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whitemorail
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Now in pvp it's DC vs. TR:
I saw a 19k TR take down a DC with one lashing blade... the problem is that we were fighting he in 3vs1 for 5 min without taking off health (and without dieing cause we have a DC too).
2 round: DC come back to node and same TR with same LB strike at him, leaving just a very little health (maybe 1k) and Abracadabra, Gift of fait and health completely restored and replay movie!
I think I need popcorn for mod 5 pvp :>
I saw a 19k TR take down a DC with one lashing blade... the problem is that we were fighting he in 3vs1 for 5 min without taking off health (and without dieing cause we have a DC too).
2 round: DC come back to node and same TR with same LB strike at him, leaving just a very little health (maybe 1k) and Abracadabra, Gift of fait and health completely restored and replay movie!
I think I need popcorn for mod 5 pvp :>
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I think some people may have a habit of " set it and forget it" on powers so they don't adjust during a PvP match. It's okay to take 30 seconds to pick other powers for your class to used VS whomever that other team is ( or dungeon/ skirmish you're trying to do).
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
I was against GoF at first, but now I think we should keep it as it is, because something needs to counter LB oneshots.
On other hand, a skilled cleric (pure healer class) can hold on for 5 minute versus a trickster.
The situation is completely normal.
i can abuse a certain combo/daily and keep him feeling threatened but no way to kill him.
i may have a chance with the new cloak tho + cleric artifact
actually i cant reliably but with daily up and a little of help from a team mate we can clear it.
when i will have a legendary cloak i should not have problem
daily----cleric artifact----daily----cloak in 1 min----daily
what i fear most in a dps DC.... that can 2shots you and/or let you die with a pair of dots.
and its not like he is squishy 'cause he spec'd for dps
dude you are immortal stop trying to hide that.
IMMORTAL.
then if you cant kill me and i cant kill you i may be ok with that but stop trying to hide things.
and fix empowered astral shield that is hilarious bugged/intentionally OP
Stop spewing nonsense. When an entire team is unable to kill a 14k DC who can also heal his team to full then there's something wrong. I haven't yet faced any decently geared DC but I dread it.
A TR arguing with a DC about immortality.
If properly specced/ geared and used, both classes are currently immortal. Cause TRs can't die either unless they really mess up their rotation, or get a lag spike, or is really really unlucky.
Else you will be out of reach or immune 99% of the time, and that 1% is covered by latency-friendly mechanics .
That's why on leaderboard TRs have the lowest death count and there's also on page 2 a TR with 446 kills 3 deaths. And another one the next page or something with 196/3 or something. All the others have AT LEAST a 10/1 K/D ratio.
The point is, your class is immortal too. A DPS DC could kill you in 2 hits but he would not land his hits if you play properly cause you would be either immune, or in stealth, or he'd be dazed. Even if he by pure luck and skillz manages to catch you and 2 hit you, you would SF back to life, roll away in stealth and puff...safe.
This whole thread is pointless and looking at 1 immortal class whining over another immortal class is just lol.
As much as i'm happy my tank scrub DC now really feels like a tank DC, i hope devs remove whatever can make the class OP or immortal. And hope they do the same with the TRs "absolute defense" mechanics.
Also, just on a side note: a immortal tank DC is immortal but can't kill a thing.
TRs are immortal due to defensive tools and stealth piled up together to keep them away from damage 99% of the time, and can also DPS people down.
As i said, there must be a vulnerability window the same as for any other class, during which the enemy can actually counterattack and you must use skills and timing to avoid damage.
I tell you that Empowered AS is an over kill right now as fellow DC. Regardless of what some people may think, its not Gift of Faith making it possible for us to face tank 3 people, its the AS. Gift of Faith is just an additional perk to annoy them. Yes a CW can chain CC us to death, but it still dose not change the fact if a CW is out of the picture for some reason (lets say you have a decent TR on youre team, who actually dose his job and picks them apart), we can face tank 3 people. Against 4 even an empowered AS will not help, its just a never ending chain of CC at that point. The funny part we do not even need it in dungeons - not rely, this may cause some bashing from my fellow DCs, but i must say i was doing reasonably well in pugs in good old T2, while i still had a vague concept of empowered - meaning i almost did not use it(not to say i am much better at using empowered right now xD, but at least i know how how to lay one in PvP now, let me tell you gets boring fast, i got so lazy, i do not even try to dodge). HoTs, if specked right provides more then enough healing power. How ever i am strictly against altering our damage output now, in Mod4 it was such pain to do simple dailies- i do not want to go back to those days. Currently with big rework in whole DCs gaming mechanic, i will say they are in great spot right now - even without the OP AS ( cant believe someone called the old AS op - HAH to youre faces guys!) Been playing my Faithful DC since closed beta here. I am just afraid dvelopers will go over board as usual and will live us chewing dust behind other classes, like in mod4.
Stop denying the obvious. You're just making a fool of yourself.
assuming I'm talking about high end pvp.
I'm just think that Gof need a rebalance in Pvp, in pve could have some sense cause Npg like dragons or boss could almost kill you in one hit.
If in pvp, to kill a DC, we need a CW cc plus a TR executioner spec. (that's now, whit his one-shot-one-kill, is way OP too) I think it's not balanced.
I enjoy Dps tree for DC, cause it right to have at least 2 options about you path, so if I want to have something like an Inquisitor or something like, now I could have.
I have a 60lvl toon for each class so I'm quite expert about game mechanic, but I can't still found right rotation.. so any suggestion is appreciated.
About TR is the same problem: they couldn't have stealth and dps at the same moment, just make two different paths.
Indeed, before this patch, killing a perma stealth was quite impossible, since they could hold a node vs.3 enemy, without kill them maybe, but also without dieing and keeping their node occupied. For me it was more balanced that now.
Know they could go stealth and kill one with LB in 1vs1 or just deshearting strike everyone if they are 1vs2 or more. Not balanced.
Trickster Rogue vs Cleric is Trickster Rogue win period! I have a Trickster Rogue and Cleric both so I should know. Yes DC can kill a Trickster Rogue every now and then, but that is from far distance safe and likely an injured hurt Trickster Rogue. One vs one Trickster Rogue beats EASILY a Divine Cleric.
Now about Control Wizard yes they are strong also and Clerics have problems if they get CC on Cleric, but you do NOT need a Wizard and Rogue both 2 vs 1 Cleric to kill the Cleric lol.
-Tr
-Cw
yeah, we are OP -.- we are so OP that a CW killed me whitout let me use 1 atk. And i am full pvp geared. yeah, i denying the obvious -.- Gz, you are pro. Have fun. For sure, no one had ever use a Dc, but say it's OP because you are so ******ed and you don't know how to kill us.
dude is 3 button game not rocket science.
-.- so you wont an easy oneshot pvp -.- YOU ARE SO PRO OMG!!!
thought it would be tougher as a cleric since some people keep saying clerics die too quick
This'd be your first mistaken assumption.
...and this your second mistaken assumption.
The only thing I can conclude at this point is you have both TR and DC as characters, and yet you know neither of them.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'