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zajebibrezajebibre Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 7 Arc User
edited August 2014 in Bug Reports (PC)
In last several days im experiencing log in and server not responding issues..my connection seems to be fine..does anyone else having this problem? or what should i do to fix this?
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    zajebibre wrote: »
    In last several days im experiencing log in and server not responding issues..my connection seems to be fine..does anyone else having this problem? or what should i do to fix this?

    Your connection is likely not fine at all.

    First disable ondemand patching this will help some.

    Second open a cmd window and type pathping patchserver.crypticstudios.com then past the results. I'll be shocked if your results are fine.
  • zajebibrezajebibre Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Ty for quick response :* On demand patching is disabled long time ago..But now noticed strange thing in pathping :O
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Cogent *facepalms* MMO players the world over can write you a horror story about their throttling tactics. Sadly they do not play nice with many MMO companies--Cryptic included.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Cogent *facepalms* MMO players the world over can write you a horror story about their throttling tactics. Sadly they do not play nice with many MMO companies--Cryptic included.
    For those willing to pay, I've heard people in other games say this fixes the cogent issues and neverwinter is supported. I only have issues maybe once a week so it's not worth it for me to try for myself but someone else may want to give it a shot and see how it goes with neverwinter. <<Link removed>>
  • neevakleenbladeneevakleenblade Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Here's something I was wondering if anyone else was seeing. I've been playing since the start of this year, but I've just start to notice some odd bugs. the screen gets patches of pixels not blocking pixels but jagged triangle shapes, flashing real fast. a couple nights ago it was real weird. I was in the Witches Fen when it happened, running it solo, the flashing started and this time in the flashes I saw images, numbers and such but they flashed so fast I wasn't sure what all I was seeing. Worried there might be a real problem I logged out, and when I logged back in all seemed fine again. OK, this is the first online game I've ever played so I'm really not sure if this is normal, any thoughts, anyone else had this happen? I've also have been getting the server not responding message in between map loads, more often of late.
  • berhudarolberhudarol Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    zajebibre wrote: »
    In last several days im experiencing log in and server not responding issues..my connection seems to be fine..does anyone else having this problem? or what should i do to fix this?


    You are not alone in this. I saw many topics about this in some country forums. Europe, East Europe and Middle East countries have this issue. But the interesting part is this problem is random. Yesterday i have no problem. Today i can't even move my char.

    (On-demand patching is off, i have full 11gb game, file verification done, format to pc done... )
  • zajebibrezajebibre Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    berhudarol ...im changed game settings to proxy eu...this is second day after changes and seems that solved my issues..for now :P
  • denyasdenyas Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    same here... already post mi ping, tracert, etc... all i can do its done already, will be nice if the devs just say "we wont/can do anything..." or "go expend your time elsewhere". Cuz complain about cogento dont solve anything... i cant play this for almost 2weeks now... im losing my hope on neverwinter...
    Im from south america...
  • spaghettinerusspaghettinerus Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This problem is 100% not depending on generic connection issues.

    I've been playing this game since January and I hardly had any personal connection problem, when I had lag, everyone else in the party did (i.e. Castle Never instances, PvP instances, etc) and that's because all of the people I had in party whenever it happened are italians just like me and the server is a pain to reach.

    After last week's reboot I've started to see horrible Server not responding messages from time to time, completely at random to such a point that I can't even try to predict when they are going to happen.

    Yesterday for example I was chilling out in Caer Konig with no issues at all, I then got into Gauntlygrym PvP and all I started with the Server Not Responding message already in the loading panel, then once finally inside I kept getting it from time to time coupled with serious delay between what I was seeing on my screen and what was really happening.

    The same problem applies to people who have got the same DSL provider in here (Alice - Telecom Italia), but I repeat, I don't think at all that's what really matters because everything else connection-wise (Streaming, Downloading, playing other games) works perfectly fine and smooth.

