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tehsig
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 54
I had the fortune of getting enough trade together to buy a Plated Con belt. I have so far put 500 kessels' sigils items into it, getting from rank 15 to nearly 29. FIVE HUNDRED ITEMS, clicked one at a time.
Any of you start refining these incredible belts? What's your opinion of this new grind? Is it everything you hoped and dreamed it would be? Oh, and I'm inundated with comments for being a dragonborn on a drake mount with the plated con belt and legendary dragonborn artifact. My rent is paid, my car is paid, my insurance is paid, my cable and electric are paid, and I have food in the pantry and fridge. If I want to justify a few hundred bucks investing in a new mod, that's my prerogative. However, I can't imagine how f2p players are ever going to complete these belts from a green drop off a dragon up to even purple.
Good luck to us all, and happy refining, ONE CLICK AT A TIME.
Any of you start refining these incredible belts? What's your opinion of this new grind? Is it everything you hoped and dreamed it would be? Oh, and I'm inundated with comments for being a dragonborn on a drake mount with the plated con belt and legendary dragonborn artifact. My rent is paid, my car is paid, my insurance is paid, my cable and electric are paid, and I have food in the pantry and fridge. If I want to justify a few hundred bucks investing in a new mod, that's my prerogative. However, I can't imagine how f2p players are ever going to complete these belts from a green drop off a dragon up to even purple.
Good luck to us all, and happy refining, ONE CLICK AT A TIME.
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can you imagine what is the right answer?
Can't refine a lot of items at once etc etc. I guess they want players to spend 3-hours on PE doing data entry work
500 kessels sigil?
Someone from Preview server said it was about 10m RP for full upgrade but lot of people think it's 3-4m RP. I still don't know if it's 10, 3 or 4m. Can anyone tell me what's the real value ?
The system designer wouldn't say exactly but he said it is roughly between 3 and 5 million RP.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?718751-Official-Feedback-Thread-Artifact-Equipment&p=8678251&viewfull=1#post8678251
Imagine the time to actually farm them the items.. HAHA.
After level 43 I decided that life is to short and precious, so I bought like 50 stacks of Peridots for 220k per stack. This artifact belt is like a black hole for your time and AD.
I think I ended up paying like 30m AD in total for the belt. Looking forward for the artifact weapon....
Wow, you can afford to spend 30 million on one item? You might be almost as rich as Trace......
When you have AD its easy to make more AD playing the Zen/AH market. Been playing since BETA.
But as a new player, there is no way to get these new stuff by just playing the game.
Well said mate.
The more AD you have the more you make, you just have to be smart when playing the AH.
Probably yes. There are several reasons the zen marker "crashed". The biggest would be that not enough players are actually buying zen for real money. There are so many more players in the game that buys zen with AD, so that the zen buyers cant possible cover all that.
A large part of these players are using the zen store to make AD. They keep buying zen items and selling them overpriced for AD in AH to make profit and all the profit is used to buy even more zen. Its working out very well for these players since it takes up to two weeks to actually get the zen from ZAX. The more zen you have, the more AD you can make from those players who cant wait two weeks for their zen. Its not against the rules doing this and that's how the market works.
We also have all the players that wants keys and other items from the zen store and probably some exploiters too that buys ZEN for all the AD. I'm not sure how big part they have in this tho but I'm sure they didn't create the crash on their own. Two new modules in a short period of time with a lot of zen items that the players want is the biggest reason. And you can also add the BoP items to the list of reasons, like keys and wards. Instead of buying them from the AH, people now buy them from the zen store.
BUT, the new artifact belt and weapon could be major AD sinks. There is nothing in the zen store ATM that is good for refining them so when people get these artifacts they gonna need AD, just like I did and they gonna start selling their zen to get the AD. The thing is, its gonna take a while because the major part of the players will get the belt by farming and that means playing and unlocking the new campaign and that takes like a month or so.
Put in an order for 25k Zen each on 8 accounts, 6 million AD profit for each of that 25k Zen, so 6x8 =48 million AD with no efforts.
now if I AD that 48million into the business it means im going to get almost double that amount next the next time I get my ordered Zen.
Your kind need to learn, you play a game and you assume you know everything the game has to offer.
How do you make a profit by just buying zen? The zen price is 500 for both buying and selling zen and has been for weeks.
my guess: wards
Well it sounds like hes not doing anything like that.
