Really because you still need to get resources (blades, seeds, etc). You're going to be running that area for awhile anyway. Those boxes give you the crescents and the sparks. It will speed that area up a bit.
The thing is, the opportunity cost you potentially lose out on when choosing that box over the coal ward box. Because the drop rate is so low for coal wards now though, It may cancel it out.
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Its really up to you. They will speed up that campaign, but you may miss out on free coal wards (if the RNGesus blesses you)
EDIT: O the guy cleared what it drops, sparks and the thayan scrolls.
PS once done with campaign needs/wants the sparks can help you create more feywild blessing enchants which are nice for RP or just getting enchants, so it does have that added benefit.
zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
edited August 2014
On my pre-level 60 characters, I always take these when I hit 6 Celestial Coins. This way, when they do hit 60, all I really need to work on is getting them geared to get into Icewind Dale. As well, I claim these on my level 60's that still don't have three boons in Dread Ring. I don't ever claim the Sharandar box from it, just the Dread Ring.
The reason is that with the Sharandar one, you'd still need to do the area's dailies to unlock the boons, where as with the Dread Ring ones, you do not. When those characters get their first three boons (to get into IWD), I then start collecting the Coffers of Wondrous Augmentation on them. Basically, by doing this, I am gaining an extra day every 6 days, in respect towards progress on the DR boons.
Yes, because it's a day off Sharandar, and those get REALLY ANNOYING after the first 2 weeks or so.
3 days off*. You get 30 sparks. The spark requirement is ridiculous and the campaign treasures is pretty much required unless you're into punishment (I don't judge). Also 2 of them is enough to give you a lesser fey blessing, however I hate sharandar so much that I'd even skip doing the weekly and 1 rotation of dailies a week because the area was just so painfully boring to complete.
Sharandar progression:
Plant seedlings to unlock the ability to unlock the 2nd area (wut...ok)> get 90 sparks for next area>do 9 days of dailies to unlock the ability to unlock the 3rd area (wut again)>150 sparks for unlocking the last area (ok it's a little high but nvm)
And then you have the boon progression.
Ok lets get crescents right away and unlock the first 2 boons day 1> wait a month to unlock the 3rd boon (wait what, really?)> wait 2 weeks for the 4th boon>wait 2 weeks for 5th boon.
During the time from the 3rd boon to the 5th boon you're doing many weeks of the same dailies over and over. It's just such a horrible experience. Did I say that I hate sharandar yet?
For DR you just need to do the dungeon every day. No biggy. Wouldn't waste the box for that, for sharandar you're heavily limited on your sparks.
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For DR you just need to do the dungeon every day. No biggy. Wouldn't waste the box for that, for sharandar you're heavily limited on your sparks.
Yeah, that's reasonable if you do them everyday. I do not however, as sometimes all I can do is log in, invoke and queue up professions. By taking the DR box, I am able to keep progressing in my DR boons even when I am not able to "play." Whereas if I take the Sharandar ones, I'd still need to grind just as many days that I missed for all the other items needed besides the Sparks.
Also, I actually don't mind running Sharandar when I have the time, as it remains one of my favorite Zones so far. I love FR Elves, Eladrin, their lore and the Feywild, so Sharandar just adds to my geek-out factor. Whispering Caverns and Rothé Valley are also two of my favorites but that's not related to the Sharandar Campaign.
I hope they update these coffers though to include IWD and ToD also.
After a certain point, you don't need to do dailies in shar anymore. You can, but you can also just wait and knock them all out in 3 days per boon (doing 3 per area, so 9 a day).
Combining days of just running in, killing some redcaps for crystals, and these boxes really takes the edge off. It means it goes faster and you only really have 3 annoying days per boon.
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
After a certain point, you don't need to do dailies in shar anymore. You can, but you can also just wait and knock them all out in 3 days per boon (doing 3 per area, so 9 a day).
Combining days of just running in, killing some redcaps for crystals, and these boxes really takes the edge off. It means it goes faster and you only really have 3 annoying days per boon.
Yeah, that's how I run Sharandar on my 60's that already have three boons in there or DR. I collect all the dailies from all three areas, regardless if I need them or not, until I have them all and then I knock them out in about 45 minutes. The reason I do all the areas is mainly because I am a Companion collector and always have a companion that needs leveling and these dailies are quick and great for that.
