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Flash Pugsmasher Renegade PvP Build [Mod 5]

isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2015 in The Library
Hello guys,

I was slightly dissapointed on my recent PvE guide, because it was an utter fail. However, it is only fair that I redeem myself with a PvP guide which I specialize in. I noticed that the forum did not have any current up to date CW pvp guides especially one for the most recent mod (5). This guide will be based off of CW Renegade paragon which I call the secret "OP". Please note that this build is not easy to obtain or cheap. This is a very expensive build used for the high tier of PvP.

Now before I begin with the build itself, let me explain a couple things.

1) Use this as a reference not as a step by step book. This build is NOT the best, and should definitely not be copied 100%. You should tweak it and make it more suitable for you, after all you are playing the game , not me. Get creative!
2) I won't link any resource to this guide, as information is a simple Google search away or you can read Chem’s Compendium which should answer most of your questions.
3) This guide is based off of my personal experience, if you disagree with something, just write down what you think is correct below. Please do not troll and give hateful comments. (It is completely useless, and honestly just waste your time)

Now some things about me….

I am primarily known as Flash ingame and on the forums. I have been playing Neverwinter since late of mod 3 and reached around page 20. As of the recent leader board reset, I am currently page 1. My lack of experience is compensated with hours of testing theories and practice.


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Why Renegade?

You buff the team. You have insane healing. You deal tons of burst damage. You survive.

With my build, not only do you do tremendous amounts of damage, but also help your team. Let me explain the PRO’s and CON’s of this build.

Pros
  • Massive Burst damage that can take down most squishies
  • Insane Healing
  • Carry team build
  • Absolute Pug Smasher Build

Cons
  • Rather expensive build (High Tier)
  • Squishy
  • Not the best build for premades
  • If you get focused without protection, you are dead
  • Requires decent skill cap
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Gears

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    The stats shown above are without any companion or potions. Let me explain why I picked the gears above ^

    I went for the 2/2 purified and corrupted set for the maximum power I could achieve. As a benefit I also receive a +150 control bonus AND +150 action point gain. This particular armor combination gives the best stats for my build. I picked the Cloak of Black Ice for the increased action point gain and great stats. You probably question the rings I have chosen for this build. The reason why I use Ring of Pain is for its offensive stats. I feel it being more beneficiary then running the dual pvp rings. (Ring of sinister force & Ring of Dexterous Evasion). Although I will eventually switch both of the rings for the new Personalized ones. My choice in belt was due to the fact that Belt of Black Ice is just awesome. It gives +2 INT and CHA which is just what you need as well as great offensive stats.

    Artifacts

    One very important artifact that you probably notice that I am missing is the Devoted Cleric Sigil, which is an essential.. Unfortunately, I lack refinement points to get it to legendary. But that should be the first artifact that you get. That is currently my priority. Daily Happy Hours!

    Other then that, Vanguard's Banner and Sigil of the Great Weapon are probably going to be the best two for CW. (HP and great stats)

    Enchants

    For weapon enchantment use Vorpal or Greater Plague Fire.
    For armor enchantment use Soulforge or Barkshield
    For offensive slots use Radiant's
    For defensive slots use Radiant's
    For utility slots use Dark Enchantments for movement speed bonus
    For Glpyh's slot in either 2 Red Dragon Glyph OR 1 Green Dragon Glyph and 1 Red
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Feats


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    Row 1)
    Weapon Mastery- 3% critical chance, as renegade, you need as much critical chance as you can get.
    Toughness- HP is essential for PvP, 9% extra is just way too good to pass.

    Row 2)
    Fight on- 10% cool down reduction.
    Arcane Enhancement- Personal preference(Honestly doesn't make too big of a deal)

    Row 3)Blighting Power- 6% damage to targets affected by chill. This is pretty much free damage, as most of your abilities create a stack of chill.

    Row 4) Learned spell caster- INT gives even more extra % damage. If you are human, add 3 extra points onto this.
    Focused Wizardry- 30% extra damage toward single target ablilities, all of your abilities will be single target damage (PvP)

    Renegade Path
    Row 1)
    Critical Power-Every Time you crit, you gain action points= more frequent dailies
    Reapers Touch- Within 20 ft, Atwills deals 10% more damage. Just free extra damage.

    Row 2)
    All of the abilities in this row are useless for PvP.

