LOL procs are 100% crit, so that would right away nerf the damage by ~ 50%. What it also does is more "evens out" the damage. Either you CRIT and get no proc or you DONT crit and get a proc. Now classes who want to build around this must choose crit versus pure damage. Classes that stack crit (like TR/CW) will no longer get a massive synergy of Burst on Burst, and now its aLOT more of a tradeoff.....
I know alot of CWs and TRs that will flame this idea though, although to be honest its probably the best solution.... Either that or an ICD of ~3-5 seconds on the proc so all classes can benefit (both high and low crit) as well as fast attacking AND slow attacking.
for me its 20%-25% of my damage and im very close to BiS with over 90% Crit Chance in combat.
It should have a ICD across all classes wouldn't hurt if its over 10 seconds or more. The proc would still be impactful and noticable, but not reliable.
It definitly needs a nerf to be similar to Black Ice or Imperial set boni in terms of damage.
What aryoux talks about probably refers to PvP.
As for PvE: GWF highly profits from it since we easily gain plenty of offensive stats and have much more self buffs and enemy debuffs as non-selfish Strikers. We can proc lostmauth with not even .7 seconds in between through for example Weapon Masters Strike which has 2 damage ticks which both proc lostmauth making 1 at will produce 4 hits.
Lostmauth adds nothing, but damage not a valuable mechanic or anything just pure damage which is nice on a Damage Dealer or in PvP in general.
I don't have a problem with it becoming a specialist set that benefits some classes/builds much more than others. Changing to a small crit severity boost also will bring it down way below that 15-20% of a toon's total damage.
You may wonder why i do not have the lostmauth set. Well i lacked the foresight to review all of the set bonuses and based my decision off of the ability scores, had I known the disparity between the sets before acquiring and lvling the artifact set. I would have chosen differently, and if the set bonuses do not change, I will switch to the lostmauth set the next 2xRP weekend (I lack the motivation to start over feeding three more artifacts without getting the 80% RP from my existing set).
This is the problem with the artifact system. The artifacts are so hard/expensive to replace, if you pick wrong the consequences are huge, not only in cost, but in the hours of gaming time you spend dragging/dropping RP (RP feed is killing the game, i just want to kill $%#$, if i wanted to feed in a game, i would get a digipet).
Why? Then people without a set are still not gonna be able to compete at all. And they just got rid of set bonuses on armor because they were too powerful, then right away created this set.
Set bonuses should be small and symbolic, not game changers.
This. In. So. Many. Ways.
But Cryptic missed the boat once again...
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