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Linu's Favor mechanic is...stupid

prettyceltprettycelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 777 Arc User
edited April 2015 in PvE Discussion
Just came back to the game after a break in preparation for Elemental Evil, and started doing the Well of Dragons quests in earnest...specifically, trying to get the 6th and 7th Boons points. Accumulating the required Dragon Coins, Cult Secrets, AD's, gold, no problem. Can even just buy the Books at Auction if need be. But seriously, Cryptic, 30 and then another 50 Linu's Favor?!? Who are we kidding here?

I apparently got EXTREMELY lucky my first time into Tiamat's Temple, the pug I was with won, and I got my 1st Linu's Favor....now, multiple days worth of quests and multiple ventures back into the Temple later, I now have a total of....1.

Because every pug since that first has been a giant boatload of fail, and it doesn't matter how good you are..I regularly place 1st or 2nd in the standings...it has to be a group effort and success...

And 1500 Hoard points for one Linu's? Really? I invest a few hours each day when I can, and at a week+ of questing, still have not accumulated 1500. I am close to having completed the Reclaiming the Hoard twice, and still haven't been able to turn in Rewards for the Hoard (for the Linu's Favor) once. Be serious.

There's just no way short of unrealistically good luck in pugs or investing what may likely turn into literally entire seasons' worth (if not a year or more) of time to garner 80 Linu's Favor.

So we ask again, can we please have a repeatable daily for a guaranteed Linu's Favor? Then at least it just turns into a tedious grind (hey, sort of like Icewind Dale!) instead of a pipe dream.
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  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    We shouldnt have to join channels to to do daily content but as it stands now and for mod 6 this is how it is
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  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    If you have a good gs you can get invited to a channel and they will anounce zerg timers
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  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    Ok there are channels that set timmers to enter tiamat say at 1 min before start this alows them to get close to 25 people of the same or near to same gs in at the same time
    i do not know if there is a 17k gs channel but i do know of a 19k and 20k channel
    also i am a 20k gs cw
  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    Once in these channels i have a 90% sucsuess rate in tiamat
  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It's simple. Because you can't enter as a group. People have taken it upon themselves to get around that limitation by entering the instance at specific times. The hope being if people queue up at exactly the same moment they are more likely to end up in the same instance. This is the timer people are talking about. When the horn sounds a countdown clock is started. The goal is to enter when the clock counts down to the time everyone has agreed on. Those times are often kept private to limit others poping in uninvited. This is the reason why private channels to discuss this are valuable.
  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt wrote: »
    Just came back to the game after a break in preparation for Elemental Evil, and started doing the Well of Dragons quests in earnest...specifically, trying to get the 6th and 7th Boons points. Accumulating the required Dragon Coins, Cult Secrets, AD's, gold, no problem. Can even just buy the Books at Auction if need be. But seriously, Cryptic, 30 and then another 50 Linu's Favor?!? Who are we kidding here?

    I apparently got EXTREMELY lucky my first time into Tiamat's Temple, the pug I was with won, and I got my 1st Linu's Favor....now, multiple days worth of quests and multiple ventures back into the Temple later, I now have a total of....1.

    Because every pug since that first has been a giant boatload of fail, and it doesn't matter how good you are..I regularly place 1st or 2nd in the standings...it has to be a group effort and success...

    And 1500 Hoard points for one Linu's? Really? I invest a few hours each day when I can, and at a week+ of questing, still have not accumulated 1500. I am close to having completed the Reclaiming the Hoard twice, and still haven't been able to turn in Rewards for the Hoard (for the Linu's Favor) once. Be serious.

    There's just no way short of unrealistically good luck in pugs or investing what may likely turn into literally entire seasons' worth (if not a year or more) of time to garner 80 Linu's Favor.

    So we ask again, can we please have a repeatable daily for a guaranteed Linu's Favor? Then at least it just turns into a tedious grind (hey, sort of like Icewind Dale!) instead of a pipe dream.

    It does suck that pugs have such a huge failure rate. Sometimes it's nice to just log in and go without having to try and synch up with a bunch of others in exclusive channels in order to put the odds in your favor
    I just don't bother with Tiamat for the most part. The thought of running the same dungeon over and over makes me ill.
  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    learch123 wrote: »
    If you have a good gs you can get invited to a channel and they will anounce zerg timers

    EVEN IF you don't have a "good gs" (which will be changed in name for mod 6) you can usually find a good run around the 1 minute mark.

