i just trained a dolphin to play cw

f2pma · August 2014

well it took me entire 2 days to train him but it was worth it.
he can beat any pvp player except few cw.
most difficult part was to teach him to press 4 buttons in the same order each second.
but it works better then i hoped.
flipper uses steal time,icy terrain,coi and icy rays and he likes to use sing for some reason but i dont let him so he usess opressive with dc arti and all the pots.
flipper is crazy consinstent and caps like crazy.
some will say this is animal abuse but hes the one abusing pugs hehehe.
soon im posting some pvp vidz and
all cws orca killer whale premade is coming soon to

godlysoul2 · August 2014

Reading this made me happy inside

dodgo · August 2014

best post ever. if i could be bothered i would create a poll with this post x 3 vote.

also props on the abusername x

chaoscourtesan · August 2014

That is totally awesome! I am currently training a brown recluse spider to incessantly whine on the forums. Whining spider, FTW! Hooah.

Update.. Rethinking this. I thought he would be a posting beast, with eight legs and all... turns out he can't get any leverage. It's one character at a time.. I'm going to try a fiddler crab, and if that doesn't pan out, will go with the octopus. Was really hoping not to have to invest in water-proof net gear.

rotatorkuf · August 2014

calling animal protection services...

devaneio · August 2014

This is why I still come to this forum

user4035 · August 2014

I don't understand what your talking about.

I have a control wizard and i'm getting destroyed in pvp. I just don't get how people are saying the class is overpowered.
Its probably worse than it was in modual 3!

aulduron · August 2014

You a renegade?

pandora1x · August 2014

user4035 wrote: »

I don't understand what your talking about.

I have a control wizard and i'm getting destroyed in pvp. I just don't get how people are saying the class is overpowered.
Its probably worse than it was in modual 3!

You're probably a poverty Renegade which was reduced to being the group's B*tch lol.

Stop being a hipster and go Oppressor or Thaum

If you aren't a Renegade then you simply do not know how to play lol.

dodgo · August 2014

pandora1x wrote: »

You're probably a poverty Renegade which was reduced to being the group's B*tch lol.

Stop being a hipster and go Oppressor or Thaum

If you aren't a Renegade then you simply do not know how to play lol.

lol renegades are hipsters

oicidraz · August 2014

now train him to play as a dc and succed and u have my word u will be the best animal trainer ever.

pando83 · August 2014

Dolphins are actually quite intelligent. Elephants too but They can't press keyboard buttons. Use a hamster. The poor little things are like super-dumb.

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hefisdo · August 2014

Soon:

Twitch Plays CW

xtraordinary91 · August 2014

Did anyone else think of other animals and automatically think about a T-Rex? (Extinct I know). But still. Come on, he can't even reach the keys...

godhric · August 2014

This thread is neither constructive nor respectful. Thread is closed. :x

rustlord · August 2014

godhric wrote: »

This thread is neither constructive nor respectful. Thread is closed. :x

Now say that again. With feelings his time.

abecassis · August 2014

godhric wrote: »

This thread is neither constructive nor respectful. Thread is closed. :x

but its funny

magiquepurse · August 2014

f2pma wrote: »

well it took me entire 2 days to train him but it was worth it.
he can beat any pvp player except few cw.
most difficult part was to teach him to press 4 buttons in the same order each second.
but it works better then i hoped.
flipper uses steal time,icy terrain,coi and icy rays and he likes to use sing for some reason but i dont let him so he usess opressive with dc arti and all the pots.
flipper is crazy consinstent and caps like crazy.
some will say this is animal abuse but hes the one abusing pugs hehehe.
soon im posting some pvp vidz and
all cws orca killer whale premade is coming soon to

Del, flipper could use only Shield and just jump around, cause your TR is so bad it would die from Fey Thistle reflects.

Now go hire a personal TR trainer instead of crying in the forums that CWs poo on you all day.

burkaanc · August 2014

user4035 wrote: »

I don't understand what your talking about.

I have a control wizard and i'm getting destroyed in pvp. I just don't get how people are saying the class is overpowered.
Its probably worse than it was in modual 3!

so you are worse than a dolphin

velynna · August 2014

oicidraz wrote: »

now train him to play as a dc and succed and u have my word u will be the best animal trainer ever.

Don't make Flipper do the impossible

mconosrep · August 2014

burkaanc wrote: »

so you are worse than a dolphin

Well according to a very rough comparison an average Dolphin has an IQ of around 67:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_dolphin%27s_IQ

so ....

almightybizzo · August 2014

I fell asleep on my keyboard and woke up to 7 wins in pvp on my CW before my drool shorted the keyboard out. My question is...how do you waterproof your keyboard? I'm on page 5 in the leader boards and I'm hoping to get to page 1 during my afternoon nap.