    The situation with the servers has been ridicoulus for quite some time, but now it's reaching the point where it's not even worth trying to play this game if we aren't getting a fix for good.
    Robbin' In Da Hood - HR stands for "Hate (is) Real"

    7 years old PC, connection laggy as sh--, be afraid & get rekt
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014

    The same problem applies to people who have got the same DSL provider in here (Alice - Telecom Italia), but I repeat, I don't think at all that's what really matters because everything else connection-wise (Streaming, Downloading, playing other games) works perfectly fine and smooth.
    This is not how the internet works. In fact it means the opposite and that it almost has to be a routing table issue. With what you are describing it really can't be anything else.
  • xxshainexxxxshainexx Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Yeah... got a lot of trouble with this game since the new patch of 7-8-2014 ... when i'm trying to connect, my launcher dosent even load, if it load and i go ingame, i have server not responding every 2-3 mins, can't change a map, can't run a dungeoun .. .can't do nothing. I've restarted my router, i've restarted my pc, done all the stuff i read on the threads but nothing works. I dont have connection problems because i'm playing others game which need a more powerfull connection than the one we use on neverwinter and i had no problems.... i have no idea what to do... hope the next week meintenance will fix it.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    *sigh*

    Blindly blaming the server because "it can't possibly be your ISP or PC" is counterproductive and flat assumption if you haven't the proof to back up your claims beyond "I can play this game or that game just fine" because "this game or that game" takes a different route to their respective server.

    If you aren't willing to perform and post the test results in this sticky then I'm sorry, but don't expect much help from anyone. As someone with experience in the IT field and network diagnostics in particular, running baseline tests is an invaluable tool.

    There's an old and oft-quoted saying: "When you eliminate the obvious, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth." Well, it's impossible to rule out the obvious without performing those tests...which the sticky provided will also help you with interpreting those results.
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  • tiwit1tiwit1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    This problem is 100% not depending on generic connection issues.

    I've been playing this game since January and I hardly had any personal connection problem, when I had lag, everyone else in the party did (i.e. Castle Never instances, PvP instances, etc) and that's because all of the people I had in party whenever it happened are italians just like me and the server is a pain to reach.

    After last week's reboot I've started to see horrible Server not responding messages from time to time, completely at random to such a point that I can't even try to predict when they are going to happen.

    Yesterday for example I was chilling out in Caer Konig with no issues at all, I then got into Gauntlygrym PvP and all I started with the Server Not Responding message already in the loading panel, then once finally inside I kept getting it from time to time coupled with serious delay between what I was seeing on my screen and what was really happening.

    The same problem applies to people who have got the same DSL provider in here (Alice - Telecom Italia), but I repeat, I don't think at all that's what really matters because everything else connection-wise (Streaming, Downloading, playing other games) works perfectly fine and smooth.

    The situation with the servers has been ridicoulus for quite some time, but now it's reaching the point where it's not even worth trying to play this game if we aren't getting a fix for good.

    when your playing via a LAN, it's propably your router. I was once playing another game what had issues about lags not to much, but as soon you go add a second toon to play twice the same time it's getting harder and the isues are definitely routerbound and copy to the entire playing comunity. some there even ran 4 toons with no problems, that where proffesionals changing their router to run that stuff like that.
  • shunterinoshunterino Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014

    There's an old and oft-quoted saying known as Occam's Razor: "When you eliminate the obvious, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth."

    Not to get off topic but that isn't Occam's Razor, that's a quote from Sherlock Homes.
  • denyasdenyas Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    i solve the problem for a while at least.... i just download the software "battleping" and it work, just the second before i use this i have the "discc..." , "server time out" , "server not respondig"... after install the program i can move and do a couple of DD whitout lag... just dont know how a company star a mmorpg world wide game and dont prevent the conection problems...
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shunterino wrote: »
    Not to get off topic but that isn't Occam's Razor, that's a quote from Sherlock Homes.

    Spock used it in JJ Trek too. Went to look up the wiki article on it and my head nearly exploded. Although it is pretty much the philosophy boiled down to a statement (all things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the most correct), I edited my post.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    denyas wrote: »
    i solve the problem for a while at least.... i just download the software "battleping" and it work, just the second before i use this i have the "discc..." , "server time out" , "server not respondig"... after install the program i can move and do a couple of DD whitout lag... just dont know how a company star a mmorpg world wide game and dont prevent the conection problems...

    Because battleping is a VPN. It's an extra internet service. That's also why it costs you money. I think it's a good idea for those that have problems but the way it works is that it routes you around known trouble spots like cogent connections. VPN's are not something any mmo offers as part of it's client to the best of my knowledge. Once again I highly advocate those with problems using these services but you can't blame cryptic for something that is out of their hands.
  • berhudarolberhudarol Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Today i can't even start the launcher....Loading, loading, and loading again. I can't play this game since 1 August. NO! I have no problem with my ISP and network. I am using best ISP in my country. I can play other games smoothly, browse web and watch HD movies. The problem is not with users. The problem is, you are using bad network infrastructure. All tests show this.
  • dl9905dl9905 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    zajebibre wrote: »
    In last several days im experiencing log in and server not responding issues..my connection seems to be fine..does anyone else having this problem? or what should i do to fix this?

    having server connection errors. my internet connection is fine? any suggestions?
  • spaghettinerusspaghettinerus Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    berhudarol wrote: »
    Today i can't even start the launcher....Loading, loading, and loading again. I can't play this game since 1 August. NO! I have no problem with my ISP and network. I am using best ISP in my country. I can play other games smoothly, browse web and watch HD movies. The problem is not with users. The problem is, you are using bad network infrastructure. All tests show this.