    It's not impossible to get 80 Linus. Keep donating Coins, but keep a reserve of 100 until all boons/ items claimed.

    To maximize chances of rewards make sure your Eleminster weekly is ready to turn in on Mondays, and try to get to the first run after maintenance on Thursdays. Second run on Thursday usually isn't so bad either.

    "Zerg Timers" - The supposed time announced when to run in like a lemming squad of Leroy Jenkins (at majority 18k+ GS players) for a "more than likely assured win".
    " I tried to figure out the enigma that was you, and then I realized mastering Wild Magic was easier." - Old Wizard in Waterdeep

    "Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."

    "Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
  • empalasempalas Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 804 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    My guess is that tiamat will need to be nerfed in the future as there won't be enough people with high enough dps to do it and get a win...or add an alternative to it. even grinding them all out it was a massive time expenditure to get all the linus for the boons. But it was something to do and finish.
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  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    While I love Legit for most things do not use their timers. They change them maybe every couple of weeks for *reasons*. Hunt around and meet people. You can find timers that work and chanels that use them. Just takes time....
  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt wrote: »
    20k gs cw? Ok, sorry, that's bs. Unless they decided to make the new artifact equipment all super high additions to gear score or something. Like i said, i have all corrupted black ice armor and weapons, gemmed exquisite shirt/pants, the hrimnir three-piece set, a loaded bi ioun with all rank 10 runestones & enchants (with an eldritch in defense for 'double' augmentation), perfect frost, perfect vorpal, 3 level 86-89 artifacts, a rank 36 artifact owlbear leather belt, all maxed out level 30 pets, all rank 9's and 10's in my enchants (mostly 10's), every boon line in every campaign maxed out (except the last 2 'extra' points in tod boons that i'm trying to get), power 8k before any buffs, ap 24.6%, crit 38.6% with a +147.2% severity, int 25/wis 18/cha 22 before campfire bonus, the list goes on. I regularly dominate dps rankings in skirmishes, and in most group content i do, so you're either lying (i have no reason to think you are) or the gs mechanic is even more broken and worthless than i already thought.

    rofl yes i do have 20k gs and yes there is a ton of new gear out there and alos i have seen 24k gs cws out there
  • theastromachinetheastromachine Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt seriously man, you're here asking for help, you could at least be polite to the people trying to answer your questions.
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  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I gave up on the 7th boon, not because of Linus but because of books.
  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    Wow realy forget i helped you wont do that again
  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It would seem, that the OPs problem has been made obvious, by thier own responses.
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  • theastromachinetheastromachine Member Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt wrote: »
    Go back to my OP. I wasn't asking for help. I was asking Cryptic to fix the **** mechanic for gaining Linu's Favors. Thanks anyway.

    Your questions so far:
    prettycelt wrote:
    ....What does that even mean...?I don't bother with joining a group, because what difference does it make? Wtf do you mean 'legit channel'? What timers are you talking about?

    People are just trying to answer the questions you asked them, you don't have to be rude about it.
  • mh0rammh0ram Member Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    23K CW alt, it's pretty easy man. I'll go ahead and feed you, you ****ing troll.
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  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    There is no GS requirement for Tia.
  • digoliftdigolift Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt have mental problems =/
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  • learch123learch123 Member Posts: 514 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    prettycelt wrote: »
    i've seen people lie about their gs's before to try and weasel their way into an instance, and i trust most people exactly not at all. If there are cw's out there with such absurdly high gs, then it is because they blew wads of cash to advance their artifacts all to level 100. Sorry but a game (especially this one) simply isn't worth it. It bespeaks a sorry-HAMSTER lack of creativity and talent on the part of the devs to even expect players to do that in order to 'qualify' for end content.

    first of all i havent spent a dime on this game but i do know how to build a toon 20k gs now adays is easy i have 2 legendary articfacts 1 epic main hand is legandary off hand is epic artifact belt and neck are both epic best compainion i have is blue and im in all rank 7 enchants
    so im no where near done and im at 20k gs
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