Most new-ish people and those who don't spend money still need a well-balanced group to complete the most difficult content in this game. Changing lifesteal and regen affects a small percentage of people in a positive way. Mostly, healers and the new class Paladins who don't even exist yet.
For eveyone else, it forces us to want to make our characters stronger. Rather than making new, fun content, this game is making us feel inadequate, which then will make us want to spend money OR spend all of our time playing only this game. Smart from the game standpoint. Feels manipulative and greedy from the player standpoint.
I have heard MANY great ways this game could improve. None of those ways have come close to being implemented. The reason? The suggestions people who play the game come up with are based on balance and FUN. Changes we actually see are clearly not in line with the player desires.
I was thinking maybe they were not selling very many full heal potions, so they took away regen and nerfed lifesteal to force us to use potions every fight. The only heal potions that are any good are the full heal versions. With a character at 40K health the pots that give you 9K heal isnt good enough.
It's quite bold to have chosen to dramatically increase the damage we receive and at the same time remove a big chunk of our self-healing ability. Making just one of these changes might have been wiser.
All of these types of games thrive on providing lots of fairly easy stuff to do. Stuff where you *mostly* get away with minor errors and misjudgements, where you *mostly* get away with sub-optimal builds and where you will typically only wipe if you accidentally aggro more than one mob or if you blunder into an HE (I'm talking about non-dungeon stuff here).
If the dailies and normal stuff become too difficult, it will drive away many of the casual players. If I find I constantly need a healer alongside me (companion or player) it will make it less fun. I only play for fun and it's not much fun to be struggling to survive in every single fight and to be burning up potions faster than you can earn them.
Casual players are the backbone of the game. They may not spend much real money but they keep the game populated and alive. So I'm waiting to see how mod 6 feels when it eventually hits live.
So those who've played preview, or even just to think about in general, the question becomes what is a worth-while investment for defensive bonuses?
It should be feasible for every char to get 75-100k HP or so with new sets. So what will everyone be putting in their defensive slots? Surely an extra 750 - 1.2k HP (in mod 6) is a mundane boost to survivability. Is pushing your HP from 100k to 110k really going to be worth it? Sounds like not.
So what then, more Life Steal? Should we work in deflect?
And as somebody already said, stats work individually for different classes. I'm thinking we're going to need new guides to survivability in every class forum.
as it stand right now most classes will have a tuff time of it in mod 6 the bis toons out there will be ok for most of the content but anyone with a gs of less than 15k now will be hurting bad in mod 6 i really hope the devs do somthing here to help the average toons like lower the defencive curve as it is now its to steep for newer players
So those who've played preview, or even just to think about in general, the question becomes what is a worth-while investment for defensive bonuses?
So what then, more Life Steal? Should we work in deflect?
Currently on preview, for HR level 70 gear shown in the collections journal, each piece of gear is pushed towards the defense stat. They completely took out deflection for HR(!?) and forcing us to stack defense. The only piece I saw that had deflection was a belt.
Feels like it's HP and defense being shoved down our throats. I wouldn't say LS is obsolete, as endless consumption can be huge when it works, but it's something you can't bank on either.
magnusolamMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 82
edited March 2015
The obvious answer is to keep things as they are for players who are soloing and switch to the new 'healer required' method for players when they group up (so groups need a healing character or characters, but solo players don't).
Currently on preview, for HR level 70 gear shown in the collections journal, each piece of gear is pushed towards the defense stat. They completely took out deflection for HR(!?) and forcing us to stack defense. The only piece I saw that had deflection was a belt.
Feels like it's HP and defense being shoved down our throats. I wouldn't say LS is obsolete, as endless consumption can be huge when it works, but it's something you can't bank on either.
I'm one of those unusual HR's who already stacks defense and regen to Hades and gone instead of lifesteal. Now that regen will be useless in combat (and I don't care WHAT the devs say, it WILL), I've been planning to chase the defense stat to the absolute maximum.
And then, of course, in mod 7 they'll stir the pot some more to make us ****-can our stat setup all over again.
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For eveyone else, it forces us to want to make our characters stronger. Rather than making new, fun content, this game is making us feel inadequate, which then will make us want to spend money OR spend all of our time playing only this game. Smart from the game standpoint. Feels manipulative and greedy from the player standpoint.
I have heard MANY great ways this game could improve. None of those ways have come close to being implemented. The reason? The suggestions people who play the game come up with are based on balance and FUN. Changes we actually see are clearly not in line with the player desires.
All of these types of games thrive on providing lots of fairly easy stuff to do. Stuff where you *mostly* get away with minor errors and misjudgements, where you *mostly* get away with sub-optimal builds and where you will typically only wipe if you accidentally aggro more than one mob or if you blunder into an HE (I'm talking about non-dungeon stuff here).
If the dailies and normal stuff become too difficult, it will drive away many of the casual players. If I find I constantly need a healer alongside me (companion or player) it will make it less fun. I only play for fun and it's not much fun to be struggling to survive in every single fight and to be burning up potions faster than you can earn them.
Casual players are the backbone of the game. They may not spend much real money but they keep the game populated and alive. So I'm waiting to see how mod 6 feels when it eventually hits live.
It should be feasible for every char to get 75-100k HP or so with new sets. So what will everyone be putting in their defensive slots? Surely an extra 750 - 1.2k HP (in mod 6) is a mundane boost to survivability. Is pushing your HP from 100k to 110k really going to be worth it? Sounds like not.
So what then, more Life Steal? Should we work in deflect?
And as somebody already said, stats work individually for different classes. I'm thinking we're going to need new guides to survivability in every class forum.
Currently on preview, for HR level 70 gear shown in the collections journal, each piece of gear is pushed towards the defense stat. They completely took out deflection for HR(!?) and forcing us to stack defense. The only piece I saw that had deflection was a belt.
Feels like it's HP and defense being shoved down our throats. I wouldn't say LS is obsolete, as endless consumption can be huge when it works, but it's something you can't bank on either.
I'm one of those unusual HR's who already stacks defense and regen to Hades and gone instead of lifesteal. Now that regen will be useless in combat (and I don't care WHAT the devs say, it WILL), I've been planning to chase the defense stat to the absolute maximum.
And then, of course, in mod 7 they'll stir the pot some more to make us ****-can our stat setup all over again.
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