Ofc it is Scourge Warlock (Fury Hellbringer) because of Accursed Diabolist or Fabled Iliyanbruen armor sets.
These two sets have ultimate or better say OP 4 pieces set bonuses which will allow you to make crazy numbers of total dmg not comparable with any other classes.
A Fury TT***** (<- prostitute) will outdps anything with a minimum effort. They got no control though and TT is a lot less useful solo, so they're mediocre on their own. In other words if you wanna push forwards without having to wait for the slowpokes lagging behind, this won't do.
CW is a whole different story. Harder to master and needs better gear than a TT***** (which can pretty much top paingiver with blues) but no need to rely on the team. A swiss army knife.
Best dps class? Still the best is CW - easy to use aoe, plenty of cc, they also can be quite tanky with shield on tab. DC is the new black, but harder to play due to 3 encounter modes, also not very immune against other people's stupidity (example: when you try to use your nicest aoe encounters when someone aggres mobs and makes them run around).
Then we have warlocks - very good dps, but... nothing else, basically. Also it's easy to play this class bad.
And if you don't like caster, you can make a HR - you'd most likely want to make him/her an archer if you go for pve dps.
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schweifer1982Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,662Arc User
edited December 2014
The question is wrong what can beat GWF 18k destroyer dps with 10 k gs .
Answer CW DC TR HR(trapper this rock better then archery)&mybe SW .
So it will give you a better picture cuz y have gwf .
To see what is the best :
So first place :CW renegade ultimate buffer controller debuffer and have nice full heal brutal brust dps.
DC DPS spec can stil heal and debuff& buff and do some controll it rock too.
Second place TR (little controll)can do only dps(no controll no buff nothing only dps) SW also.
Third placeHR good dps little controll.
GWF can do some high brust too but y must forget destoyer and try to reach the immposible 15k base power w/o aow or corrupted and owerload slot. Then you can beat the great guys like CW SW TR DC HR. Its not immpsoble but you need lot -lot -lot -lot lot lot money to do this and you will be nothing in pvp.
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lazaroth666Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,332Arc User
edited December 2014
It's funny how crappy CWs love to talk even more HAMSTER about the SWs when they have been untouched since beta, they just don't like to see any other class above them. How do you recognize a lame CW? They start talking bad about TT but they don't say a single word about storm spell which does 40% +/- of their total damage as passive, yeah a class reaaaally hard to master lol.
It's funny how crappy CWs love to talk even more HAMSTER about the SWs when they have been untouched since beta, they just don't like to see any other class above them. How do you recognize a lame CW? They start talking bad about TT but they don't say a single word about storm spell which does 40% +/- of their total damage as passive, yeah a class reaaaally hard to master lol.
You appear to be grossly uninformed. CW was touched several times, and the reason why storm spell now does 25-35 % of overall damage is because they buffed it in response to nerfing so much else.
It's funny how crappy CWs love to talk even more HAMSTER about the SWs when they have been untouched since beta
Nope, cws have changed a lot since beta. Back then it was all about entangling force, shield and arcane singularity to throw like 20 odd mobs off cliffs. Then it was about big hitters like shard and sudden storm. Now its all about dots and procs and. Control has gone from mob judo basically to stunlock. Its really different.
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lazaroth666Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,332Arc User
Nope, cws have changed a lot since beta. Back then it was all about entangling force, shield and arcane singularity to throw like 20 odd mobs off cliffs. Then it was about big hitters like shard and sudden storm. Now its all about dots and procs and. Control has gone from mob judo basically to stunlock. Its really different.
What I meant is that they have been always in a very good position, not like the GWF being king for a while then useless i.e
You appear to be grossly uninformed. CW was touched several times, and the reason why storm spell now does 25-35 % of overall damage is because they buffed it in response to nerfing so much else.
No, you are wrong, I keep checking with ACT everything and it's still around 40%, touched yes, nerfed no.
Y'all are counting out Archery Stormwardens for some reason. The amount of damage a Stormwarden can lay down for sustained dps is... well maybe I shouldn't say. Nevermind. Carry on.
I vote for CW also i recomend to at least read 1 time chems guide .
If you want easy dps then thau dot machine .
If you want to work for your dps and want to be usefull out of dps too then renegade.
blazious11Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 331Arc User
edited December 2014
You can do nice damage with all of the classes, (except gf) just forget that paingiver list. The 3rd on that list can be still a huge asset to the team.
CW and SW is a nobrainer. But TR is veery good now, and you can do a LOT of damage with archery or even trapper HR, just there are not too many good ones out there, because most play combat pvp hr, or just stupid to build a good HR. DC can be good too.
GWF is still viable, but you should pay a lot for it too catch up with others (highend equipment is needed).
GF is not dps.
But ALL of them are good for pve (you just have to learn to play them) So, please, just choose wahatever you'd like to play, and HAVE FUN.
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You appear to be grossly uninformed. CW was touched several times, and the reason why storm spell now does 25-35 % of overall damage is because they buffed it in response to nerfing so much else.
Which was a mistake in my opinion.
As for the OP don't be mislead. Nothing beats the top end Fury SW in damage.
