How do people get orange artifact gear without spending ridiculous amounts of money? My highest level artifact item is level 27 (blue) and its taken me forever to get that high.
At level 27, I believe it takes 25k refinement points to level.
I play once a day to do my daily quests and I get about a bag full of items to refine every day. If I'm lucky I get a few Ks worth of refinement per day. But first I have to identify these items and it takes a lot of identify scrolls.
Most of the people I inspect in well of dragons have orange artifact gear.
How is that possible?
I bought a blood ruby pack once before but they are expensive at $20.
Even if I were to buy a blood ruby pack it would only give me 50K x 3. At 25k per level, that only 6 levels worth. Not even enough to reach my next upgrade rank.
I don't even want to think how much more refinement points per level is required to reach level 100 (orange).
Do people seriously spend thousand of dollars to get all orange artifacts?
It was possible to farm refining items with the Dragon Hoard enchantment a while ago. They had it stored after farming by themselves, or bought it when it was cheap in the AH.
Now it's not possible to effectively farm with said enchantments anymore.
It was possible to farm refining items with the Dragon Hoard enchantment a while ago. They had it stored after farming by themselves, or bought it when it was cheap in the AH.
Now it's not possible to effectively farm with said enchantments anymore.
Agreed it's a pain now. I wish I hadn't taken a large chunk of mod 4 off of the game. The nerf to farming with the hoard enchants is just awful.
There was a time when PVE was farmable. Dungeon delve chest wasn't bind on pickup. This game had a bigger playerbase and so the prices were able to hold up. Castle Never also dropped valuable BOE ancient weapons that would sell for a 1mil AD+. You could endlessly farm it the whole day. Sounds amazing right?
Lots of farming with Dragon Hoard Enchatments. Or they had them for a while.
I personally doubt it. There's been one person that has said that he'd managed to farm 1 legendary. While a nice achievement, in the time he managed to get that one done, there's 3 more to rank up and won't be able to catch up to others at the top end while new gear may still be released. For example, there was just gear to catch up to which wasn't so bad, rnak 10s gave some advantage as well as perfect enchantment, then artifacts came that widened the gap, now artifact equipment furthering the gap, in future there could be more artifact equipment, a whole new type of gear to rank up, or superior artifact gear that sort of wasted that whole effort. All at a much faster rate than farming. I always mentioned that the refining system was user unfriendly which encouraged botting.
The real reason is:
1) Lesser res stones used to be a LOT cheaper
2) 2x rp events make it twice as easy
3) you can just by your way, illegitimately or officially. Yes people do do this. Unofficially is a very attractive option since officially costs WAY too much. I managed to do it without resorting to it, but I wouldn't say it was really feasible now.
Dragon hoard enchantments do help, but don't really expect more than epic.
Well, the smart ppl bought all the RP items they could afford from AH before the drops got bound and before hoard enchants gained a 2 or 3 min cooldown in foundry.. Some things are worth 15+ times more than they were before the change. I myself made a fortune selling them later and fully gearing my char up and still had a surplus left to make my artifact gear orange on x2 rp events. Artifacts are still purple and have a long way to go but idc :P
basically - i got them all the way to epic by farming only, in mod 5. Probably the best course of action right now is farming with alts in professions, hunting for artifacts in Tiamat or wherever else they drop, sell them - get ad, stack up on refinement from ah- hope you got enough inventory space in your alts for all those refinement items - wait for double rp event - get your artifacts up/sell the rp items for profit -> duble the ammount of rp items wait for next rp event.
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try listening to audiobooks, at least you get something from doing braindead task for 100+ hours
i farmed my weapon in mod 4 when it was easier, also at one point in mod4 stack of peridots was 10k instead of some 100k+ but they just had to ruin artifacts for ppl who dont want to play 12 hours a day
-It is rly important to find a good place to farm, i find iwd to be one of this places since sigils translates also in rp and can be stashed.
-It is also important that you have a good % drop chance. 10% means you;ll get 1 drop at every 30 sec/ per 10 mobs average on a regular map, less % does add a lot more time since you;ll have to find packs with more than 10 mobs.
-Use green/blue items, they do add plenty of rp (while dragon hoards are on cd use the time to identify items or run to the next pack of mobs)
-each stack of identifying scrolls means somewhere between 10k and 60k rp so try to use them wisely. If you use blue items of the same time you only need 9 scroll stacks to get to purple upgrade.
-you also need to wait for a double weekend to use you're stones as they double in value, so i suggest you get your items at purple level by feeding other items to them and keep the stones/gems for double weekend for legendary upgrade.
Buy dragon hoard enchantments to start off. You don't need more than one or two since there's a cooldown.
Basically, you sit there for hours upon hours farming mobs in foundry or anywhere you want.
It'll take well over 100 hours of literally sitting there clicking the same buttons over and over go.
