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should you get rp from end chests to promote group play and dungeon fun
dodgo
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should you get rp from end chests to promote group play and dungeon fun
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But seriously I currently have no reason to run dungeons and that really just sucks. Boss drops, chests, whatever just give me something to be worth my time. We used to farm CN, potentially get 100k AD ring, 100k AD neck and belts, well not 100k AD, but something and a 500k-1m AD weapon piece so about 100-200k each for split runs. 6/8k rAD and an abysmally low drop rate just does not cut it. I am not going to waste my time. Even if I chose to I can only do a few runs until I reached max refine limit, I can't farm all day. We need some form of progression/way to sell reasonably valuable loot.
Well at least the raid rewards are looking good.
Armour, helm, gloves 15/12/10 linu's favor
Off hand
4 Artifact cloaks
Dragon queen boon tome all 15 favor.
Also from raid but not with favor you can get a new artifact.
1 favor rewarded for tiamat win, plus there's supposedly a repeatable quest somehow that I haven't seen.
Chest with special key can give arms, belts and boon tome.
Basically its something you can actually farm for at least some time and not get bored, although that doesn't last forever considering that stuff apart from the tome is bop. But the store is a welcome addition.
Edit: Forgot to say that being from the preview shard it's not set in stone, but considering it's coming so soon I'd say it's pretty likely. Even if the raid isn't immediately available.
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To be fair, not many people who weren't trolls would vote no. It's like asking a stranger if they want £1 million. Chances are they're going to say yes.
Grind your gear to Legendary is near impossible unless you do shady foundries which probably will be fixed sooner or later anyway. And then we desperately need another reliable source of RPs. Dungeons are not rewarding, we need RP. Looks like a fit to me. Since prices for RPs will be skyrocketing come Tuesday it could even be somewhat profitable to run DDs again...
But I've said it in another thread: I guess they'll wait until the economy has stabilized under the new BtA conditions and slowly adjust from there.
Gold farmers I imagine don't really do dungeons. This would give an RP supply to those that do dungeons which are more social and fun then sitting in a foundry or farming adds all day. The latest dungeons have been quite unrewarding so this could be a solution if they're not stingy. It'd move the rp supply from botters to players.
Edit: By the way there's currently 6 votes for no when initially there were 2 votes for yes so a few of those votes for no don't actually count and you can vote for both options which isn't a problem if they were both yes... I think 1 persona at least did that.
Yeah, I was referring to these foundries. Everyone is currently getting tons of RPs out of them, but I guess after making these BtA, the next step will be dealing with the foundries.
And all stuff from chests is already BoP, so there nothing newly added RPs could drag down in the AH. I the drop rate of BoE RPs within dungeons has to be severely buffed, it's an area bots can't touched and people can use to make some profit off their runs.
Might add BtA/BoP stuff from chests/dailies as well, wouldn't hurt.
I'd rather they made them BoE from chests otherwise once you have all legendaries, you're stuck with rp you can't use and are continued to be unrewarded for running dungeons. I mean enchants and glyphs are BoE. Players need farmable fun content again, just like we continued to farm CN when we had our CN set.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
For the current game, aquamarine are simply garbage now. That and a ton of peridots are what you'd probably end up with anyway...
They should be unbound and have a range of drops from aquamarine to black opal (or something in the lines) to be a worthwhile change anyways. U can ony do a certain ammount of runs per dd + the daily key and then its spending 5k on keys, so rewards should be at leats slightly mre ad than that to be rewarding.
That's why I said "quite a few" nicer items.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
In what way is it biased?
In what way is it a statement?
In what way are polls subject to censorship, according to the ToS and RoC?
It is a simple, straightforward question:
YES or NO.
Because he edited the poll options from yes and yes to yes and no. Yes and yes is bias, though I don't really think the OP was looking for an unbiased poll just maybe see how many people agreed.
How is this going to cause trolling? To be honest the idea of this poll is to show the designers of this game that if they are going to close off The farmers and make RP BOP then they should be doing stuff to help alleviate that void that will open up in it's place.
This is a great idea which should be put into all dungeons and even skirmishes. Make the RP item reward much larger in dungeons though. Heck, you can even tailor it to the different needs Peridots and the like for regular artifacts in some dungeons and skirmishes, resonance stones and stuff in others and use that to track who's doing what and how often. Might help you build a better game in the future. I have more to say on this but I want to focus on this idea, not some of the issues of the game.
Yes, and using foundry farming missions is NOT what they were intended for. Nor is it really fun. Matter of fact it is pretty much the opposite of everything I would hope the game devs want people to experience in Neverwinter.
Oh, I see! That would have been a really silly poll, then!
Although, it would have been more useful and educational to the parts of the community (like me) who did not see the original poll to say that.
"Such a poll with a YES/NO question but only a choice of YES/YES is not a true poll..."
Thanks for clarifying that. I completely agree, if that is what was meant.