Dread Ring, while I like it... I don't love it like I do Sharandar. I've never cared much for Thay and often wished the Simbul would just go in and destroy the capitol and Szass Tam. In my PnP Campaign, most of the Faerun region is at war with Thay and has been pretty much decimated it with only Tyraturos still standing, where Szass Tam struggles to find fresh bodies to inhabit.
3 days off*. You get 30 sparks. The spark requirement is ridiculous and the campaign treasures is pretty much required unless you're into punishment (I don't judge). Also 2 of them is enough to give you a lesser fey blessing, however I hate sharandar so much that I'd even skip doing the weekly and 1 rotation of dailies a week because the area was just so painfully boring to complete.
Sharandar is boring as hell so I always get chests in order to speed it up a bit. Dread Ring is not bad at all, because you basically only need to run the lairs and you get your free peridots and a greater mark that can be used to refine your artifacts. You can also get the Eye of Lathander artifact (I got 8 so far in 3 different characters).
Ok it all sounds very interesting but still unclear since I am not level 60 yet and I am just at the beginning of Tyranny of Dragons and haven't unlocked the Sharandar yet. However I was wondering since I have 7 characters if I can transfer the loot of the chests to my main character.
Thanks for the help
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
Ok it all sounds very interesting but still unclear since I am not level 60 yet and I am just at the beginning of Tyranny of Dragons and haven't unlocked the Sharandar yet. However I was wondering since I have 7 characters if I can transfer the loot of the chests to my main character.
Thanks for the help
For the Campaign Coffer (6-day), no. Those and their contents are character bound. However, for the Coffers of Wondrous Augmentation (7-day), the Coffer and their contents are Account Bound.
Yes that's what he said heh. The 7 day one. Not the 6 day.
Also as you see the opinions differ from individual to individual. It's really up to you. Id have to agree to speed up Dread ring to get to IWD, it would probably be a good idea. Sharandar, while most people loathe it (I for 1 really liked that area and wish they had put a dragon to fight there), you're stuck there because of the charms, blades, etc etc. So it does speed that area up, but you're still gonna have to grind some of that junk out.
so at the end which one is more useful?
Cache of dread ring treasures vs cache of sharandar treasures?
Sharandar by far its 3 days of questing.. dr you only need to do one quest for 31 total days and you never have to go back if you dont want to. (this means you will have to get scrips vs onxy turn in, but easily doable.)
The spark requirements are harsh in sharandar.
Its always worth it to get this and forgo the 7 day ones, until you open up everything and get all boons.. then swap over to the 7 day ones afterwards.. btw after 3-4 (now 5) toons and almost 11 months of total play time, ive yet to win one cward on 7 day coffers, but others have.. so rng for you.
You will save so much more time doing it this way and shave off probably a week or more worth of questing requirements, on a much time consuming area vs getting the dread ring ones, which is just one mini lair a day to get what you need.
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reagenlionel1Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
Its less worthwhile to bother with the sharandar box over the DR box. Especially since they halved the amount of sparks you get from it recently. Cutting it from 60 to 30.
I always get the 6 day and get dread ring on my characters. the 7 day isnt even remotely worth it. 7 days for a crappy rank 4 or a peridot, with the occasional pres ward is bleh. Wouldnt even bother hoping for a coal ward. Its more of a waste than it is anything you couldnt get within half an hour anyway.
To recap...
cache of sharandar treasures are more useful than Cache of dread ring treasures, right?
Thanks
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adinosiiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,294Arc User
edited August 2014
On my alts that have unlocked all the boons both in Sharandar and DR, I always get the Sharandar box, as it speeds up getting a Lesser Fey Blessing, which is really nice - either for refining or selling, depending on the price.
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Really because you still need to get resources (blades, seeds, etc). You're going to be running that area for awhile anyway. Those boxes give you the crescents and the sparks. It will speed that area up a bit.
The thing is, the opportunity cost you potentially lose out on when choosing that box over the coal ward box. Because the drop rate is so low for coal wards now though, It may cancel it out.
.
Its really up to you. They will speed up that campaign, but you may miss out on free coal wards (if the RNGesus blesses you)
EDIT: O the guy cleared what it drops, sparks and the thayan scrolls.
PS once done with campaign needs/wants the sparks can help you create more feywild blessing enchants which are nice for RP or just getting enchants, so it does have that added benefit.