PS: funny post, Del! gg. wp.

meldan3n · August 2014

f2pma wrote: »

well it took me entire 2 days to train him but it was worth it.
he can beat any pvp player except few cw.
most difficult part was to teach him to press 4 buttons in the same order each second.
but it works better then i hoped.
flipper uses steal time,icy terrain,coi and icy rays and he likes to use sing for some reason but i dont let him so he usess opressive with dc arti and all the pots.
flipper is crazy consinstent and caps like crazy.
some will say this is animal abuse but hes the one abusing pugs hehehe.
soon im posting some pvp vidz and
all cws orca killer whale premade is coming soon to

These are the threads causing imbalances and drama in the community. That's why people posting stuff like this get insta-ban in forums of real MMOs (Wildstar, for examlpe).

P.S.: Learn to play.

mugiwarac · August 2014

meldan3n wrote: »

These are the threads causing imbalances and drama in the community. That's why people posting stuff like this get insta-ban in forums of real MMOs (Wildstar, for examlpe).

P.S.: Learn to play.

EXACTLY!

this game was perfectly balanced after beta! it became unbalanced the moment devs started listening to those kind of basement kids with too much time to spend complaining on gaming forums, making multiple accounts and raging their asses off against other classes. this is how the tr got killed. the nerfs were never necessary.

in every normal game it is the moderator team's responsibility to prevent those 'raging waves' caused by one or two people with 10 or more accounts. too bad the moderators on these forums are not paid for a full-time job to do this and the devs are fed false information by crying kids with multiple accounts.

iamannoyingdevil · August 2014

So what? I trained an amoeba to play as a GWF for module 3 , it's good to know it still takes at least some iq to play CW , my amoeba is a single celled organism with no iq and he still managed to spam Roar and unstoppable .

rayrdan · August 2014

meldan3n wrote: »

These are the threads causing imbalances and drama in the community. That's why people posting stuff like this get insta-ban in forums of real MMOs (Wildstar, for examlpe).

P.S.: Learn to play.

learn to play what?
1) CC chain is unstoppable
2) your damage is based on burst and proc of thing i cant do nothing against it that hit from 3 to 9k with laughable cooldown.
3) shield makes you tanky as a gwf.

there is no learn to play cause there is no counterplay.

however this is a good occasion to roll a cw and i m doing it.

meldan3n · August 2014

rayrdan wrote: »

learn to play what?
1) CC chain is unstoppable
2) your damage is based on burst and proc of thing i cant do nothing against it that hit from 3 to 9k with laughable cooldown.
3) shield makes you tanky as a gwf.

there is no learn to play cause there is no counterplay.

however this is a good occasion to roll a cw and i m doing it.

1) Don't get into a CC chain. If you're a GWF CC chain doesn't matter to you (Unstoppable) and you have to miss all your encounters in order to not kill the CW before he starts another rotation.
2) You're not supposed to tank the CW. You're supposed to fight back. In order to make those things proc, the CW has to stand in one spot and press a button.
3) No. Certain GWF builds one-shot CWs with shield (30k IBS). I'm not even gonna mention HRs who just have to get 1 rotation on a CW in order to destroy him. And that's the problem. People are not crying about the REAL OP classes (HR/GWF). They're crying about the CW that got a little more viable, because they can't make them fall to the ground from just looking at them anymore. A good HR will absolute destroy any CW. Same goes for a GWF. Therefore, my "learn to play" statement.

A little "guide" I posted in another thread:

meldan3n wrote: »

Powers of the "OP" CW and an instruction on how to beat them:

