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Why did we prepatch?

rheeparkrheepark Member Posts: 61 Arc User
edited November 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Why did we prepatch if i have to patch again and crash mid patch and repatch and stil patching for over 2 hours? What happened during all these patches? Did something break?
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    chaostheorysevenchaostheoryseven Member Posts: 84
    edited November 2014
    If there was no additional mini-patch today (mere 2GB!) you couldn't enjoy proper nostalgia over these 15yr old download speeds.
    I love to burst bubbles.
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    myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Just imagine the fun without a pre-patch. It probably would have been a lot worse. :)

    Think positive! :)
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    rheeparkrheepark Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mine has been a 1012 megabyte patch and its been 2 hours.......
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    lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Bandwidth is a finite resource. Doesn't matter how fast your own connection is, if you have nothing less than the entire playerbase patching, you're going to have your download speeds slowed to a crawl.
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    effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    lewstelamon01 wrote: »
    Bandwidth is a finite resource. Doesn't matter how fast your own connection is, if you have nothing less than the entire playerbase patching, you're going to have your download speeds slowed to a crawl.

    this didn't happend with dread ring/sharandar or icewind. but yeah. you are right.
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    silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Makes me glad this happens while I'm at work :)

    If you want better bandwidth, slide some money under the door ;)
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    rheeparkrheepark Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I just wanted to know what broke from my prepatches but on a side note, how many people play this game anyway? cant be more then 10,000.
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    effectensteineffectenstein Member Posts: 1,031 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    rheepark wrote: »
    how many people play this game anyway? cant be more then 10,000.

    it's over 9000 !!!!!!
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    kilden1234kilden1234 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 42
    edited November 2014
    Advice to DEV's: Dont make such a HYPE about new module release if you cannot deliver on the day. Im suck at 53% paching, and getting pissed coz you hyped this and got me all exited.

    I guess the way to go is to not expect anything, not get exited, and not get hypped about this game, because you cannot deliver on the day. Im really, utterly unimpressed.
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    freshourfreshour Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kilden1234 wrote: »
    Advice to DEV's: Dont make such a HYPE about new module release if you cannot deliver on the day. Im suck at 53% paching, and getting pissed coz you hyped this and got me all exited.

    I guess the way to go is to not expect anything, not get exited, and not get hypped about this game, because you cannot deliver on the day. Im really, utterly unimpressed.


    - i second this.
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    rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kilden1234 wrote: »
    Advice to DEV's: Dont make such a HYPE about new module release if you cannot deliver on the day. Im suck at 53% paching, and getting pissed coz you hyped this and got me all exited.

    I guess the way to go is to not expect anything, not get exited, and not get hypped about this game, because you cannot deliver on the day. Im really, utterly unimpressed.

    Every single MMO is this way on a big release.
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    kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    And, in point of fact, Neverwinter has been this way on every release. It's like RNG whether you happen to get a solid connection or not.

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    chrcorechrcore Member Posts: 329 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    It was just a pre-patch. They still needed to patch again today :)
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    sireuainsireuain Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I understand bandwidth and that not everything can be pre-downloaded.

    Why is it that every time the downloader stops downloading, I have to start over from scratch?
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    freshourfreshour Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Gives them more time to fix bugs
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    dragonphenoixdragonphenoix Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    try on demand patch as long as u dont go to new area ur fine
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    allself44allself44 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    wait till you try to enter the new zone "Well of Dragons"
    been over 20 minutes and still downloading.
    Shining on the stupidity of it all, in all its glory
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    chaostheorysevenchaostheoryseven Member Posts: 84
    edited November 2014
    sireuain wrote: »
    Why is it that every time the downloader stops downloading, I have to start over from scratch?
    It doesn't start from the scratch. Even though it says 0% afterwards, is simply continues where it left off.
    I love to burst bubbles.
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    c0ttyc0tty Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    .... losing the will to live wile try zone to The Well of Dragons . Patching 6 files ....
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    silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Turn off on-demand patching in options. It takes longer to load up the game but you don't have to wait when changing zones.
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    yukimaru153yukimaru153 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    rheepark wrote: »
    Why did we prepatch if i have to patch again and crash mid patch and repatch and stil patching for over 2 hours? What happened during all these patches? Did something break?

    now that sir or madam is a dammmmmmn good question XD
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    blackjackwidowblackjackwidow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    You're probably not re-downloading anything. The thing that is taking a lot of time (I think) is that the game server sends a request on each file to see if it already exists in your pre-patch folder; then your computer sends back that info; then the game server sends a request to your computer to copy the file from the pre-patch folder to the live folder; then your computer sends another ping back to tell the game server it's been copied; then the whole process starts over again. So all that pinging back and forth among all the attempts to log in is clogging up the pipeline.

    If you get disconnected, then there is the initial request to see what's in your live folder, etc - then you might notice that your game 'total patched' number usually goes down a bit based on whatever is remaining on the patch.

    You can watch the whole process happening by pressing 'ctrl-x' once the launcher starts the patching process.
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    yukimaru153yukimaru153 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    lewstelamon01 wrote: »
    Bandwidth is a finite resource. Doesn't matter how fast your own connection is, if you have nothing less than the entire playerbase patching, you're going to have your download speeds slowed to a crawl.

    agreed but connection speed is like buying power. unless they are using a third world server that as. I have never in my gaming experience seen where its taking 10 min to patch 7 files and im running over 110 mbps in the USA......
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    aspen1979aspen1979 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 64
    edited November 2014
    stuck at 53% as well
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    ucanthandleucanthandle Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    So I did all the prepatching. Started zoning and it took forever, over 20 minutes and I still had not zoned. I force closed the game and reopned. Now I have 5.6GB to download and its going at less than 20kbs... Looks like i get to play next month.
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    lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    yukimaru153 wrote: »
    agreed but connection speed is like buying power. unless they are using a third world server that as. I have never in my gaming experience seen where its taking 10 min to patch 7 files and im running over 110 mbps in the USA......

    Again, YOUR connection may be running fast but in this case it's running into a brick wall on the other end. It has nothing to do with what server Cryptic is using--it's the bandwidth of their connection that's being taxed.
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    malakut#1916 malakut
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         Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kilden1234 wrote: »
    Advice to DEV's: Dont make such a HYPE about new module release if you cannot deliver on the day. Im suck at 53% paching, and getting pissed coz you hyped this and got me all exited.

    I guess the way to go is to not expect anything, not get exited, and not get hypped about this game, because you cannot deliver on the day. Im really, utterly unimpressed.


    Good For you! Now if you could only stop bashing the NW Staff....
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    rhoricrhoric Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    yukimaru153 wrote: »
    agreed but connection speed is like buying power. unless they are using a third world server that as. I have never in my gaming experience seen where its taking 10 min to patch 7 files and im running over 110 mbps in the USA......

    Also Providers have been throttling internet traffic as the want people to pay for faster service. So having 110 mbps in the US is nothing. That is just a plan you are on with your provider. Whether you get those speeds is a different matter.
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    unabletodisplayunabletodisplay Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    also, don't forget to hit the "anykey" after it patches!!
    I'm in the "prison" now!!
    :)
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    akselmoiakselmoi Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Servers getting clogged happens SOOOO often with MMO's (and some other games) when something new and exciting is coming out.

    Sure it sucks bananas but all we can really do is wait.. And they should learn that they need more bandwidth before rolling out bigger updates.

    Patience, my friends.
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