    Row 3)
    Phantasmal Destruction- This pairs up with Nightmare Wizardry. Gain 15% extra crit severity, when combat advantage.
    Nightmare Wizardry- When crit 20% chance to gain combat advantage for you and your teammates, which then may proc Phantasmal Destruction.

    Row 4)
    Chilling Advantage- Chilling presence is used in this build, giving your spells 10% extra chance to crit which is crazy good. (Currently bugged but still good)
    Masterful Arcane Theft- Ray of Enfeeblement +15%



    Row 5)
    Chaos Magic- The reason why Renegade is so powerful! Team buffer, and has chance to give one of three powerful buffs.. Chaotic Growth gives you the survivability and insane healing. Chaos Nexus gives you 30% armor penetration and Critical Chance. And last but not least, Chaotic fury gives 30% more DAMAGE, and 10% lifesteal.

    Note: Severe reaction is also a extremely good choice.

    Boons

    Sharander

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    Dread Ring

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    Icewind Dale

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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Tyranny of Dragon

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    PvP Boons

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    Powers

    I have already unlocked every power to its maxed level, so no reason for me to post a screenshot of it. Instead, I will tell you the MUST have abilities to max out.


    Class Feature
    Chilling Presence- Your core class feature
    Storm Fury- The annoying class feature that makes HR’s hate you.
    Storm Spell- Crit shock kill
    Eye of Storm

    At Wills
    Magic Missile- the extra damage for when your encounters are on CD. Also used to gain arcane stack.
    Ray of Frost- the signature at will of the Control Wizard. FREEZE CONTROL REPEAT

    Encounters

    Chill Strike- Low Cooldown and free stun
    Ice Rays- Homing missiles that do alot of burst damage.
    Entangling force- Signature Encounter for control wizard, force choke and do your dps.
    Ray of Enfeeblement- Debuff and mitagation
    Repel- Absolute must have to keep distance from other classes after blowing off your combos.
    Shield- Even with this build, you are still extremely squishy and will be obliterated into pieces if against a good team enemy team. Shield is a must most of the time.
    Conduit of Ice- I personally don't prefer this but some Control Wizards use it.

    Pugsmasher (risky)

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    Normal

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    Rotation's

    The order in which you use your abilities are completely situational.

    EF>ROF>CHILL STRIKE>Ray of Frost>Repel
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Misc items

    For best performance, I recommend you get some of these awesome potions and misc items.

    Tymora’s Lucky Coin- Random benefit of 330 rating
    Adorable Pocket Pet- One random benefit of either decreased threat gain by 5%, increase crit severity by 5%, increase regeneration by 250, or Increase action point gain by 250.
    Champion’s Battle Horn- 2160 temporary hit points AND increases your run speed by 50% for 3 seconds.
    Throne of the Lion- To sit down like a boss after beating the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the enemy team

    Potions

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    Hero’s Feast- 150 power and 1000 max HP increase
    Elixir of Corellon’s Blood-Increases power by 300 and chance gain up to 5 stacks of 60 power
    Elixir of Fate-Increases all attribute by 1 for 30 minutes
    Foehammer’s Favor Elixir-Increases deflection by 300 and Deflect severity by 10%
    Sun Lord's Gift Elixir-300 additional recovery and chance to gain 5% of your max ap over 20 seconds
    Wild storm Elixir-300 critical strike and increases Critical Severity by 10%
    Potion of Heroism-Increases Primary and Secondary Attributes by 1
    Major Flask of Protection-225 Defense, 225 Deflection and Maximum hitpoints by 1000
    Major Flask of Potency-Critical Strike by 225, recovery by 225, power by 225, and finally critical severity by 7.5%
    Watermelon Sorbet-682 power and 110 recovery
    Major Potion of Force- 200 power


    Thanks for reading! I hope you learned something from the build, and wish you the best of luck in PvP.
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    hfgtfsdfshfgtfsdfs Member Posts: 688 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Soo this is why you asked me all those questions about CWs? =D
    ZengiaH@ejziponken
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Haha learned from the best =)
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    rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    36k HP won't cut it especially since you've proven you have AD to buy BIS gear.

    I'd try going for 43-45k HP
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    36k HP won't cut it especially since you've proven you have AD to buy BIS gear.

    I'd try going for 43-45k HP

    With this new meta especially with cleric, you dont need 43-45k hp. Although it is really preference.
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    rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    isammax wrote: »
    With this new meta especially with cleric, you dont need 43-45k hp. Although it is really preference.

    Umm yeah you do. HP is still the best defensive stat to prevent you from being bursted down.

    You just don't need 50k HP anymore. Talking about premade PVP though.
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    ^ On build I said that this is not optimal for PvP premades

    Although, yes I agree you need a bit more hp however,I have to say you can wreck hard in premades with just 40k.
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    tarftgmtarftgm Banned Users Posts: 169 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Saw you in a random domination.

    You are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too squishy.
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    chemboy613chemboy613 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    for more resiliance you could easily:

    wear full purified
    switch pain for shielding
    use CON instead of BI belt
    Put points into CON when respec

    These changes would get you much more HP and survivability.

    He does make a good point, this probably smashes pugs but in premades is too squishy, however it's easy to adjust that ^^

    Nice work flash.
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    obsydian666obsydian666 Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Nice dmg, Interesting build...but...only with good DC, without it i dont think so you Have a chance against another classes.

    PS. If new pvp set won't change, and this stupid drow set with "super bonus" to Tabbed skills will stay as it is, i think it should be very good build ;p
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    Updated with new spec
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    c1k4ml3kc3c1k4ml3kc3 Member Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    36k HP won't cut it especially since you've proven you have AD to buy BIS gear.

    I'd try going for 43-45k HP

    Dude, I go with 26k CW in IWD with AOE spells, just to troll 21k+ GFs with Renegade PvE build doing 50k DPS with one rotation + knife. Dead OP GF. Dead. And, yes, PvP-wise all you need is good survivability and adequate burst, which renegade specialises in.
    No wonder he's in the first CW in the ranking system. If I wanted to go full PvP I'd pretty much do the same thing like he did, skills, etc. This is proper build by a proper player for PvP, no question about it.

    And

    "Chaos Nexus gives you 30% armor penetration and Critical Chance."

    I wonder whether this applies to the Red Dragon enchantment, but PvP-wise RoF will get a MAJOR boost, and since it's a dot spell there might be some additional combinations done et cetera.

    Extra Hp always comes in handy, but for a renegade might be an overkill.
    True Neutral
    Left the Game due to heavy Damage Control & Missing Spanish Language
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    herundrionherundrion Member Posts: 238 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Nice dmg, Interesting build...but...only with good DC, without it i dont think so you Have a chance against another classes.

    PS. If new pvp set won't change, and this stupid drow set with "super bonus" to Tabbed skills will stay as it is, i think it should be very good build ;p

    He does run with a good DC.
    *cough* *cough*


    hi, flash
    Co-Founder of -Valor-
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    rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    c1k4ml3kc3 wrote: »
    Dude, I go with 26k CW in IWD with AOE spells, just to troll 21k+ GFs with Renegade PvE build doing 50k DPS with one rotation + knife. Dead OP GF. Dead. And, yes, PvP-wise all you need is good survivability and adequate burst, which renegade specialises in.
    No wonder he's in the first CW in the ranking system. If I wanted to go full PvP I'd pretty much do the same thing like he did, skills, etc. This is proper build by a proper player for PvP, no question about it.

    And

    "Chaos Nexus gives you 30% armor penetration and Critical Chance."

    I wonder whether this applies to the Red Dragon enchantment, but PvP-wise RoF will get a MAJOR boost, and since it's a dot spell there might be some additional combinations done et cetera.

    Extra Hp always comes in handy, but for a renegade might be an overkill.

    Well IWD and PVP aren't exactly the same. Just because you don't ever face Chocolate Shoppe premade in IWD and you can't use your companions and unlimited Iceforge pots to help you. I like renegade and all the skills/build mentioned in this thread by you and Flash but I still feel that 40k+ HP is the way to go. 26k HP is just too easy to get bursted down without letting your or the DC's heals to help you.
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    n1nja4n1nja4 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ty for the build! Do you also have picture for ur powers? Thank you !
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    n1nja4 wrote: »
    Ty for the build! Do you also have picture for ur powers? Thank you !

    Unfortunately I don't because I have already unlocked all the powers. =P
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    bielka72bielka72 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Just wondering why you don't use Snap Freeze? As in PVP the first person you strike and for that matter many enemies have not been effected by chill previously. That's a 10% damage increase that could be had. I know your build is renegade so that might be it.
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    umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    bielka72 wrote: »
    I know your build is renegade so that might be it.
    Yes, that's it.

    Renegade tree doesn't allow you to spend more than 5 points in another tree.
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    rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    umsche wrote: »
    Yes, that's it.

    Renegade tree doesn't allow you to spend more than 5 points in another tree.

    You have 10 extra points to spend. But that means they have to sacrifice severe reaction for snap freeze
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    umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    You have 10 extra points to spend. But that means they have to sacrifice severe reaction for snap freeze

    Any decent renegade will take Phantasmal Destruction and Nightmare Wizardry. Chilling advantage (when debugged) and masterfull arcane theft both are better than snap freeze.

    So that leaves you just 5 points that you can spend on snap freeze, which is the best option.
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    laughingbirddddlaughingbirdddd Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Throne of the Lion- To sit down like a boss after beating the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the enemy team

    Don'd forget to bring the small party popper and small fireworks to celebrate next to the enemy base:)
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    jeffmwillsonjeffmwillson Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Edited post. meh.... no need to state what i stated..... at least some people are trying to help the cw pvp community...
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    c1k4ml3kc3c1k4ml3kc3 Member Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Well IWD and PVP aren't exactly the same. Just because you don't ever face Chocolate Shoppe premade in IWD and you can't use your companions and unlimited Iceforge pots to help you. I like renegade and all the skills/build mentioned in this thread by you and Flash but I still feel that 40k+ HP is the way to go. 26k HP is just too easy to get bursted down without letting your or the DC's heals to help you.

    IWD pots exist in PvP IWD? I'll have to remember that lol. Always hated pots in PvP. Don't know why. 2min CD, right? The way I utilized my Renegade wasn't for PvP BUT it's so easy to get a high amount of sustain even without the 40k + |HP| whas all I wrote.

    PvP-wise I'd just go Oppressor CW and stack hp/wis, the usual. Although, Renegade has better sustain so Corrupted gear might come in handy. Then again, all you need for PvP is HP and lots of it, and classes which utilize HP better.

    Green buff all the way. And Con belt. And Radiant in every single viable DEF slot. But, still, pales in comparison to the TR/HR/GF/GWF
    CWs are much better as supporters in current meta, and renegade's the way to go if you're tired of the boring Oppressor builds for the past...three mods? Yeah.

    Regards M8
    True Neutral
    Left the Game due to heavy Damage Control & Missing Spanish Language
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    isammaxisammax Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    Updated feats due to Chilling Presence bug. I now run Eye of Storm and Storm Spell for class feature right now.
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    rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    umsche wrote: »
    Any decent renegade will take Phantasmal Destruction and Nightmare Wizardry. Chilling advantage (when debugged) and masterfull arcane theft both are better than snap freeze.

    So that leaves you just 5 points that you can spend on snap freeze, which is the best option.

    So you do not run with Severe Reaction in PVP I presume?
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    jeffmwillsonjeffmwillson Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    isammax wrote: »
    Misc items

    Hero’s Feast- 150 power and 1000 max HP increase
    Elixir of Corellon’s Blood-Increases power by 300 and chance gain up to 5 stacks of 60 power
    Elixir of Fate-Increases all attribute by 1 for 30 minutes
    Foehammer’s Favor Elixir-Increases deflection by 300 and Deflect severity by 10%
    Sun Lord's Gift Elixir-300 additional recovery and chance to gain 5% of your max ap over 20 seconds
    Wild storm Elixir-300 critical strike and increases Critical Severity by 10%
    Potion of Heroism-Increases Primary and Secondary Attributes by 1
    Major Flask of Protection-225 Defense, 225 Deflection and Maximum hitpoints by 1000
    Major Flask of Potency-Critical Strike by 225, recovery by 225, power by 225, and finally critical severity by 7.5%
    Watermelon Sorbet-682 power and 110 recovery
    Major Potion of Force- 200 power

    Forgive me if I am wrong... but... major potion of force does not stack with elixir of correllons blood.. if you use correlons blood elixir.. then the major potion of force.. the last one used will remain... and major flask of protection or major flask of defense also negate other elixirs when used... Unless this has changed in recent patches.. best to stick with elixirs because their additional bonus's are far superior to just stats
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    umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    So you do not run with Severe Reaction in PVP I presume?

    I personnaly don't because I don't pvp that much, but it seems a pretty good defensive mecanism.
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