Yeah, I just don't get why they would have Zen mounts that are anything but 110%. Just doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, I can understand wanting to offer mounts at different price points - it's just that once you have a 110% speed one, it's very difficult to go to anything slower...
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I'm guessing that next weekend half of Neverwinter will be riding around on Shadow Wolf mounts. (assuming that its priced in line with other mounts; and lower than a Dusk Unicorn.) Similar to April 1st and the Respens game when many people bought the gelatinous cube mount. For nearly the entire month there was no way to avoid seeing one in protectors enclave.
The only problem with my gelatinous cube mount was that it is only 80% speed and costs far too much to upgrade to 110%.
As I said in another thread I am kinda hoping they make this one a little different from the other. Specifically make it Hell Hound size instead of being tiny like the other wolves. Doubt it will happen, but would be nice. I'll probably pick it up either way, as long as its cheaper than upgrading the green quality one.
I've seen some mention the possibility of it being BOE. I see no reason to think this would not be account-wide. Pretty sure every other Zen store mount is account-wide. Adding a BOE one would just confuse things. And lead to a lot of complaints from people who didn't pay attention. Know one but Crytpic knows at this point though. They may surprise me. But I think it'd be a bad call if they did.
Well, I can understand wanting to offer mounts at different price points - it's just that once you have a 110% speed one, it's very difficult to go to anything slower...
Would be a lot more 'acceptable' if you had a Zen option to upgrade those Zen-Store mounts on the account-wide scale. Even with the lower upgrade cost, its still prohibitively expensive to do them one at a time. I think such an option would increase sales of those lower rank mounts. And add a bit more diversity to what we see people riding.
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Would be a lot more 'acceptable' if you had a Zen option to upgrade those Zen-Store mounts on the account-wide scale. Even with the lower upgrade cost, its still prohibitively expensive to do them one at a time. I think such an option would increase sales of those lower rank mounts. And add a bit more diversity to what we see people riding.
Personally, I'd like to see mounts get a rework - have it where you buy a "base" mount to unlock a certain speed tier, (say 500Z for R1, 1500 for R2, and 2500 for R3), each with a limited selection of skins, (like maybe choice of 1 horse, wolf, or bear skin), and additional mount choices are just skins you unlock for the speed(s) you've unlocked.
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Would be great if you just unlock different tier riding skills (speeds) on your character (or account) depending if it's AD/zen and every mount you ride will go at that speed. The flip side of the coin, it would kind of break having 110% speed at level 20 unless you pay up. Or even better, go the speed of your zen mount or if you have a greater riding speed skill, it will go at your upgraded riding skill speed.
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edited October 2014
Well since I farmed for days to get the shadow wolf mount the first time around *and* I dropped the 2mil AD to make it 110%, i certainly hope that this mount is different than the green one. Can make it bigger like suggested (hellhound size) or just change it in some way.
The shadow wolf is the coolest looking mount in game, I don't mind if they give them away on zen store or claimable on every character or whatever, just make it different in appearance so we can identify it's not the rare dropped one, because yeah I can see like half of PE running around on them which will get old fast.
Well since I farmed for days to get the shadow wolf mount the first time around *and* I dropped the 2mil AD to make it 110%, i certainly hope that this mount is different than the green one. Can make it bigger like suggested (hellhound size) or just change it in some way.
The shadow wolf is the coolest looking mount in game, I don't mind if they give them away on zen store or claimable on every character or whatever, just make it different in appearance so we can identify it's not the rare dropped one, because yeah I can see like half of PE running around on them which will get old fast.
Likely not going to happen.
1) They've not fixed the radiance stone skin not being available
2) You realise they completely destroyed the rarity of the mystic inferno nightmares? They're not going to care about the exclusivity of the shadow wolves.
I mnaged to get like 5 or 6 shadow wolves last year, dunno if it was massive luck (with drops being extremely streaky in this game) or because they decided to lower drop rates after it went live or what.
Well, I can understand wanting to offer mounts at different price points - it's just that once you have a 110% speed one, it's very difficult to go to anything slower...
and if you are going to spend $ on a mount, it's not like the blue ones are noticeably cheaper. It would be a waste of $.
Rather then reinventing the wheel and changing the mount system. They just need to make every zen mount have a Green,Blue,and Purple option each with their own price.
If you are on a budget and REALLY want a Dusk unicorn for cheap, you can get a green one. Or if you really like the looks of the more default horses without all the armor you can get one of those at purple.
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Rather then reinventing the wheel and changing the mount system. They just need to make every zen mount have a Green,Blue,and Purple option each with their own price.
If you are on a budget and REALLY want a Dusk unicorn for cheap, you can get a green one. Or if you really like the looks of the more default horses without all the armor you can get one of those at purple.
That would be feasible as well, I suppose...
