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PvP, why does everyone call you a cheater when your well geared?
thorak257
Member Posts: 125 Arc User
Almost every match people call me a cheater in PvP, but I am perfectly legit. I am a GF equipped head-to-toe in PvP gear. My profound preserver armor gives me +30% to my guard meter and if you can't find a way to flank me I am almost indestructible.
Is profound preserver gear overpowered? I'm tired of being called a cheater. It's to the point where people are writing tickets because they think I'm cheating but I'm not.
I'm afraid to play anymore matches because I don't want to get banned.
Thorak
Sigh.
Is profound preserver gear overpowered? I'm tired of being called a cheater. It's to the point where people are writing tickets because they think I'm cheating but I'm not.
I'm afraid to play anymore matches because I don't want to get banned.
Thorak
Sigh.
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1. People getting their rear kicked in PvP usually accuse others of being 'Cheaters' if they can't oneshot the supposed 'cheater'.
2. There have been a couple of....issues regarding 'well geared' PvPers in the last few months. Lets say, some use EVERY edge they can do to get ahead, even those that are normally against the ToS of the game in question.
Don't be scared of getting banned. It's not a democracy, whenever a player should or not be banned, but an accusation which ended as being guilty. Even if 2000 players would report you as a cheater, if you didn't cheat (never used 3rd party software nor changed the client in any way) you'll never be banned.
The worse you'll end up with is having someone checking up the logs registries created during your play time. (everything every players are doing are registered in a bunch of logs files. Every damages, even movement, every skills uses and their effects... in other words, everything that have been confirmed by the server) if the numbers are impossible, that's when they investigate further and then will decide use or not the banhammer.
Even more, if someone is checking you accounts related logs every days because many people false-report you, you'll never see anything from it. If they do a mistake and do ban you because something unusual is in the log, you still can contact them to makes thing clear.
In other words, you didn't cheat? Then you don't have to be scared. You're actually more suspicious if you're scared of being banned. (Are you feeling guilty of something? No? Why being scared then?)
I was happier for my victories in mod3, but their number has noticeably increased in mod4, so I'll be taking quantity over quality for the moment, and you should do the same
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One match I find myself playing all new level 60's in blue gear
Next match all top end max enchants and artifacts 16k gS players with perfect wep and armor enchants
next is about even for me. (Grim gear, rank 7's minor wep and armor enchants if that much.) those matches usualy end with less than a 100 pt difference unless one or the other team is premades, or the queue did something silly like put 2 clerics on one side and two gf and a rogue and the other side is 2 SW 2 cw and a HR. Even those can be interesting.
I used to get frustrated, now I just consider it part of the arms race. I eat the losses and farm the gear. Often it feels like I will never catch up to the top players in terms of gear. and with the arms race and each new set of "top gear" coming out only those who play all the time and started a long time ago can be in top gear.
The fault lies at the heart of the queue, and the fix is simple.
1. Lock the gear you are wearing when you enter pvp areas
2. queues look at something (GS may not be optimal, but for example I will use it. I know ELO is no use and am 100% against it the way it is implemented) and then sort players into queue by gear. Then similar gear will fight similar gear, and wins or losses will be between skill, and optimizing gear for a particular bracket.
If someone doesn't set up their gear to take advantage of the bis for a particular bracket, gear will still matter, but assuming they do, then skill will decide matches.
Only do a leader board for each bracket, no over all, as it should be assumed that a 16k GS player will beat a 9.5k GS player by gear alone, and this will allow bragging rights and still play in the gear you like.
I have watched pre made vs pre made bis domination matches, they are not played like pug vs pug or pug vs premade.
Instead of roflstomps they are very calculated to eek out a few points to win like 1000 - 998 or so.
TL / DR to lazy to read
so long as widely varied gear is matched against each other, expect people to QQ
Since day one of "Player vs. Player gaming", after its invention sometime around 20 years ago, gamers have displayed the following tendencies:
(1) The gross majority of the PvP playerbase stays around what could be described as "newbie" level, in terms of skill
(2) Those gross majority of people, don't have a clue as to just how incredibly high that skill level could climb
(3) Those gross majority of people, therefore, have a high tendency to overestimate where they currently stand at
(4) Those gross majority of people, when faced with the truly skilled, display one of the following behaviors:
A. They realize just how much sucky they are, learn more about the game, and then start becoming better players
B. They refuse to accept reality, learn nothing about the game, start blaming the game for their own failures
I could probably destroy any average PuG grade competition in a 1vs1 scenario, and this level of skill is around page 30 of the leaderboards, which is around top 3% of the entire PvP playerbase -- yet, it means nothing when compared to really talented people. Even being at the "top 3%" is still merely average/mediocre in terms of competitive PvP, and usually the really, really talented players mark in at around top 0.1 ~ 0.5% of the playerbase. When compared to them, people like me are like one or two steps below them in skill level, and the rest "average grade players" who make up more than 90% of the PvP population, are like way, way down at the bottom of the food chain.
Most of them don't realize just how big the difference is, hence, they don't understand how some people can be so far ahead in terms of skill and performance.
In those cases, the only way they can describe what they cannot understand, is by using the word; "cheater" or "hacker".
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Just looking around some places you hear people talking about all sorts of less than ToS friendly activity that messed up PVP. Just things I have personally seen or heard would be guild banks full of perfect vorpal and the like or a few screen shots of people showing off less than legit activity. At some point it does get hard to tell what is the norm when you have pre-made after pre-made full of fully decked out guild members. Are they all cheaters? No, but it is near impossible to tell and gets very frustraiting for "causal" PVP people. I do not personally report because because it is tough to prove things one way or the other and I'd feel like a proper tool if I was wrong. Instead I just get my daily whenever I feel the need and then go about my day in PvE land.
With all that said it would be amazing if the queue system would just match all of these 18k+ GS folks with each other be them legit or not then they can whoop on each other instead of random people