"Put in an order for 25k Zen each on 8 characters, 6 million AD profit for each of that 25k Zen, so 6x8 =48 million AD with no efforts."
buying and selling wards would be some efforts. Its a bit vague. :P
Like I said mate, "Smarts"
You can have 5 listings (5k Zen per listing) per ACCOUNT. So that's 25k Zen per 2 weeks (as per current situation).
Presumably you mean 8 accounts.
"25k Zen each on 8 accounts*"
I don't care if it's very expensive to refine.. And has an uber low drop rate.. I'm totally ok with that
What isn't ok....
Having to "click click click" for around 4-5 hours... That is just dumb and lacks any real thought in design
Then having a crazy amount of disconnects while doing so
So far my belt is level 45.. It's taken me around 1.5 hours to get that far.. So far I have had 11 disconnects in doing that also.. These disconnects only happen when refining
Remember the reason I play NW is because it's fun.. And I can tell you 100% that this belt refining system "IS NOT FUN"
Hurry up and come up with a better way.. It shouldn't be hard because this is the worst it could possibly be...
You're not going through the content like you should. You should assume the inconveniences of your ways ... Spend 5 min or so a day and in 1 or 2 months you will have finish and not suffered at all.
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In both you tediously continue doing one or the other thing in one craft until you get another 0.01% in a craft, and then slowly over months it ranks up, but with the restriction it's based upon 3 individual scores you have to beat AT ONCE in order to get another 0.01% in progress. Maybe it was DEX/STR/CHA or INT/DEX/CON depending on the craft. If you failed your roll on ONE of those vs the set % to beat you didn't rank up. You also had to gather manually 2-3 items, plus a possible bought item you can only buy with gold, and gold you'd only get grinding or selling the crafted items to the vendors.
The craft Scribing you could ONLY do as a spellcaster class, or with a specific "cheat" from a fellow spellcaster!!!
It'd take on average without bots about 3-9 months to totally rank up any craft if you ever reached that last 0.01% at all to get to 100%. often the last 5% to rank up took 1-3 months on it's own, or if you got randomly lucky with the random roller it was faster.
Now, look at what we have vs that!
Unless it's an epic rare item you don't need to spend AD for things. You can pretty much rank up quickly with most items being easy to loot, or purchase. Most professions have a guaranteed amount of Profession XP you gain with each task to rank up. (Black Ice and Alchemy being the two exceptions.) It goes faster, and far less random rolls based upon your BUILD in order to succeed. You don't have to #$#<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>@# your PvP or PvE build just to be better at professions. There are multiple sources for items, and you can even buy them on the AH.
OMG NW Online is bliss compared to UOA or CNR305.
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You want them to come up with a system that a mere 1 click can boost it up to epic rank? Where's the fun in that...I dont think it's intended to be upgraded at 1 go... should be done periodically as we go over the course of the game..Altho i dont see much reason for that either, since whence we gotten to lvl 60, there is less we can do for activity..Not much adventuring going on in NW i can tell you that.
No but 4-5 hours of pressing the same 2 buttons you can't be serious
Heck is going to cost something like 8M AD to refine anyways which is huge don't make it so annoying as well
And where is the fun in doing a repetitive motion over and over. If you are meant to grind it properly out of your drops it'd probably be outclassed before you even get to legendary.
Read my last 2 sentences.. Im actually giving a contradictory statement myself.. Neverwinter does not provide the necessary environment of adventure. it does not support the idea of refining it over the periodic times. So, it's only reasonable people want it to be 'instant' if they can afford it.. (So in short, I agree there's really no need for it to be overly tedious & annoying)
If they let you get it to legendary fast, you'll just be here, crying that it was too easy, and everyone has a legendary belt.
Go play Tic Tac Toe with the other children, if you must have instant gratification.
What I think is that there should be a server set aside for the people who genuinely do not care at all about $ and will spend thousands of dollars to roll up in a max level character dressed in orange gear. When buying access to that server your package includes one character slot for each race/class combination and your choice of legendary armor/weapons/mounts. It should be a fairly inexpensive server to maintain as well, since it's likely that only PE will need to be kept up so that these folks have a place to hang out and let other people examine and admire them.
tl;dr - It's one thing to spend $ to move yourself along, it's another to complain that you can't quite have insta-win.