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crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
edited December 2014 in The Thieves' Den
Ladies and gentleman, pugs and premade players, all neverwinter habitants, the time has come to reveal new TR role we kept hiding from you. The day that we will see new shining TR role in pvp...


According to crucial majority of players TR role was misplaced so far in this module 5. We were unaware of your brave effort to click those aoe powers, which was not rewarded enough, because it not always made TR harmless. It took us some time to make sure our surprise for you will be properly served. WE do realize about the fact that TR was not expected by community to have leading role in pvp as GWF in mod 2 and 3 or HR and CW in mod 4. We were aware of your expectations towards reducing TR role in pvp to minimum, which was not maintained from mod 4.

We are delighted to announce new metamorphosis of old TR. We are proud to introduce you TC, which would be Trickster Clown. His name might look inconspicuous but it is work of art. We combined expected harmless of this class and his soul-stealth. WE preserved old stealth based class and yet adjusted it towards balance for rest of the classes. This brand new reworked Trickster is able to perform dance in front of our eyes, he can run around us on the node for our entertainment. If you get bored of him you can easily remove him from node by aoes which were provided by each class. If he will show any resistance then our new mechanism will provide you possibility to get rid of him once and for all. Now all you have to do to terminate those defiant Tricksters is to wait until they reveal themselves as they are supposed to, then control, stun them whenever they attack you and make sure they run away with so low hp that they won't get idea to disturb you by attacks any more. That is all you have to do to terminate these individuals and enjoy your pvp experience in which occurrence of this class is properly limited.


We hope that all of you, starting from 10 k gs CW and finishing on 22 k gs HR will be satisfied with this new metamorphosis of TR. We are happy that you will now always hit these individuals with your undodgeable icy rays We are sure brave GWF's will get TC victims close to them and deal with them. WE are also happy that any other class who will be engaged by vicious Trickster will deal with them.

We hope you will enjoy pvp when these long awaited changes will come into live server:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?810191-Rise-of-Tiamat-Preview-Patch-Notes-NW-35-20141208a-1&p=9669381&viewfull=1#post9669381

Wish you all the best watching performance of always ready to dance TC and continue enjoying pvp! :)
Don't forget to share your oppinions about long awaited rework of Tricksters :D
Tairev-TR(All kind of killing tools)
Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
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Comments

  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hehehe sad but true
    triple dip nerf :
    1.stealth
    2. all dmg from stealth
    3.daily powers
    nothing left but to play clown and run circles
  • xplmao2xplmao2 Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 232 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    hehehe sad but true
    triple dip nerf :
    1.stealth
    2. all dmg from stealth
    3.daily powers
    nothing left but to play clown and run circles

    TR is still OP even with this 2-second reveal.

    Didn't change ****.
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    hehehe sad but true
    triple dip nerf :
    1.stealth
    2. all dmg from stealth
    3.daily powers
    nothing left but to play clown and run circles

    cat nub TR, confirmed.
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    hehehe sad but true
    triple dip nerf :
    1.stealth
    2. all dmg from stealth
    3.daily powers
    nothing left but to play clown and run circles

    TR can maintain a role but it becomes a problem when you're investing more than everyone else to sustain a relevant role and when everyone else, with just as much effort, can do so much more than you.
    That was TR's problem in the past. While I don't agree with all of the current changes, I do feel that a DPS nerf,slightly, will help to ease this.
    Because, let's face it, permastealth isn't new. Permastealth and this ridiculous damage output are new. People cry about permastealth because they're used ot a CW doing this damage. CW's don't cloak. We do.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    cat nub TR, confirmed.


    lol
    call me in game
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    mjytresz wrote: »
    TR can maintain a role but it becomes a problem when you're investing more than everyone else to sustain a relevant role and when everyone else, with just as much effort, can do so much more than you.
    That was TR's problem in the past. While I don't agree with all of the current changes, I do feel that a DPS nerf,slightly, will help to ease this.
    Because, let's face it, permastealth isn't new. Permastealth and this ridiculous damage output are new. People cry about permastealth because they're used ot a CW doing this damage. CW's don't cloak. We do.



    there was never a remotly relevant build except perma stealth or very close to it
    so to nerf it again and again buff for 2 weeks then nerf it again is a joke
    of 2 years off nerfs 2 weeks of normal play ( all classes had months, years of opnes . )
  • samothrace22samothrace22 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Says it's already on preview, any feedback so far?
    ────────────────────────────
    SAMOTHRACE
    Trickster Rogue
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  • dersidiusdersidius Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Says it's already on preview, any feedback so far?

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?810321-TR-Change-s-12-12-14

    DERSIDIUS
    ABSLOLUTE 16px-Cross_within_circle_2.svg.png RANK SEVEN
  • chestnut13chestnut13 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    This is so awesome! Now a WK can tag a CW with one measly dagger hit and ... be dead in the next 2 seconds! So cool!

    Once again .... Long live the Master Infiltrator! The only game in town. Thanks devs so much for letting me waste zen and AD on arifacts, etc that benefit a WK .... that are now useless.
  • grac3n77grac3n77 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ladies and gentleman, pugs and premade players, all neverwinter habitants, the time has come to reveal new TR role we kept hiding from you. The day that we will see new shining TR role in pvp...


    According to crucial majority of players TR role was misplaced so far in this module 5. We were unaware of your brave effort to click those aoe powers, which was not rewarded enough, because it not always made TR harmless. It took us some time to make sure our surprise for you will be properly served. WE do realize about the fact that TR was not expected by community to have leading role in pvp as GWF in mod 2 and 3 or HR and CW in mod 4. We were aware of your expectations towards reducing TR role in pvp to minimum, which was not maintained from mod 4.

