First off, i'd like to say I do enjoy this game, but sometimes I do get hit with major WTF moments. I can deal with most of em though, its a free to play game after all, and I don't expect any "free handouts" sort to speak. But today, I am going to say : Seriously Cryptic/PWE?!
What happened you may wonder? Well i got a bonus level. Its my third in a row without being awarded a power point, something I was hoping I would get this time around. So what exactly did I receive for a reward? I was "rewarded" with 5x RANK 3(!!!) Enchantments! Now who in the burning hells decided that this was a valid reward?! I would really like to know.
This so called "reward" is bested by things you get regularly in the open world, such as profession nodes, chests, drops from normal monsters and so on and so forth.
In short, what I got today was nothing but a slap in the face, what i got today was the impression of the developers laughing in my face, what I got today was down and right a blow below the belt. It was quite a sickening experience.
As stated earlier, I don't expect free handouts, but this has gotta be the most pathetic excuse for a "reward" that I've come across throughout my 17 years of playing MMO's regularly. You guys seriously hit a new kind of low with this one.
Don't call something a reward if it's not going to be one, don't touch ideas like this.. Rank 3 enchantments are not a reward! I'm going to repeat that one more time. Rank 3 enchantments are not a reward! And I'll also add that neither are rank 4 enchantments.
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abishai3705Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 40
edited September 2014
It's more than you used to get past level 60. It may be a bit dissapointing to get the occasional peridot "reward" or 3X rank 3's but it is like any drop you get in the game, sometimes you hit payday and sometimes you get nothing. The reality is you didn't have to do ANY extra work to get the enchantment. In my eyes, that is a bonus reward no matter how small it is.
I have see WAY worse WTF moments than this!
Abishai the Blessed - 60 Sun Elf DC
Shazaam - 60 Tiefling CW
Link - 60 Menzoberranzan Renegade (Drow) HR
Naruto - 60 Half-Orc TR
Moose - 60 Human GWF
T-Wrecks 60 Half-Orc GF
Drag King - 60 Dragonborn SW
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited September 2014
This is what you call a "slap in the face"?
They're random. You used to get nothing. Now sometimes you randomly get something good, and sometimes you get a teensy weensy bit of refinement fodder. Eventually you will have all your powers maxed out if you keep playing long enough, and then you will *never* be able to get a power point again.
There's no point in grinding for post-60 level rewards, because it's mostly going to be a peridot. But you're getting XP from doing campaigns anyway, so the fact that you get anything at all is better than it used to be.
Much worse things have been done than not giving you something uber-spectacular every time you fill up the XP bucket due to stuff you were going to do anyway.
While it is kind of stupid to get rubbish rewards, as others have said, it's better to get something than the nothing we used to have. And it's way better than the 5x cost increase of lessers and 4x increase of normal regular enchantments eg fey blessings. Also it being free2play does not give it any excuse. They made that business decision to make money, not because they're generous people wanting to give to gamers. If something is messed up. It deserves criticism just the same.
Nonetheless, power points are not guaranteed with any EXP reward. You may get one, you may not, and you are only allowed up to 20 via this method. Other rewards are player and companion EXP books (which if I recall are BtA so they may be transferred to another character on your account), a small amount of rAD (5,000) or other rewards which I cannot remember at this time.
That being said, I'll allow this discussion so long as it does not devolve into flaming the company. Feedback is fine but please do keep it constructive, as per the Rules of Conduct, specifically rule 3.15 and section I.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited September 2014
Only allowed up to 20 is because then all your powers are maxed out so it would be silly for the game to keep awarding them.
XP books are account-bound and can be transferred.
Rewards I can recall:
6 random rank 3s
3 random rank 4s
peridot
aquamarine
5k rough AD
random enchantment shard (any of the originals, not Sharandar ones iirc)
XP tomes (2 companion and 1 player?)
Any of these rewards may also come with a power point. I don't think you ever get the power point by itself, so it's in addition to the other random reward.
I wouldn't use those power points if you don't need them, you never know when they suddenly change powers or evenremove/introduce new ones..without a power reset.
Nonetheless, power points are not guaranteed with any EXP reward. You may get one, you may not, and you are only allowed up to 20 via this method. Other rewards are player and companion EXP books (which if I recall are BtA so they may be transferred to another character on your account), a small amount of rAD (5,000) or other rewards which I cannot remember at this time.
That being said, I'll allow this discussion so long as it does not devolve into flaming the company. Feedback is fine but please do keep it constructive, as per the Rules of Conduct, specifically rule 3.15 and section I.
What he is saying is "rank 3" enchants are not in the same league as the other rewards. Why would someone put that in the loot table for the post 60 advancement. No one that is level 60 has a use for rank 3 enchants. The other awards are 5000AD, a random enchantment fragment, rank 4 enchants, Peridots.
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chaoscourtesanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited September 2014
They absolutely decreased power points as a reward. I don't like that they did it, but whatever. I finally got one today. I was enjoying filling in the little radio buttons. XD
Anyway, I'll take whatever comes out of it, and say thank ya.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
They absolutely decreased power points as a reward.
I have no clue how anyone could be sure of this, considering that it's random, but I might manage to fill the XP bucket on a character every couple of weeks so whatever.
I have no clue how anyone could be sure of this, considering that it's random, but I might manage to fill the XP bucket on a character every couple of weeks so whatever.