Eye of the Storm: Guaranteed crits for 6 seconds. After it's over, 20 seconds ICD. Know that in the beginning of a fight, a CW has it ready. Make sure you CC him or force him to move. You HAVE TO dodge Entangling Force. This power only matters at the start of a fight. After that, the CW will be in constant movement, so it won't matter much.
Shield: When the CW has a Shield (this shiny sphere-like thing around him), make sure you "touch" him with an At-Will first to destabilize it, or your first hit won't deal any damage. Now, if you're an HR, it might as well be Disruptive Shot.
Ray of Frost: Procs Storm Spell and Assailant like crazy. Gives you a Chill Stacks with every "tick". Freezes you at 6 Chill Stacks. You can see the Chill Stacks and the number on your debuff bar. All stacks are also refreshed immediately at 6.
Entangling Force: Death to anyone but GWF. Once you're caught in it, you can be frozen for a whole rotation. If this happens at the beginning of a fight and the CW has an Ice Knife, you're probably dead (because of Eye of the Storm), unless you're a GWF who can go Unstoppable. Once you're in Entangling Force, the CW will go full Ray of Frost on you. ~9 - 10 sec cooldown. Make sure to count it while fighting to know when the CW has it ready.
Icy Rays: Now, here's the deal. You can't dodge it. Unless you're CC-immune, there's nothing you can do about it. But it doesn't STUN you. So you can still attack. The deadly combo is Icy Rays + Entangling Force, since you won't be able to dodge it anymore. When a CW casts Icy Rays, he is rooted and kinda stunned himself for ~1 - 2 sec. The casting starts with a mark over your head and a *ding* sound. This is the moment to stun the CW, so he can't chain his Entangling Force (Disruptive Shot). Once you've done that, the CW's rotation is broken and you can **** him.
Chill Strike: Very easy to dodge due to the very long casting animation. It will only hit you when you're CC'ed.
Ice Knife: Extremely easy to dodge (long animation, *ding ding* sound way before the Ice Knife hits you).
Icy Terrain: Don't stay in it unless you wanna die. It's way smaller than a node, so there should be no problem avoiding it. If you are a GWF, you might have to move over it. Just know that it procs Assailant and has the same effect on you as Ray of Frost (freeze at 6 Chill Stacks). Don't walk over it without Unstoppable.

This is all you need to know. Never get in a CW's CC rotation. Make sure the CW loses his EotS in the beginning of the fight. If you're a GWF, spam your Unstoppable. If you're a TR who got caught right in the beginning, go ITC. "Touch" the CW once before attacking (3x in case of Barkshield). Always know if the CW has an Entangling Force ready (count his cooldown when you see him use it). He will not have enough time to freeze you just from the At-Will (you will be all over him before he can reach 6 stacks of Chill on you). If you hear Icy Rays being casted, CC the CW immediately. If successful, destroy him!

Now, for the GWF it's easier (if he has practice against CWs). Go Unstoppable as soon as possible, run to the CW, destroy him. He's still the old squishy, just a little bit more tanky due to the Shield. "Yes, but all the dodges…" Go practice. There is a moment between dodges where you can catch the CW. Threatening Rush 1 - 2 times before you Frontline to make him dodge. Frontline. Then destroy him. If you can't do that constantly and the CW is "slipping" away, take a CW from your guild and go practice getting him between his dodges with Frontline. Use the new Sprint in your advantage. When you are too far away and the CW is casting Ray of Frost on you, watch your Chill Stacks. You get frozen at 6. Start sprinting when you're at 5. Freeze avoided.

I hope that will help a bit.

f2pma · August 2014

first of all let me thank all for kind comments and support.
i know it looks simple but it wasnt.
took months of planing and theory crafting until perfect animal - rotation was perfected
for example i used baby seals at first coz they learn fast but they lack the consistency.
after 2,3 rotation they would lose focus and in tigh situation when getting zergd they panicked coz after all they are not alfa predators.
but once i started with flipper all dots connected.

and just remeber one thing:
Its just a game plz dont sent hate mails to flipper.dolphins are sencitive creatures and can sence those kind of things
and most important FLIPPER LOVES YOU ALL

catalinr94 · August 2014

f2pma wrote: »

first of all let me thank all for kind comments and support.
i know its looks simple but it wasnt.
took months of planing and theory crafting until perfect animal - rotation was perfected
for example i used seal at first coz they learn fast but they lack the consistency.
after 2,3 rotation they would lose focus and in tigh situation when getting zergd they panicked coz after all they are not alfa predators

but just remeber one thing:
Its just a game and dont sent hate mails to flipper.dolphins are sencitive and can sence those kind of things
and most important FLIPPER LOVES YOU ALL

Can you ban this dude already?

l0th4ri0 · August 2014

LOL what happens when you guys realize the devs redesigned the freeze this way on purpose? Oh I am having "nerf permastealth" flashbacks big time right now!

There are a half-dozen threads about this all going at the same time, and they could get merged and no one would notice because it's all the same thing: "nerf permastealth" -- err, "permafreeze", or whatever.

I'll say this again: the devs did this ON PURPOSE.

In the same way that they made long stealth durations ON PURPOSE. There are several class features and feats and an entire paragon tree in the TR class dedicated to making the most out of a long-*** stealth duration and keeping it going.

Now there are several class features and feats and an entire paragon tree in the CW class dedicated to making the most of a long-*** freeze duration and keeping it going.

The damage aspect needs some tweaking (storm spell feature, etc.), but I think it's safe to say that the control powers of the control wizard are here to stay. It's up to you if you want to be like meldan3n and adapt or not. The forums could always use more whiners, after all... it's the QQ posts and the tears of guys that name their characters "HAMSTER Zerg MCswagpantsYOLO HAMSTER" that give the devs and moderators their fearsome magical powers and immortality.

i just trained a dolphin to play cw

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