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4000 zen and claimable by each character! nice! hehe i thought it will cost that much. it's good that i bought exactly 4000 zen a few days ago. 3400 zen with a coupon (1 700 000 ad) not that bad actually for such a lovely mount
4000 zen and claimable by each character! nice! hehe i thought it will cost that much. it's good that i bought exactly 4000 zen a few days ago. 3400 zen with a coupon (1 700 000 ad) not that bad actually for such a lovely mount
Wish it was cheaper, don't find that it's worth $40, but I have AD so even though I have an epic mount, I'm getting it anyway. It's kind of cool. I have issues with zen values full stop though.
2 000 000 ad to upgrade from rank 1 to rank 3 ( and you have to be lucky enough to get that mount from the chest)
or 2 000 000 ad (without coupon discount from 20 lvl adventure reward box) account unlock for each character old or new.
i'm just glad it's claimable by each character and not BoE
So does anyone know if getting this mount counts as the green shadow wolf in the collections page? They didn't seem to add a new entry for the purple one.
4000 zen and claimable by each character! nice! hehe i thought it will cost that much.
I kind of figured they would go for their current max pricing for this mount! Too bad I slacked off for a few days and a few hundred zen short. Oh well, it will be mine tomorrow.
hexanna22Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 204Bounty Hunter
edited October 2014
I think that since this is an old event, which some player base already has all the items from, they should've made a way to upgrade the mount thru the event, even if it combined with the zen store.
So does anyone know if getting this mount counts as the green shadow wolf in the collections page? They didn't seem to add a new entry for the purple one.
40 bucks for a mount... lmfao!!
Look I understand that the core game is free, but this kind of horse-HAMSTER price gouging is just sad lol.
I know dozens of people who would be more apt to pay for the premium qualities of this game if they we're fairly priced and were presented as a good value.
As Fister above me had posted, it's a simple copy & paste mount, YOU cryptic aren't releasing anything significant with this and you are making the paying populous feel greatly under-appreciated and we also believe that you view us simple minded hicks that don't understand the value of a buck.
I'm a paying player, i've spent quite a bit in the few short months i've been playing, I would like to continue because this is my hobby, my source of entertainment and thus I deem it worthy of throwing some of my entertainment budget towards this, but if you continue with this kind of HAMSTER, you won't be seeing another dime from me - I'm sure there are others whom feel the same.
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40 bucks for a mount... lmfao!!
Look I understand that the core game is free, but this kind of horse-HAMSTER price gouging is just sad lol.
I know dozens of people who would be more apt to pay for the premium qualities of this game if they we're fairly priced and were presented as a good value.
As Fister above me had posted, it's a simple copy & paste mount, YOU cryptic aren't releasing anything significant with this and you are making the paying populous feel greatly under-appreciated and we also believe that you view us simple minded hicks that don't understand the value of a buck.
I'm a paying player, i've spent quite a bit in the few short months i've been playing, I would like to continue because this is my hobby, my source of entertainment and thus I deem it worthy of throwing some of my entertainment budget towards this, but if you continue with this kind of HAMSTER, you won't be seeing another dime from me - I'm sure there are others whom feel the same.
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The mount is account wide - the more chars you have the better value it gets. For one character? Sure its probably not the best value. On the other hand divide 40 by 11 if you are like me and the price suddenly seems much more reasonable - a mere $3.60 per char. Added to which its still cheaper than upgrading the green wolf to epic.
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damnataanimus I value your opinion and budget-mindedness, however it simply costs too much in one transaction for a single item even if account wide. When you sum up the digital content value based on the average just walked in the door joe, that's a 40 dollar mount. Does it give you a bonus? no. It's a fast glamour item and that's it. I understand when you start pushing 5 characters and above the deal becomes a bearable asset to purchase, but prior to that its a slap in the face.
When you can go out and lets say... buy a brand new off the shelf portable gaming game (3DS,Vita), or several full games (DLC included) via steam for that 40 bucks. Do you still find the mounts value to be that of 40 bucks? Hell-no.
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40 bucks for a mount... lmfao!!
Look I understand that the core game is free, but this kind of horse-HAMSTER price gouging is just sad lol.
Personally I'm fine with $40 for a mount. Even more fine with the fact that I used a coupon and got it for $34. There are cheaper mounts if you can't afford this one. The $25 Stormraider Clydesdale. Which is what? Just over $21 with a coupon I think.
What does disappoint me about the mount system is the training cost. If you did the grind and got the green Shadow Wolf... it would cost you $40 worth of AD to upgrade it for a single character. As opposed to $40 worth of Zen to buy an account-wide one. Again, less if you use a coupon. Which isn't an option for training. So it costs more to upgrade a mount for one character, than it does to buy an account-wide one. What part of that makes sense?
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Well, I can understand wanting to offer mounts at different price points - it's just that once you have a 110% speed one, it's very difficult to go to anything slower...