Because I have 14 chars each with a rank 7 azure in every util slot, who have been grinding it with purpose since they released it. I was keeping track, as getting all powers enabled is a goal of mine. (Some people collect costumes, titles, and pets.. I care nothing for collecting those things.) At minimum, prior to Mod 4, I was getting one every 3 turn-overs, on every character.
I've turned every character over at least twice since mod4 came out and have received 1.
Is it possible that I am wrong? Sure.. But it would be a huge and broad, amazing coincidence of ill-fortune.
I fill the xp bucket about every two to three days.
Edit: aww just forget I said anything. I didn't come here to argue. (Not directed at anyone in particular, but I can see people want to disagree.. whatever.)
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited September 2014
See, now you're backing up your statement by giving the full facts, and I was saying that I didn't have nearly enough data to make any conclusions of my own. I do sometimes get the impression that they've managed to implement some kind of diminishing returns though, where the game weighs the likelihood of you getting a power point by how recently you got one, so I might get proportionately more as a result of not purposely grinding for them. But that might also just be some BS that's all in my mind.
chaoscourtesanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited September 2014
Well, apologies if I came across as peeved, Becky. I did feel a little like what I was saying was being dismissed as another RNG whine.
It was just an observation. I would have started my own thread if I took actual issue with it.
Truth to tell- when they started this, and I saw how fast my power selections were getting filled in.. I was like 'I can't believe they are allowing this! What swell guys!' hahaha
I would have released it at a lower rate than they initially did myself.. but I would have also set expectations by saying something like.. 'And if you are REALLY lucky, you may find yourself rewarded with an additional power point to distribute!'
Cuz while I am always happy to get extra AD, I would be more than happy to trade a stack of peridots, r4 enchants, tomes of xp and 5K AD bonuses for a power point.. XD
EDIT- Oh.. I neglected to mention.. since mod4, more than anything, I have been getting roughly an equal mix of enchantment shards and 5K AD bonuses. Probably most players would prefer that!
Rhyon Cawdorian GWF | Opa Loka TR | Cormac Argentus III DC | Annika Thornblade GF | Aerys Skydark HR | Bartin Findlor TR | Aellia Baalthrall CW | Lucan Hawkmoon CW | Opa Brahk GWF | Korzbyrk DC | Den Kruk GWF | Jherek Skarsin CW |
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I have see WAY worse WTF moments than this!
Shazaam - 60 Tiefling CW
Link - 60 Menzoberranzan Renegade (Drow) HR
Naruto - 60 Half-Orc TR
Moose - 60 Human GWF
T-Wrecks 60 Half-Orc GF
Drag King - 60 Dragonborn SW
They're random. You used to get nothing. Now sometimes you randomly get something good, and sometimes you get a teensy weensy bit of refinement fodder. Eventually you will have all your powers maxed out if you keep playing long enough, and then you will *never* be able to get a power point again.
There's no point in grinding for post-60 level rewards, because it's mostly going to be a peridot. But you're getting XP from doing campaigns anyway, so the fact that you get anything at all is better than it used to be.
Much worse things have been done than not giving you something uber-spectacular every time you fill up the XP bucket due to stuff you were going to do anyway.
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That being said, I'll allow this discussion so long as it does not devolve into flaming the company. Feedback is fine but please do keep it constructive, as per the Rules of Conduct, specifically rule 3.15 and section I.
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XP books are account-bound and can be transferred.
Rewards I can recall:
6 random rank 3s
3 random rank 4s
peridot
aquamarine
5k rough AD
random enchantment shard (any of the originals, not Sharandar ones iirc)
XP tomes (2 companion and 1 player?)
Any of these rewards may also come with a power point. I don't think you ever get the power point by itself, so it's in addition to the other random reward.
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What he is saying is "rank 3" enchants are not in the same league as the other rewards. Why would someone put that in the loot table for the post 60 advancement. No one that is level 60 has a use for rank 3 enchants. The other awards are 5000AD, a random enchantment fragment, rank 4 enchants, Peridots.
Anyway, I'll take whatever comes out of it, and say thank ya.
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I have no clue how anyone could be sure of this, considering that it's random, but I might manage to fill the XP bucket on a character every couple of weeks so whatever.
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Because I have 14 chars each with a rank 7 azure in every util slot, who have been grinding it with purpose since they released it. I was keeping track, as getting all powers enabled is a goal of mine. (Some people collect costumes, titles, and pets.. I care nothing for collecting those things.) At minimum, prior to Mod 4, I was getting one every 3 turn-overs, on every character.
I've turned every character over at least twice since mod4 came out and have received 1.
Is it possible that I am wrong? Sure.. But it would be a huge and broad, amazing coincidence of ill-fortune.
I fill the xp bucket about every two to three days.
Edit: aww just forget I said anything. I didn't come here to argue. (Not directed at anyone in particular, but I can see people want to disagree.. whatever.)
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It was just an observation. I would have started my own thread if I took actual issue with it.
Truth to tell- when they started this, and I saw how fast my power selections were getting filled in.. I was like 'I can't believe they are allowing this! What swell guys!' hahaha
I would have released it at a lower rate than they initially did myself.. but I would have also set expectations by saying something like.. 'And if you are REALLY lucky, you may find yourself rewarded with an additional power point to distribute!'
Cuz while I am always happy to get extra AD, I would be more than happy to trade a stack of peridots, r4 enchants, tomes of xp and 5K AD bonuses for a power point.. XD
EDIT- Oh.. I neglected to mention.. since mod4, more than anything, I have been getting roughly an equal mix of enchantment shards and 5K AD bonuses. Probably most players would prefer that!
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