    We are delighted to announce new metamorphosis of old TR. We are proud to introduce you TC, which would be Trickster Clown. His name might look inconspicuous but it is work of art. We combined expected harmless of this class and his soul-stealth. WE preserved old stealth based class and yet adjusted it towards balance for rest of the classes. This brand new reworked Trickster is able to perform dance in front of our eyes, he can run around us on the node for our entertainment. If you get bored of him you can easily remove him from node by aoes which were provided by each class. If he will show any resistance then our new mechanism will provide you possibility to get rid of him once and for all. Now all you have to do to terminate those defiant Tricksters is to wait until they reveal themselves as they are supposed to, then control, stun them whenever they attack you and make sure they run away with so low hp that they won't get idea to disturb you by attacks any more. That is all you have to do to terminate these individuals and enjoy your pvp experience in which occurrence of this class is properly limited.


    We hope that all of you, starting from 10 k gs CW and finishing on 22 k gs HR will be satisfied with this new metamorphosis of TR. We are happy that you will now always hit these individuals with your undodgeable icy rays We are sure brave GWF's will get TC victims close to them and deal with them. WE are also happy that any other class who will be engaged by vicious Trickster will deal with them.

    We hope you will enjoy pvp when these long awaited changes will come into live server:
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?810191-Rise-of-Tiamat-Preview-Patch-Notes-NW-35-20141208a-1&p=9669381&viewfull=1#post9669381

    Wish you all the best watching performance of always ready to dance TC and continue enjoying pvp! :)
    Don't forget to share your oppinions about long awaited rework of Tricksters :D

    This is a dream come true I almost cry while reading this at last for the first time in history and my 11 years of playing as an assassin in most MMO. An assassin who cannot assassinate your target without the help of other class now I am a peace with my new role as a clown/observer in PVP. +10 to you OP. This a less pressure role no need to spend money for gears and enchant this class don't need it. I hope there's more to it like TC 1.2 version in next coming week.
  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    grac3n77 wrote: »
    This is a dream come true I almost cry while reading this at last for the first time in history and my 11 years of playing as an assassin in most MMO. An assassin who cannot assassinate your target without the help of other class
    TR is not an Assassin class in D&D. It's a combination striker/controller.
    Jenna Sunsoul - Justice Tankadin
    Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
    Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
    Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
    Darquess - Soulbinder
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    TR is not an Assassin class in D&D. It's a combination striker/controller.

    nah, its a combination of bull and sh*t
  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nah, its a combination of bull and sh*t
    Nice try to be clever, but I said in D&D - not NWO.
    Jenna Sunsoul - Justice Tankadin
    Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
    Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
    Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
    Darquess - Soulbinder
  • treecool91treecool91 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    http://dnd4.wikia.com/wiki/Rogue
    Rogue is a STRIKER!!
    He deserve to do more damages compared to other classes!! Maybe AoE Damage has exaggerate, but it's right to see TR dominate PvE rankings (like SW/HR in theory)
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    there was never a remotly relevant build except perma stealth or very close to it

    I wonder how we ever played before permastealth...
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • xanderoathxanderoath Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    sorry for double reply
  • xanderoathxanderoath Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Wish you all the best watching performance of always ready to dance TC and continue enjoying pvp! :)
    Don't forget to share your oppinions about long awaited rework of Tricksters :D

    It seems to be... a little spite... i bet you've been shotted by a lot of TRs today! I'm sorry for that, and I will tell you that you will be shotted another 100 times after this changes...
  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    Looks like Im about to make another insane build for this one.... something other class will hate more... prepare TR haters.
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    mjytresz wrote: »
    I wonder how we ever played before permastealth...

    there was never viable build except stealth ones
    this is mod 1 tr before any nerfs and still is stealth based.
    this build is exact same as mod 2,3,4,5 except new gear.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWkvrCu8xJ0&list=UUYHDJMItDXLB4woc2NXfikQ
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    there was never viable build except stealth ones
    this is mod 1 tr before any nerfs and still is stealth based.
    this build is exact same as mod 2,3,4,5 except new gear.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWkvrCu8xJ0&list=UUYHDJMItDXLB4woc2NXfikQ

    Would anyone else like to relinquish their claims of validity? Or will f2pma share this dishonor alone?
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • nezyrworksnezyrworks Member Posts: 75
    edited December 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    hehehe sad but true
    triple dip nerf :
    1.stealth
    2. all dmg from stealth
    3.daily powers
    nothing left but to play clown and run circles

    Revealed TR just about to die likes it!
  • piejalpiejal Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I disagree TR will still have good standing in PVP
    the different is when this going live TR need to choose their target and timing wisely not just like shoot fish in the barrel
    for defense mekanic TR still got 75% deflc sev and long roll or ITC and for offense still got combat advan bonus and 100% crit change, area stun you cannot saying class that have this is a clown right?
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    mjytresz wrote: »
    Would anyone else like to relinquish their claims of validity? Or will f2pma share this dishonor alone?


    nevermind not worth my time
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited December 2014
    Please use the sticky folks. There's no reason to have multiple threads on this. It does no good for the devs to have multiple topics with feedback all over the place. Look before you post and post in the proper existing threads and forums. Thanks!

    Safe travels,
    Archmage Zebular of Mystryl

    PWE Community Moderator
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