I also think that getting White Pearls and Peridots from the Chests of Wondrous Whatevertheyarecalled for 7 Celestial Coins is well past it's Best Before: Date.
LOL! "Best Before: Module 3"!
On 12 characters opening one of those boxes every week since February, I think I have got two, possibly three, Coalescent Wards. You can guesstimate the odds from that.
I also think that once you have spent 70 Power Points from post-level 60 XP Rewards, the drop rates should shift to a new set of tables which give better odds for those Coffers, Professions Nodes, Dungeon Chests, Monster drops etc etc.
With 12 level 60 characters I get a huge incoming stream of Rank 2 to 4 enchants and runes from Leadership and playing. Every couple of days I have to visit my 48 Shared Bank Vault slots to off-load and have a mass refining session just to clear my inventories. And they all have a Dragonhoard Bag and at least two Greater Bags of Holding.
But, with 12 level 60 characters, my four Main characters have Rank 7 and 8 Enchants and Runes, so I actually NEED a massive flow coming in. My other characters have none at all.
I could probably collect them all together again and make enough Rank 8 and 9 for a single character, but I actually like to play both my DCs (DO and AC) AND both my TRs (MI and WK) and I also like to play all my other characters from time to time as well.
So, yes, Refining Stones should drop from all possible sources (as should all types of Marks for Artifacts) and should scale with your level far better than they do.
If these things did not ALL drop in-game at a rate which allowed you to progress at some sort of reasonable rate, or at least were available from an AD sink, it would not be truly Free To Play if some parts of the gaming experience were permanently closed off to you.
So I'd like to see more BtA Lesser Marks, Marks and Greater Marks of Potency/Power/Stability/Union AND more Power/Stability/Union/Resonance Stones of all four colours dropping in-game AND be added to an AD Sink like the Wondrous Bazaar.
And if they were BtA and available at the Wondrous Bazaar, I'd have a reason to buy Zen just to convert to AD. At the moment, there is nothing I need or even want that is worth the price until they increase the number of additional Shared Bank Slots from 40 to 160. Although, some of my characters would look good sitting on a Leopard of Chult, but I already have a Dawn Unicorn, a White Tiger and a Yeth Hound. And a Tier 2 Medium Inferno I foolishly got for 750 Trade Bars before I knew any better, but under my Dwarf it looks more like a pony.
I'd also like to see a New Service that just allows you to Re-Train your character and ALSO re-do your initial stat rolls without changing Race. The Race Change Tokens are as badly over-priced as the Blood Rubies and Coalescence Wards. But that is probably for another thread.
You get more than enough RP from other sources without resorting to additional RP rewards in chests (Skill nodes, Mobs, Enchantment abilities).
Adding RP to the loot drop from a dungeon chest would also have no noticable impact on you since a dungeon run takes time. How many dungeons can you run and wouldnt you get lots more RP from above mentioned sources along the way anyways?
Another option would be to sell marks and RP via the Bazaar, but then the AH would soon become redundant in that regard as well. I think there must be a reason why you cant buy everything in the Bazaar and have to buy other stuff on the AH. Maybe it has something to do with Lockboxes and selling off dungeon loot, but who knows
Good luck taking on Valindra with your Rank 5s...
Have you been in a coma? Or paddling up the Amazon? ALL RPs that drop from Enchants will be Bound to Account in the next Module, so there will be virtually no supply on the AH at all.
:rolleyes:
Edit: Also obviously the items would be BoP. Everything from the chest is currently bop.
Treating opinions not your own derogatory is really proving your point...
I was also saying that RP from chests wont have a huge impact on the overall RP you gather. What do you expect to get in those chests? Brilliant Diamonds? The best you can hope for is maybe a black opal, but much more often a Peridot or Aquamarine I would think.
Just take the gauntlet from the Dread Ring as an example. That one is a joke...The initial invest is much higher than any return you can hope to get: With the 45 K AD total you spend to get the mithral gauntlet you could have bought up to 150 K RP instead in the past weeks.
With the dragon's hoard enchantments, which are really quite affordable at the moment, the new system will reward active players. With dailies from Sharandar, Dread Ring and sometimes Dwarven Valley I made roughly 250 K RP in less than a week with a 7% chance for Refining Stones. And that is not counting the rank 4 enchantments I got anyways.
The solution, IMO, is to present the team with enemies that can't simply be steamrolled by well equipped players. Rather, enemies that think intelligently, and as a result, require our team to work together, is what is needed here. Alas, good enemy AI is unlikely, and ones that are just bigger bags of HP with more damaging attacks, is all we are likely to see.
The reward pools for most end chests are already flooded with what most people would consider "garbage" - maybe take some of the less desired items out of there and replace them with good value refinement items instead. While they're cleaning up the reward tables, maybe make it so you can never get anything worse than a T2 item from a T2 chest...
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