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the new invoking/prayer made sense now, keep this new format.
wylonus
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2 weeks ago, at the first day of mod 6, i didnt like it at first, used to 3 prayers a day tim next 24 hrs to keep build up for 7 days.
if missed by few hours or a day, it reset. due to real life situation or too busy, there nothing i can do.
now this newer invoking process seem to be lot better in lot of different ways.
we no longer had to worry loss if we missed a day, it hold up to 14 then we had to use them before next prayer.
astral seem to be smaller, but still same amount, it all just breaking down to 6 invokings.
first 3 invokes isnt hard to do, timers are shorter, then take a break during a day, then come back to do 4th and if has time for 5th invoke, then come back 90 mins or 2 hours later for final invoke.
lowest level get what was needed, but as on 70 lvl, we get better items. those "resonances stones" are nice to get, even just marginally boosted.
anyway, this new invokings/prayers are good concept, but not as perfect, but still as long as it still working which is acceptable. who knows if there is another upgrade or better timeframe for it.
we all just have to get used to it.
if missed by few hours or a day, it reset. due to real life situation or too busy, there nothing i can do.
now this newer invoking process seem to be lot better in lot of different ways.
we no longer had to worry loss if we missed a day, it hold up to 14 then we had to use them before next prayer.
astral seem to be smaller, but still same amount, it all just breaking down to 6 invokings.
first 3 invokes isnt hard to do, timers are shorter, then take a break during a day, then come back to do 4th and if has time for 5th invoke, then come back 90 mins or 2 hours later for final invoke.
lowest level get what was needed, but as on 70 lvl, we get better items. those "resonances stones" are nice to get, even just marginally boosted.
anyway, this new invokings/prayers are good concept, but not as perfect, but still as long as it still working which is acceptable. who knows if there is another upgrade or better timeframe for it.
we all just have to get used to it.
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I'm betting this new system was introduced more to boost customer metrics for the quarterly reports. Even if the playerbase isn't increasing, getting players to log in more means the game looks like it's doing better on paper at least.
That being said, overall it is an improvement for players who have the time to devote to logging in all 6 times. Giving a small boost in rough AD, a small amount of RP, as well as doubling the AD which can be made selling elixirs of fate, going from around 500 AD/day/character previously to 1k/day/character now. Toss in the change to the coin weapons making them level scaling and surge in value for both snowswift horses and angel companions, and invoking is now more valuable to players than it has been since the first coal ward nerf.
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I love it and I hope they dont change it
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This is how I do it. Yes, it is demanding. Wake up. Do invocation for all my char. Set up professional tasks for all my char. 15 minutes passed just doing these. Do invocation for all my char. Go to shower. Eat breakfast, etc. Half an hour pass. Do invocation for all my char. Go to work.
There are 3 more invocations to do and they will need another 2.5 hours to finish them all when I come home.
For me, it is better this way than before because it take me 5.5 days to get the reward instead of 7 but I can understand not many people can do this my way.
It _might_ be a dirty wee trick to keep the "number of logins"-figure high after Mod 6 impacted on Faerûn. This might be the figure on which someones "performace-dynamized pay component" is based on, or the thing that our previoius lead designer had to push beyond a certain threshold to get promoted away from his chores (though I'd rather deem to believe the motivation for this change of personnel to have been quite the opposite...).
Whatever. Negotiation of what performance indicators are to be prioritizeded, and bending these to match the target, is a whole extracurricular teaching discipline in business administration...
Mouse over the rewards. You get 10k xp and 10k xp boost TWICE a day now. Plus 1500-3k xp on top of that. So its like 25k+ xp if you invoke 6 times in a day. My alts are all 63 from invoking and crafting... almost faster than playing the new content haha.
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Me, I just do a full cycle of all of my characters, and maybe get a second invocation later, and only do all six on just one character, if I have the time to play that long.
Maybe they could change the invocation temple adventure we had on SCA into one that allows us to actually invoke, (as opposed to simply renewing the timer before we lose the coin, since they no longer go away now).
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This is already my 2nd job since I played this game one year ago.
That doesn't make it a perfect system. They could have, very well, remove the part where you lost the coins from the old system.
I'll sign to that
The last time i had the will and/or chance to log in and invoke on all my 3 toons to get the 7-coin chest from all of them was some time before christmas. The new system is much more forgiving in that regard.
Well, I already said I can understand not many people can do this my way.
My schedule was already changed since I started to play this game one year ago. For me personally, mod 6 does not make much different in terms of my schedule.
Before mod 6, I wake up and set the professional tasks for all my chars.
Right now, it is an invocation before setting the professional tasks and one more invocation after. If I can squeeze in another invocation before going to work, great.
And I do not worry about losing coin and I get the coffer in 5.5 days or 2 coffers in 11 days.
Not to mention the constant logoffs/logins appear to be a huge drain on server performance.
^^this..
In this context I'm all on your side, it seems...
My routine,
1st pass Each character invokes, resets professions, resets companions, move to another companion
2nd pass Each character invokes, resets companions, moves to another companion
3rd pass Each character invokes, reset longer professions (only a few of these), reset companions, and move to another companion (this happens less frequently because of the longer queue)
4th pass Same as above. Check for bag issues due to materials being dropped in bag. This weekend, I cleaned out my top bags so I will not to need to do it during the week.
5th pass Same as above. Before I go to bed, I refine AD on alts.
6th pass The last invoke is done in the morning when I wake up. This cuts off the wait time and gives me a free coin with little hassle.
Reset professions and no need to move companions. If I am time constrained no need to level companion.
How to save time on my companions?
I have all the non leveled companions in slots. I am not going to play them now anyway.
Make sure not to slot anything in companions gear until they are leveled to max.
I have completed 8 of 47 this way and many are close to finishing all of them.
I complete my invoke and professions before clicking on the companion picture to get full value out of the experience.
How do I save time on professions?
I have all professions working on leadership or one other profession to limit having to switch back and forth.
I only work on professions at the top of the screen to limit scrolling.
I do not worry about max AD. The game is for fun.
Things I do not do that saves times with invoking and professions.
I do not open boxes except on weekends that there is bonuses for doing so.
I leave one of everything that drops from the invoking in my bags so it will stack and I can control where it goes.
I purchased extra space in my shared personal bank for the new account wide items.
These, I use first when upgrading.
I think invoking requires planning. The benefit in saved time cannot be trivialized. It gives speed boosts in leveling, experience, helps level companions, gives potions, and things to level artifacts. I got my first coal ward after over 120 tries. However, it was free.
I think invoking is cool and yep I may slow down when every alt is level 70:)
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- don't loss any coin (used to lose all the coins if not pray for one day).
- get the coffer as fast as 5.5 days (or 2 coffers in 11 days). Used to be at least 7 days.
- an extra RP stone every day. If your char gets a good RP stone, this is a big plus.
Con:
- need to do 6 times per day in order to get the 2nd coin.
- loss the buff from invocation (used to be able to pray every hour).
- less AD gain if pray not enough.
- if you pray only once per day, you need 11 days to get the coffer.
In short, if you can do 6 invocations per day, it is a big plus.
If you pray only once per day, the only gain you can get is you won't lose the coin. That is a big lose overall if you can only pray once per day.
If you pray less than once per day in average, it is also a plus. You used to have no coin and now you have some coins.
Personally, I like it because I can do 6 invocations per day and I can get the coffer faster.
I have 8 characters. I already got 2 C-Ward since the introduction of mod 6.
The RP stones is another plus. I don't care about AD, potion and buff much.