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The only problem with my gelatinous cube mount was that it is only 80% speed and costs far too much to upgrade to 110%.
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I've seen some mention the possibility of it being BOE. I see no reason to think this would not be account-wide. Pretty sure every other Zen store mount is account-wide. Adding a BOE one would just confuse things. And lead to a lot of complaints from people who didn't pay attention. Know one but Crytpic knows at this point though. They may surprise me. But I think it'd be a bad call if they did.
Would be a lot more 'acceptable' if you had a Zen option to upgrade those Zen-Store mounts on the account-wide scale. Even with the lower upgrade cost, its still prohibitively expensive to do them one at a time. I think such an option would increase sales of those lower rank mounts. And add a bit more diversity to what we see people riding.
Personally, I'd like to see mounts get a rework - have it where you buy a "base" mount to unlock a certain speed tier, (say 500Z for R1, 1500 for R2, and 2500 for R3), each with a limited selection of skins, (like maybe choice of 1 horse, wolf, or bear skin), and additional mount choices are just skins you unlock for the speed(s) you've unlocked.
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Would be great if you just unlock different tier riding skills (speeds) on your character (or account) depending if it's AD/zen and every mount you ride will go at that speed. The flip side of the coin, it would kind of break having 110% speed at level 20 unless you pay up. Or even better, go the speed of your zen mount or if you have a greater riding speed skill, it will go at your upgraded riding skill speed.
The shadow wolf is the coolest looking mount in game, I don't mind if they give them away on zen store or claimable on every character or whatever, just make it different in appearance so we can identify it's not the rare dropped one, because yeah I can see like half of PE running around on them which will get old fast.
Likely not going to happen.
1) They've not fixed the radiance stone skin not being available
2) You realise they completely destroyed the rarity of the mystic inferno nightmares? They're not going to care about the exclusivity of the shadow wolves.
I mnaged to get like 5 or 6 shadow wolves last year, dunno if it was massive luck (with drops being extremely streaky in this game) or because they decided to lower drop rates after it went live or what.
and if you are going to spend $ on a mount, it's not like the blue ones are noticeably cheaper. It would be a waste of $.
If you are on a budget and REALLY want a Dusk unicorn for cheap, you can get a green one. Or if you really like the looks of the more default horses without all the armor you can get one of those at purple.
That would be feasible as well, I suppose...
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Wish it was cheaper, don't find that it's worth $40, but I have AD so even though I have an epic mount, I'm getting it anyway. It's kind of cool. I have issues with zen values full stop though.
or 2 000 000 ad (without coupon discount from 20 lvl adventure reward box) account unlock for each character old or new.
i'm just glad it's claimable by each character and not BoE
I kind of figured they would go for their current max pricing for this mount! Too bad I slacked off for a few days and a few hundred zen short. Oh well, it will be mine tomorrow.
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Look I understand that the core game is free, but this kind of horse-HAMSTER price gouging is just sad lol.
I know dozens of people who would be more apt to pay for the premium qualities of this game if they we're fairly priced and were presented as a good value.
As Fister above me had posted, it's a simple copy & paste mount, YOU cryptic aren't releasing anything significant with this and you are making the paying populous feel greatly under-appreciated and we also believe that you view us simple minded hicks that don't understand the value of a buck.
I'm a paying player, i've spent quite a bit in the few short months i've been playing, I would like to continue because this is my hobby, my source of entertainment and thus I deem it worthy of throwing some of my entertainment budget towards this, but if you continue with this kind of HAMSTER, you won't be seeing another dime from me - I'm sure there are others whom feel the same.
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The mount is account wide - the more chars you have the better value it gets. For one character? Sure its probably not the best value. On the other hand divide 40 by 11 if you are like me and the price suddenly seems much more reasonable - a mere $3.60 per char. Added to which its still cheaper than upgrading the green wolf to epic.
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Mara Hawkeye -14.6k HR
Mara Spiritforge - 16.9k Tanky GF
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When you can go out and lets say... buy a brand new off the shelf portable gaming game (3DS,Vita), or several full games (DLC included) via steam for that 40 bucks. Do you still find the mounts value to be that of 40 bucks? Hell-no.
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Personally I'm fine with $40 for a mount. Even more fine with the fact that I used a coupon and got it for $34. There are cheaper mounts if you can't afford this one. The $25 Stormraider Clydesdale. Which is what? Just over $21 with a coupon I think.
What does disappoint me about the mount system is the training cost. If you did the grind and got the green Shadow Wolf... it would cost you $40 worth of AD to upgrade it for a single character. As opposed to $40 worth of Zen to buy an account-wide one. Again, less if you use a coupon. Which isn't an option for training. So it costs more to upgrade a mount for one character, than it does to buy an account-wide one. What part of that makes sense?