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Suggestion: End of RNG in Mod 6
jazzfong
Member Posts: 1,079 Arc User
As title suggests, i would like to see an alternate way to obtain some items aside from getting lucky a few times in a row to get an item. Personally i have a very bad RNG rating and i hope there are some improvements on these items 2 to 3 modules ago. Some examples are:
1. Eye of Lathandar (Extremely rare)
- Give an option to buy it at store with 1000 thayan scrolls.
And/Or
- BoA at rank 1 (green) without any refining points in it. Once refined, turns BoP.
2. Black Ice Gauntlets + Weapon (Rare)
- Player receive a token when achieving great success. Each piece costs 50 tokens.
3. Artifacts with low drops (Rare)
- Emblem, Shard, etc
- Trading using 1000 Seals
Thats all from me. Any more idea??
1. Eye of Lathandar (Extremely rare)
- Give an option to buy it at store with 1000 thayan scrolls.
And/Or
- BoA at rank 1 (green) without any refining points in it. Once refined, turns BoP.
2. Black Ice Gauntlets + Weapon (Rare)
- Player receive a token when achieving great success. Each piece costs 50 tokens.
3. Artifacts with low drops (Rare)
- Emblem, Shard, etc
- Trading using 1000 Seals
Thats all from me. Any more idea??
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Someone can win a lottery at first try, but more people buy for years and never win once.
Who cares if its possible? Why even bring up this strawman argument? Its a bad system. It is also possible to win the lottery.
There are always these weird people giving irrelevant information where they see an oppurtunity.
ICEWIND CAMPAIGN :
It started out in the first two weeks of Icewind Campaign that the drop rate was ridiculously high on all items. You'd get a purple item about every other Epic Heroic Encounter. Elk Tribe items were spewing forth, and Hammerstone too. People complained about the high drop rate as it wasn't "class specific", "a bunch of junk I cannot salvage for AD", and "makes the items nothing special to get".
Now, conversely it's harder to get said items which addresses the above complaints, but creates it's own in how much effort it can be to get the Epic Heroic loot items. Making it "purchaseable" somehow puts it in the category of "why bother with the encounters if I can just buy it?".
A possible solution is making it so any Epic Heroic in Icewind Pass can drop the items specific to that area (Elk, gloves, etc), and then the same for Dwarven Valley (Hammerstone Gear, etc) so whilst the chances are increased for a drop it's not made so easy it's meaningless to travel the areas.
If you suggest items should be loot in the end chest of Kessel's retreat then that loot table for that skirmish chest should have a random chance of any epic item from the Icewind Campaign so again it's not assured you get what you want, but there's an increased chance.
DREAD RING, SHARANDAR, AND ICEWIND :
Well, include any campaign here. You can get Illyabruen Gear once you run enough Malabog's Castle for Dark Fey Seals. You can accumulate tons of Thayan Scrolls.
Being able to convert lesser Campaign Currency into something greater to be able to purchase items that can come from that campaign specifically would make more use of everything, whilst not making it too easy to get any Epic Item.
Examples of Conversions could be -
25 Feywild Spark = 1 Dark Fey Seal
1000 Thayan Scrolls = 1 Epic Rank Mark (excludes Potency)
500 Kessel's Sigil = Bag of Refined Black Ice that contains 500 Pieces of Refined Black Ice
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For IWD :
Make a special token on each HE with a certain amount of gain per succes/difficulties (like 1 for easy one not great succes and 2 for grest succes, 2 for middle one and 4 for great succes, 3 minimum on big HE and 10 for great succes, 2 for kessel ... Something like that) and a new merchant who sell the low drops rate items for 10K of this tokens (well a big price), then you should still try to get them the normal way but if you still haven't get them after a long time, you'll be able to buy them (BoP)
Well the thing is they made a promo with buying a pack and you gain an black ice item (i've got my gauntlet like this)
For Sharandar :
Well pretty much the same thing but for each sharandar related content, new token and high price marchant (Well i never really tryed to drop sharandar content so don't know exactly what can be wanted here ...)
For DR :
Each gauntlet (blue quality minimum) used in mini dungeon give a token and for 500 token (or more) you can buy the artifact, a normal player should still play a LONG time before having it so it won't be that more problematic ...
There is multiples solutions ... but most wont give them money so i don't think they will make them ...
I hated IWD drops. Same was for artifact gear later. It was a grind. Stupid grind where each try is just a "hope" to get item.
RND can stay but changed. Yet it has to become progressive - more you try, more chance you have. +& to fisrt try. Yes it is more work to do.
Otherwise it is crazy stupid and crappy mechanic where no matter how much efforts you put, RND god will not notice. I have 0 desire to play grind fest. Already skipped mod 5 cause I was too tiered to see useless efforts.
For about 3 days they ran a promo where when buying a black ice profession pack from the zen store you got a BOP box that contained one piece of your choice of (also BOP) equipment (all 6 pieces of corrupt and all 6 pieces of purified were represented in this).
WHYYYYYYY was this just a promo? Bring this back as a PERMANENT solution, even if you raised the price of this by 500 zen or so to reflect the change, 80% of the population would gladly pay rather than farming a month and a half or whatever it took in Icewind Pass just to get a pair of gloves....AND its MORE ZEN sales, AND it require NO WORK on the devs part......IT ALREADY EXISTS.
This doesn't address the rest of the poor RNG drops for other items but this one seems like a no-brainer solution to at least a small portion of the problem.
Example: GWF 4 black ice gloves. DC 4 dragon gem drops in 3 DD events(same day). TR 5 drops of artifact belts on same day. I mean it seems ridiculous, but could be character creation date, time played or character creation id that goes into RNG calculations that messes up stuff.
I know you can buy zen with AD, but the idea of putting BiS gear in the cash shop is just horrifying to me as a general idea.
I love the ideas in the OP post though. These solutions are already in place for some other things, just apply it across the board. You can get your draconic gear as a drop or you can buy it with tokens for example. That's a great model that should be applied to pretty much everything I would say.
You are mixing up difficulty with luck. It's not hard, it's trivial to do, just that many many folks have been doing the lair for 6+ months and have yet to see it drop. So for me it's impossible. It's not like you can keep doing the lair over and over. It's one chance per day. If you don't get it that way, there is NO other way to get it.
Selling gear is wrong. No argument can be made for this.
Gear in ZEN store = bad idea on several levels.
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