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bvira
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
These are the problems that EVERYONE in the PvP community is aware of:
1) CW used to require skills to play (shard), but now they're just at-will spamming machines. Ray of Frost + Red Dragon Glyph + Storm Spell = Inevitable death.
2) HR's piercing blade. I just love how it can't even be dodged. One Fox shift = significant amount of your HP gone even if you dodge it or are damage immune (supposedly). It's broken like the pre-nerf Assailing Force.
3) GF: KV reflect build, build up huge amount of AP without getting hit. Holding their shields up and spam SoS every 10 seconds, if they're using red glyphs too then you're screwed.
Conclusion:
Piercing damage shouldn't exist in PvP. Glyphs should not be allowed to use in PvP. Devs should go play PvP themselves.
1) CW used to require skills to play (shard), but now they're just at-will spamming machines. Ray of Frost + Red Dragon Glyph + Storm Spell = Inevitable death.
2) HR's piercing blade. I just love how it can't even be dodged. One Fox shift = significant amount of your HP gone even if you dodge it or are damage immune (supposedly). It's broken like the pre-nerf Assailing Force.
3) GF: KV reflect build, build up huge amount of AP without getting hit. Holding their shields up and spam SoS every 10 seconds, if they're using red glyphs too then you're screwed.
Conclusion:
Piercing damage shouldn't exist in PvP. Glyphs should not be allowed to use in PvP. Devs should go play PvP themselves.
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Yep. You've identified the most problematic aspects of Mod 4 PvP.
Feedback:
For CW: diminish the amount of damage that comes from proccs/dots, and add damage to encounters that require some skill to land.
For HR: make piercing respect most damage mitigation or remove it and/or add damage to encounters
For GF: fix that super troll build. You can go into GG with a GF + 1 CW, run to enemy point and instantly kill 10+ people with the reflect damage + an OF and still have 90-100% HP.
1 : Yes this is annoying how much guaranteed damage they have now, but with the chill change I think that a feat rework to make it so they can either go high damage or high control will suffice. Im sick of being controlled for 4-5 seconds then dropped by a ice knife from 100% hp, maybe its just the damage scaling on ice knife is too high.
2 : Piercing damage will be fixed eventually, It hurts but I can still kill Hr's with a bit of luck getting off a takedown (I'm a gwf) it'd be cool if it was just undeflectable but still hit DR, or the other way round (deflectable but unaffected by DR) , Can HR's lifesteal on this damage? , if they made the piercing damage as a seperate source that didnt get lifesteal from maybe that fix some of the current "HR SUPER TANK" hate they are getting
3 : I'm more annoyed about the screenshake and the graphics slowdown than the actual damage and free AP. the "lag factor" makes fighting back near impossible.
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
HR: reduce the damage of PB or make it resistable
GF: disable AP gain while SoS is active
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you keep posting these... please stop.
are they even on topic?
the language is in cyrillic... this is an english forum.
the forums are not a place to report bad behavior.
send me a PM if you need more clarification.
I wonder how devs in their heads thought some of the changes would be good... lol
Yes all points are valid and one can think of some adjustments.
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
100% spot on -- PvP would be a big step in the balanced direction with these things changed.
PvP would also be way more fun!
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I'm sure you've gotten far contracting chinese devs to build your game but you might not want to cut corners on design and community engagement.
With about 40k HP SoT boss can still OHK me with his knifes (and the others too, but they just nearly never hit) shield off and even with shield on he just might. Shield means even less damage output with one less encounter and this is actually even worse in IWD with large mobs of encounter enemies that are slow to kill even now, hit really hard and come in large groups.
I agree that CW was nicer to play before the 4th installation, but nerfing damage from at-wills would need to increase encounter damage or shorten their cooldowns. Also from PvP perspective there really isn't that many CWs dominating the top spots, so the nerf or whatever you call it was successful.