Buy dragon hoard enchantments to start off. You don't need more than one or two since there's a cooldown.
Basically, you sit there for hours upon hours farming mobs in foundry or anywhere you want.
It'll take well over 100 hours of literally sitting there clicking the same buttons over and over go.
Unless you want to p2w, and then it's about $200 per legendary.
I play once a day to do my daily quests and I get about a bag full of items to refine every day. If I'm lucky I get a few Ks worth of refinement per day. But first I have to identify these items and it takes a lot of identify scrolls.
Most of the people I inspect in well of dragons have orange artifact gear.
How is that possible?
You play once a day for how many hours? and when did you started in this game? I think your answer to these 2 questions should answer your original question.
A lot of people have been playing since beta, or earlier modules, where making AD by farming dungeons, investing, or leadership overtime. Then they buy the RP when they were cheap. There has also been 3 double RP weekends (that I remember). So if they have stocked up previously, it'd have cost them half the amount.
If you're only starting to refine your items now, then it's unfortunate since getting even 1 item to legendary will be close to impossible to do unless you're willing to spend a lot of money.
So in the future, look out for any double RP events, and buy any cheap RP you can afford way before everyone else does.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
in the past it was possible
they made changes in mod 5 that made it take lot of time
* now RP from dragon hoard are not tradable
* there are more artifact equipment's, so demand for RP is much higher
* almost anyone can join tiamat and after 15 runs he can make artifact equipment's, in the past you need to finish the dragon campaign to craft one, this add to the demand as well
* artifact belts are very cheap now due to high drop rate, again anyone with 10K AD can get belt and after he needs RP
they did introduce artifact RP drop at tiamat + blue belts, off hand and neck at the encounters in well of dragons
but so far the demand is bigger, if you rely only on drop and farming. even making purple will take you months
I got 2 dragon hoard and in good day I get ~5000 RP (about 2 hours of playing)
Lol it is even better to farm tiamat, that way you can get 5k RP if you win 2 rounds, not to talk about the other rewards, dragon egg and bags worth a lot of AD which you can spend on RP...
And after each round u have 25 mins till heralds to farm mobs, then get 5-8 herald which each gives u a level 4 enchant.
Lol it is even better to farm tiamat, that way you can get 5k RP if you win 2 rounds, not to talk about the other rewards, dragon egg and bags worth a lot of AD which you can spend on RP...
And after each round u have 25 mins till heralds to farm mobs, then get 5-8 herald which each gives u a level 4 enchant.
Except you might not get even a res stone, or if you do you can get a minor res stone. A quick tiamat run can take 15 min, a bad one can get to 25 mins. Or you can farm from mobs manually elsewhere (which still isn't enough).eggs and bags are nice IF you get them, but they're still rare drops so on the whole it's not that rewarding. Since you only get drops from the finishing blow, it's more rp efficient to just farm them.
Except you might not get even a res stone, or if you do you can get a minor res stone. A quick tiamat run can take 15 min, a bad one can get to 25 mins. Or you can farm from mobs manually elsewhere (which still isn't enough).eggs and bags are nice IF you get them, but they're still rare drops so on the whole it's not that rewarding. Since you only get drops from the finishing blow, it's more rp efficient to just farm them.
Honestly even with the farming nerf you can get more than 5k rp in an hour farming the foundry. I went and tested it out last night after reading this thread.
Honestly even with the farming nerf you can get more than 5k rp in an hour farming the foundry. I went and tested it out last night after reading this thread.
srry for not being exact
I try to do 2 tiamant + 2 dragon framing at xx:45
= 1000-5000 RP + 6 objects worth of 3600 RP --> at best, there are days I get nada
and the dragon hoard gives me around 5000 RP doing the daily tasks
I didn't try farming the foundry (but with the time it will take me to finish the campaigns, not sure I will try)
Honestly even with the farming nerf you can get more than 5k rp in an hour farming the foundry. I went and tested it out last night after reading this thread.
I should hope so, 5k rp an hour would be 39 days none stop for a single artifact :P. Kind of encourages you to bot it considering the lack of a real sustainable source. Plus the refining is all manual anyway. Not done it myself, but know some that have. I know you'd get more when botting or not, but we don't exactly play 24 hours a day. Had it been some form of automatic refining it wouldn't be so bad, but when people just buy it out and the costs are high, well, it's not exactly a fair and user friendly system.
when i started in mod 4 pack of 99 lesser resonanz stone were sold for 13k in AH -->50.000 rp
now its 130k AD...bop
lots of ppl bought these stacks in AH and made things legendary, lots of farmer earned money ingame by selling them for sure
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Now it's not possible to effectively farm with said enchantments anymore.
Agreed it's a pain now. I wish I hadn't taken a large chunk of mod 4 off of the game. The nerf to farming with the hoard enchants is just awful.