GWF useless? You must be playing it wrong. Get 14k Power and abuse certain feats. *hint: The 3rd feat in sentinel*.
Dude maybe you love to play with stupid broken feats like Intimidation, the tanking tree doing more AoE dmg than the DPS one which is Destroyer, it's just plain stupid to consider that the class is ok atm. I have SW and GWF fully geared with legendary and everything bla bla bla, you will never do with a GWF what you can do with a SW.
i think all classes can do a good DPS. It depends on your building.
And ppl saying GF cant do dmg, i disagree, i see some GF doing MUCH dmg.
Sorry for bad english but my opinion is GWF, CW, HR. That 3, with a good player, high GS, are the bests.
But if i need to choose one, i choose GWF, Vanguardian patch, Destroyer paragon. Good dmg and good defence. Im gwf, 17k gs, and i can pve very well, tank and do dmg, and very well pvp too, i dont die easy, i can kill easy if i catch the guy lol, thats it i love gwf ahahha
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OFC well played & perfect greaded.
It will always be and remain the uncontested PVE king since Beta.
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Fury SW (Hellbringer) is currently Paingiver if we consider equal gear/skills. CW (Spell Storm) will do most DPS after a Fury SW.
These two sets have ultimate or better say OP 4 pieces set bonuses which will allow you to make crazy numbers of total dmg not comparable with any other classes.
CW and GWF can be more or less equivalent, but for a GWF to match a CW it will need far more skill than a CW requires.
Other classes have little hope in matching them.
CW is a whole different story. Harder to master and needs better gear than a TT***** (which can pretty much top paingiver with blues) but no need to rely on the team. A swiss army knife.
Pugging Domination? TR
Soloing mobs? TR
Logging in? TR
Playing Neverwinter? TR
Having sex? TR
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Then we have warlocks - very good dps, but... nothing else, basically. Also it's easy to play this class bad.
And if you don't like caster, you can make a HR - you'd most likely want to make him/her an archer if you go for pve dps.
Answer CW DC TR HR(trapper this rock better then archery)&mybe SW .
So it will give you a better picture cuz y have gwf .
To see what is the best :
So first place :CW renegade ultimate buffer controller debuffer and have nice full heal brutal brust dps.
DC DPS spec can stil heal and debuff& buff and do some controll it rock too.
Second place TR (little controll)can do only dps(no controll no buff nothing only dps) SW also.
Third placeHR good dps little controll.
GWF can do some high brust too but y must forget destoyer and try to reach the immposible 15k base power w/o aow or corrupted and owerload slot. Then you can beat the great guys like CW SW TR DC HR. Its not immpsoble but you need lot -lot -lot -lot lot lot money to do this and you will be nothing in pvp.
And, boy, that was long overdue! No one wanted the poor TR in dungeons for a year.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
You appear to be grossly uninformed. CW was touched several times, and the reason why storm spell now does 25-35 % of overall damage is because they buffed it in response to nerfing so much else.
Nope, cws have changed a lot since beta. Back then it was all about entangling force, shield and arcane singularity to throw like 20 odd mobs off cliffs. Then it was about big hitters like shard and sudden storm. Now its all about dots and procs and. Control has gone from mob judo basically to stunlock. Its really different.
What I meant is that they have been always in a very good position, not like the GWF being king for a while then useless i.e
No, you are wrong, I keep checking with ACT everything and it's still around 40%, touched yes, nerfed no.
GWF useless? You must be playing it wrong. Get 14k Power and abuse certain feats. *hint: The 3rd feat in sentinel*.
I vote for CW also i recomend to at least read 1 time chems guide .
If you want easy dps then thau dot machine .
If you want to work for your dps and want to be usefull out of dps too then renegade.
CW and SW is a nobrainer. But TR is veery good now, and you can do a LOT of damage with archery or even trapper HR, just there are not too many good ones out there, because most play combat pvp hr, or just stupid to build a good HR. DC can be good too.
GWF is still viable, but you should pay a lot for it too catch up with others (highend equipment is needed).
GF is not dps.
But ALL of them are good for pve (you just have to learn to play them) So, please, just choose wahatever you'd like to play, and HAVE FUN.
Which was a mistake in my opinion.
As for the OP don't be mislead. Nothing beats the top end Fury SW in damage.
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Dude maybe you love to play with stupid broken feats like Intimidation, the tanking tree doing more AoE dmg than the DPS one which is Destroyer, it's just plain stupid to consider that the class is ok atm. I have SW and GWF fully geared with legendary and everything bla bla bla, you will never do with a GWF what you can do with a SW.
large aoe? cw/sw
single target/boss? tr
And ppl saying GF cant do dmg, i disagree, i see some GF doing MUCH dmg.
Sorry for bad english but my opinion is GWF, CW, HR. That 3, with a good player, high GS, are the bests.
But if i need to choose one, i choose GWF, Vanguardian patch, Destroyer paragon. Good dmg and good defence. Im gwf, 17k gs, and i can pve very well, tank and do dmg, and very well pvp too, i dont die easy, i can kill easy if i catch the guy lol, thats it i love gwf ahahha