    Yep, same here. Can't even load the launcher properly.
    Robbin' In Da Hood - HR stands for "Hate (is) Real"

    7 years old PC, connection laggy as sh--, be afraid & get rekt
  • kaiserschmarrnkaiserschmarrn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 390
    edited August 2014
    Same old **** as last time. The reason is that part of the infrastructure which routes to launcher.Neverwinter.com is crappy. Timeouts galore....

    This usually fixes itself within a day though, or you can try a US VPN which takes a different route.

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    You should also try to restart your modem, cause I have a vague suspicion that it kills the connection to the launcher if it fails to connect a few times.
  • cerberobotcerberobot Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 345
    edited August 2014
    I'm actually getting the same.

    **** seriously, this is so annoying.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    berhudarol wrote: »
    Today i can't even start the launcher....Loading, loading, and loading again. I can't play this game since 1 August. NO! I have no problem with my ISP and network. I am using best ISP in my country. I can play other games smoothly, browse web and watch HD movies. The problem is not with users. The problem is, you are using bad network infrastructure. All tests show this.

    Cryptic cannot control the network infrastructure outside their own network. Fallacy of logic there.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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  • kaiserschmarrnkaiserschmarrn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 390
    edited August 2014
    Cryptic cannot control the network infrastructure outside their own network. Fallacy of logic there.

    This is not quite the case, since all hosts I know (be it games or actual IT services) work with the providers close to their datacenter. And as you can see in my tracert the timeouts happen on the last few hops.
  • berhudarolberhudarol Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Cryptic cannot control the network infrastructure outside their own network. Fallacy of logic there.

    You are wrong. Search and learn how other game companies provide better game experience to their players...
  • ibaffoibaffo Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Cryptic cannot control the network infrastructure outside their own network. Fallacy of logic there.

    You are losing players (money) because you have bad partners.
    Maybe you should relocate your datacenter, or try a cloud partner, or switch ISP, or buid a proxy that doesn't lag as the current one, or create an european shard, or you could still blame the players and wait for cogent to "fix" something that magically solves the problem.

    Have you at least contacted your ISP to tackle this routing problem?
    Or should we (your customers) do this?
  • fenrer1fenrer1 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ibaffo wrote: »
    You are losing players (money) because you have bad partners.
    Maybe you should relocate your datacenter, or try a cloud partner, or switch ISP, or buid a proxy that doesn't lag as the current one, or create an european shard, or you could still blame the players and wait for cogent to "fix" something that magically solves the problem.

    Have you at least contacted your ISP to tackle this routing problem?
    Or should we (your customers) do this?

    Amen to that brother, this issue has been going on for months now and still no official answer on this matter more than "is not Cryptic fault" which it seems like a very polite way to way to say **** off...
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    fenrer1 wrote: »
    Amen to that brother, this issue has been going on for months now and still no official answer on this matter more than "is not Cryptic fault" which it seems like a very polite way to way to say **** off...

    The only way to fix it is to be a US resident and call the FCC and your represenative.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    berhudarol wrote: »
    You are wrong. Search and learn how other game companies provide better game experience to their players...

    I'll counter that with "search other game companies period". I've played a fair volume of MMOs in my time and they have ALL had lag and latency issues.

    Every. Single. One.

    Think this is a problem unique to Cryptic? I'd think again. Nor has Cryptic been completely ignoring the issue--search the STO forums as well as the PWE tech forums for that matter. Bottom line is that Cryptic is not a customer of Cogent. No matter how many times Cryptic bugs their ISP, magical fixes cannot be pulled out of thin air, and the number of ISPs that can handle the data requirements Cryptic would have to need are few and far between. Welcome to the reality of the fact that many large-scale ISPs enjoy a virtual legal monopoly in their service areas.

    Nevertheless, it seems much easier to "blame the man", as it were, than to accept that the issue is something that is out of either Cryptic's or the user's immediate control.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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