I personally doubt it. There's been one person that has said that he'd managed to farm 1 legendary. While a nice achievement, in the time he managed to get that one done, there's 3 more to rank up and won't be able to catch up to others at the top end while new gear may still be released. For example, there was just gear to catch up to which wasn't so bad, rnak 10s gave some advantage as well as perfect enchantment, then artifacts came that widened the gap, now artifact equipment furthering the gap, in future there could be more artifact equipment, a whole new type of gear to rank up, or superior artifact gear that sort of wasted that whole effort. All at a much faster rate than farming. I always mentioned that the refining system was user unfriendly which encouraged botting.
The real reason is:
1) Lesser res stones used to be a LOT cheaper
2) 2x rp events make it twice as easy
3) you can just by your way, illegitimately or officially. Yes people do do this. Unofficially is a very attractive option since officially costs WAY too much. I managed to do it without resorting to it, but I wouldn't say it was really feasible now.
Dragon hoard enchantments do help, but don't really expect more than epic.
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i farmed my weapon in mod 4 when it was easier, also at one point in mod4 stack of peridots was 10k instead of some 100k+ but they just had to ruin artifacts for ppl who dont want to play 12 hours a day
-It is also important that you have a good % drop chance. 10% means you;ll get 1 drop at every 30 sec/ per 10 mobs average on a regular map, less % does add a lot more time since you;ll have to find packs with more than 10 mobs.
-Use green/blue items, they do add plenty of rp (while dragon hoards are on cd use the time to identify items or run to the next pack of mobs)
-each stack of identifying scrolls means somewhere between 10k and 60k rp so try to use them wisely. If you use blue items of the same time you only need 9 scroll stacks to get to purple upgrade.
-you also need to wait for a double weekend to use you're stones as they double in value, so i suggest you get your items at purple level by feeding other items to them and keep the stones/gems for double weekend for legendary upgrade.
Basically, you sit there for hours upon hours farming mobs in foundry or anywhere you want.
It'll take well over 100 hours of literally sitting there clicking the same buttons over and over go.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
does that even work now that they nerfed it?
The cooldown is only in foundry. It's the same 20/30s anywhere else.
You play once a day for how many hours? and when did you started in this game? I think your answer to these 2 questions should answer your original question.
A lot of people have been playing since beta, or earlier modules, where making AD by farming dungeons, investing, or leadership overtime. Then they buy the RP when they were cheap. There has also been 3 double RP weekends (that I remember). So if they have stocked up previously, it'd have cost them half the amount.
If you're only starting to refine your items now, then it's unfortunate since getting even 1 item to legendary will be close to impossible to do unless you're willing to spend a lot of money.
So in the future, look out for any double RP events, and buy any cheap RP you can afford way before everyone else does.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
they made changes in mod 5 that made it take lot of time
* now RP from dragon hoard are not tradable
* there are more artifact equipment's, so demand for RP is much higher
* almost anyone can join tiamat and after 15 runs he can make artifact equipment's, in the past you need to finish the dragon campaign to craft one, this add to the demand as well
* artifact belts are very cheap now due to high drop rate, again anyone with 10K AD can get belt and after he needs RP
they did introduce artifact RP drop at tiamat + blue belts, off hand and neck at the encounters in well of dragons
but so far the demand is bigger, if you rely only on drop and farming. even making purple will take you months
I got 2 dragon hoard and in good day I get ~5000 RP (about 2 hours of playing)
And after each round u have 25 mins till heralds to farm mobs, then get 5-8 herald which each gives u a level 4 enchant.
Except you might not get even a res stone, or if you do you can get a minor res stone. A quick tiamat run can take 15 min, a bad one can get to 25 mins. Or you can farm from mobs manually elsewhere (which still isn't enough).eggs and bags are nice IF you get them, but they're still rare drops so on the whole it's not that rewarding. Since you only get drops from the finishing blow, it's more rp efficient to just farm them.
Honestly even with the farming nerf you can get more than 5k rp in an hour farming the foundry. I went and tested it out last night after reading this thread.
srry for not being exact
I try to do 2 tiamant + 2 dragon framing at xx:45
= 1000-5000 RP + 6 objects worth of 3600 RP --> at best, there are days I get nada
and the dragon hoard gives me around 5000 RP doing the daily tasks
I didn't try farming the foundry (but with the time it will take me to finish the campaigns, not sure I will try)
I should hope so, 5k rp an hour would be 39 days none stop for a single artifact :P. Kind of encourages you to bot it considering the lack of a real sustainable source. Plus the refining is all manual anyway. Not done it myself, but know some that have. I know you'd get more when botting or not, but we don't exactly play 24 hours a day. Had it been some form of automatic refining it wouldn't be so bad, but when people just buy it out and the costs are high, well, it's not exactly a fair and user friendly system.
now its 130k AD...bop
lots of ppl bought these stacks in AH and made things legendary, lots of farmer earned money ingame by selling them for sure
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression