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I know I've said it before elsewhere, and I'm sure that kweassa will come in here and accuse me of something or other, but I figured I'd suss out everyone else's opinion on the matter.
Should Scoundrels have some sort of extra damage against CC-immune targets? As it stands, the reason to take a Scoundrel (control through dazes) is done better by a CW (control through freezes/stuns), and the CW deals better damage vs bosses, too. The difficulty in getting Great Success on dragons right now has just been really putting this at the forefront for me.
As fun as it is, I'm actually... considering dropping Scoundrel, just because of the lack of damage versus bosses.
Should Scoundrels have some sort of extra damage against CC-immune targets? As it stands, the reason to take a Scoundrel (control through dazes) is done better by a CW (control through freezes/stuns), and the CW deals better damage vs bosses, too. The difficulty in getting Great Success on dragons right now has just been really putting this at the forefront for me.
As fun as it is, I'm actually... considering dropping Scoundrel, just because of the lack of damage versus bosses.
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scoundrel is obviously a path pvp oriented for those who dont like stealth as mechanic implemented in this game...
it really has little to no place in pve and i m ok with that.
Seriously, the scoundreal is a path for a support oriented tr.
Your job with this path is to support the action of the party, no to deal extreme damage
Some paths are better than others in some areas, but weaker in other areas. Deal with it.
(ps) If the Scoundrel does need buffs, then its about the non-CC related feats, which are lackluster at best, useless at worst.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Everything else not CC immune are such a harmless joke right now there should be a little tradeoff.
Always asking for more. TR's are better than they ever have been. There is no reason to have scoundrel buffed more just because of CC immune targets. Accept you cant freakin' kill everything with ease.
CW's have to deal with CC immune targets too, and thier primary role is control. At least Scoundrel has better defenses to deal with up front battles.
This kind of stuff where players just want everything is annoying. If you're lacking damage, you're doing something wrong, or you just worrying way too much in trying to deal the best damage ever. And you're playing for the wrong reasons either way.
Using ranged at-wills and murdering left and right with no challenge of any sort.
-Pros: Have bonus damage + longer daze duration against non cc immune character
With the new smoke bomb & Dazling strike, i don't think you & your team will have any problem dealing with boss adds
Does bilethorn still viable with df build?
The thing you have to remember that Scoundrel TRs arent the only class/build that don't do as well versus CC immune targets, so CWs for example can't freeze/control for extra damage either. Making everything susceptible to control effects is obviously a bad idea as CWs already have a far too easy time of it versus most enemies and that would make it worse. I just consider being a Scoundrel a more versatile and supportive build to have in the group and not just focused on pure damage, which can take the place of a CW for helping with control much like a Trapper HR could. When it comes to damage on single target boss/tough enemy fights I would still hope to see TR above CW tho...
Saboteur = Permastealth + high dmg
That said, I can still get Great Success on Dragons unless there's a major zerg happening. I just go melee and use DF a lot. Hitting stealth just as the third phase fires is great for building critical bleed stacks.
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Lol at the idea of either of them doing low damage though. Just lol.
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What part of "only" did you talk about when obv scoundrel are able to daze the enemy 24/7 (not to mention the bonus damage when hitting enemies under control effect) plus Sabo main damage come from stealth at will, which mean they are more focused on focusing one target rather than hitting whole colony.
HELLO!? Ever use dazing/smoke/blitz? AoE mass destruction. Toss in a crit DHS and DF and there, there's your massive single target. You really didn't explore the scoundrel's potential very far.
Exactly - that is what I was going to say (or something close to that).
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If I had a concern it would be that a comp geared CW will do better AE damage, better single target damage, with better control and arguable comparable survivability. I don't think that is a problem necessarily with the scoundrel, though, but more that the CW is still far too powerful compared to other classes and hopefully some overall real and finally addressed and corrected balance changes will come to be instead of this hit and miss (more like miss and miss) style that has been going on. Anyways scoundrel is for me especially after playing anything else without that 25% movement bonus...
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