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The reason is that with the Sharandar one, you'd still need to do the area's dailies to unlock the boons, where as with the Dread Ring ones, you do not. When those characters get their first three boons (to get into IWD), I then start collecting the Coffers of Wondrous Augmentation on them. Basically, by doing this, I am gaining an extra day every 6 days, in respect towards progress on the DR boons.
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3 days off*. You get 30 sparks. The spark requirement is ridiculous and the campaign treasures is pretty much required unless you're into punishment (I don't judge). Also 2 of them is enough to give you a lesser fey blessing, however I hate sharandar so much that I'd even skip doing the weekly and 1 rotation of dailies a week because the area was just so painfully boring to complete.
Sharandar progression:
Plant seedlings to unlock the ability to unlock the 2nd area (wut...ok)> get 90 sparks for next area>do 9 days of dailies to unlock the ability to unlock the 3rd area (wut again)>150 sparks for unlocking the last area (ok it's a little high but nvm)
And then you have the boon progression.
Ok lets get crescents right away and unlock the first 2 boons day 1> wait a month to unlock the 3rd boon (wait what, really?)> wait 2 weeks for the 4th boon>wait 2 weeks for 5th boon.
During the time from the 3rd boon to the 5th boon you're doing many weeks of the same dailies over and over. It's just such a horrible experience. Did I say that I hate sharandar yet?
For DR you just need to do the dungeon every day. No biggy. Wouldn't waste the box for that, for sharandar you're heavily limited on your sparks.
Also, I actually don't mind running Sharandar when I have the time, as it remains one of my favorite Zones so far. I love FR Elves, Eladrin, their lore and the Feywild, so Sharandar just adds to my geek-out factor. Whispering Caverns and Rothé Valley are also two of my favorites but that's not related to the Sharandar Campaign.
I hope they update these coffers though to include IWD and ToD also.
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Combining days of just running in, killing some redcaps for crystals, and these boxes really takes the edge off. It means it goes faster and you only really have 3 annoying days per boon.
Dread Ring, while I like it... I don't love it like I do Sharandar. I've never cared much for Thay and often wished the Simbul would just go in and destroy the capitol and Szass Tam. In my PnP Campaign, most of the Faerun region is at war with Thay and has been pretty much decimated it with only Tyraturos still standing, where Szass Tam struggles to find fresh bodies to inhabit.
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Sharandar is boring as hell so I always get chests in order to speed it up a bit. Dread Ring is not bad at all, because you basically only need to run the lairs and you get your free peridots and a greater mark that can be used to refine your artifacts. You can also get the Eye of Lathander artifact (I got 8 so far in 3 different characters).
Thanks for the help
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Also as you see the opinions differ from individual to individual. It's really up to you. Id have to agree to speed up Dread ring to get to IWD, it would probably be a good idea. Sharandar, while most people loathe it (I for 1 really liked that area and wish they had put a dragon to fight there), you're stuck there because of the charms, blades, etc etc. So it does speed that area up, but you're still gonna have to grind some of that junk out.
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Oh Wonder - Without You
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
- Dylan Thomas
Cache of dread ring treasures vs cache of sharandar treasures?
Sharandar by far its 3 days of questing.. dr you only need to do one quest for 31 total days and you never have to go back if you dont want to. (this means you will have to get scrips vs onxy turn in, but easily doable.)
The spark requirements are harsh in sharandar.
Its always worth it to get this and forgo the 7 day ones, until you open up everything and get all boons.. then swap over to the 7 day ones afterwards.. btw after 3-4 (now 5) toons and almost 11 months of total play time, ive yet to win one cward on 7 day coffers, but others have.. so rng for you.
You will save so much more time doing it this way and shave off probably a week or more worth of questing requirements, on a much time consuming area vs getting the dread ring ones, which is just one mini lair a day to get what you need.
I always get the 6 day and get dread ring on my characters. the 7 day isnt even remotely worth it. 7 days for a crappy rank 4 or a peridot, with the occasional pres ward is bleh. Wouldnt even bother hoping for a coal ward. Its more of a waste than it is anything you couldnt get within half an hour anyway.
This way takes a lot longer in terms of total RL days elapsed, but is much faster in terms of in-game time.
cache of sharandar treasures are more useful than Cache of dread ring treasures, right?
Thanks