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marorin2
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Hello.
I really enjoy your game and i like to support it, but i have the above question - Why should some of us pay a lot more?
I live in Europe, but my salary is not in eu neither in $, but in local currency. However the price on the currencies your game allows are quite different for me(and for many more ppl i suppose), f.e. 1$ = 1.4 and 1eu=2 of the local currency.
The biggest problem comes when i want to send you my money - i can't choose in what currency to pay - i'm stuck with eu and can't make my payment in $, as your site automatically give me options only in eu. So f.e. 20eu are a lot more than 20 $ for me.
So my question is - why should we pay 40% more(in my case) for absolutely the same thing all other ppl pay, just because we live in different part or why we can't have the option to choose from the available to you currencies - in this case eu and $ ?
I really enjoy your game and i like to support it, but i have the above question - Why should some of us pay a lot more?
I live in Europe, but my salary is not in eu neither in $, but in local currency. However the price on the currencies your game allows are quite different for me(and for many more ppl i suppose), f.e. 1$ = 1.4 and 1eu=2 of the local currency.
The biggest problem comes when i want to send you my money - i can't choose in what currency to pay - i'm stuck with eu and can't make my payment in $, as your site automatically give me options only in eu. So f.e. 20eu are a lot more than 20 $ for me.
So my question is - why should we pay 40% more(in my case) for absolutely the same thing all other ppl pay, just because we live in different part or why we can't have the option to choose from the available to you currencies - in this case eu and $ ?
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Unfortunately, this catches some people who are in these weird middle grounds where they use a local currency, but are grouped in with the EU.
EDIT: I have a friend who lives in Turkey, which I believe doesn't use the Euro, but he's forced to pay for things in this game in Euros, which sucks for him.
Erm no. Originally when I bought zen I was paying in Dollars, which was okay because I live in South Africa. But one day, less than a week after I made my previous purchase, suddenly I was charged in Euro. It has nothing to do with the law as I don't reside anywhere near Europe. I agree that it is HAMSTER that some are forced to pay more than others due to location.
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Not all the European countries are in the EU. The following countries are not in the EU: Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Macedonia (Former Yugoslav Republic of), Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Norway, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Switzerland, Turkey (small western part), Ukraine, Vatican City
Croatia is part of EU, and you forgot to mention Kosovo.
You wanna sell virtual stuff in the EU? Then guess what, you're forking over a 20% cut or going to jail.
He was listing countries that are NOT in the EU.
Let me repeat that, it doesn't matter if you pay in dirt, the VAT is required to be paid by law.
There's the reason you have to pay more. It has nothing to do with any sort of prejudices. It's law. If you want it to change then you'll have to contact your government officials.
No and i'll explain why.
http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm
So even if the sales for my country in this case are over 35/100K eu, they'll still charge me just the VAT in my country which is 20%, or to speak in numbers 10$+20%=12$, which still is a lot more cheaper than 10 eu.
Also most games have lower prices in eu than in $ for many reasons, but the main one is - not to charge more(or at least not too much over) the players that must pay in eu, as 1eu >1 $ everywhere in the world.
EDIT: Also i just checked and i'm not charged VAT, as it seem that the sells for my country are less than the mentioned above, so i must pay just the price PWE set.
Also currency has a value. You pay the same value no matter what currency you use. It has nothing to do with the company deciding to let one country pay more or less or at least is not the case here.
When you pay for $20 dollars in Zen you pay 15.87 Euro plus the VAT rounded to an even number. However since the prices do not change daily unlike the currency value they charge an estimated similar value which may be more or less than the conversion rate at the present day.
I am not guessing. I am relaying information.
You are paying the VAT. Cut and Dry.
That is the answer. You are paying taxes.
$12 is 9.52 Eu.
Again, the numbers are rounded to an even number. It's not a day to day conversion.
It's a rough estimate of the conversion including the VAT.
Exactly. He listed Croatia as a non-EU country, but in fact it is in the EU, and he did not enlist Kosovo, which is in Europe, but not in the EU.
Please read more carefully before posting your reply.
P.S. Sorry for the offtopic.
Provided that you recognize Kosovo as a separate state instead of what it really is - a genuine part of Serbia.
It is recognized by the U.S. (where PWE has its headquarters), thus for all purposes of this thread, Kosovo is an independent state (states are recognized by other states, not by individuals).
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Thank you ambisinisterr for your response, but most of all thank you for the link to the thread.
I think i found my answer:
Sadly isn't satisfying at all to say at least.
I found the relevant piece of legislation: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/e-services/article_1610_en.htm#a1
But is does mean that there are a couple of other questions that really should be answered clearly:
Firstly, are PWE paying the taxes they collect to the EU?
Secondly, why are PWE charging EU VAT on people who are not in the EU and where are those taxes paid to?
For those in the EU I recommend getting a 'best rate' prepaid currency card to avoid excessive bank charges on top of VAT. I got mine here (by clicking on this link and signing up for a card you will be waived a fee and I will get a bonus) or use voucher code 'rgeur'. You can get Euro and Dollar cards so with a bit of bickering with PWE support you should be able to change your billing to dollars as their system currently uses some sort of simple IP look up to determine which currency to charge in and it is prone to error.
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