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Could we please get an option for the BI mainhand/gloves to be from vendor aswell

iceshard2faceiceshard2face Member Posts: 289 Bounty Hunter
please the player base begs you to allow this

im not saying remove it from the Heroic/Major encounters

but just give us another option at an increased price or something anything

some players dont have 8-9 hours a day to spend in IWD trying for these due to real life obligations such as work school family ect

the grind is horrendous and mind numbing and once you have completed the campaign as many have but are still behind on the set it just becomes silly and everyone is left wondering why?

with mod 4 upcoming is it possible to get this option since i as many others would rather be concentrating on that instead of haveing to spend months and months trying to finally finish this set

not to mention new players will be left in the dust not because of unlocking the campaign but because people who have their set and everything from IWD will no longer be doing said encounters making finding a group that actually wants to stay in IWD all day hard.

please from a concerned gamer i humbly implore you devs to consider this in good faith.

or another option is to make them BOE which imho they should have been in the first place getting another classes armor that you cant do anything with but salvage is a kick in the nethers.
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    agreed bi hands and weapons should be at npc to buy
  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    1. Do the Major HE's. They also drop mainhand/bracers.
    2. Do the ones that have a script to follow (free prospectors, etc.) rather than the ones that just require you to kill things (i.e., Barbarian/Troll/Undead Invasion). Why? Because anyone can press F to free a prospector, you don't need high DPS to do this.
    3. Show up early and attempt to solo as much of it as you can before others arrive. That way your individual participation remains high.
    4. Do the Major HE's that are far away from the campfire, that way you are able to show up early before everyone else arrives.

    I haven't gotten anything from the Epic HE's, but I got 2 gloves and 1 mainhand from Major HE's following this recipe. And I only unlocked IWD about 3 weeks ago.
  • iceshard2faceiceshard2face Member Posts: 289 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    1. Do the Major HE's. They also drop mainhand/bracers.
    2. Do the ones that have a script to follow (free prospectors, etc.) rather than the ones that just require you to kill things (i.e., Barbarian/Troll/Undead Invasion). Why? Because anyone can press F to free a prospector, you don't need high DPS to do this.
    3. Show up early and attempt to solo as much of it as you can before others arrive. That way your individual participation remains high.
    4. Do the Major HE's that are far away from the campfire, that way you are able to show up early before everyone else arrives.

    I haven't gotten anything from the Epic HE's, but I got 2 gloves and 1 mainhand from Major HE's following this recipe. And I only unlocked IWD about 3 weeks ago.

    lol i have done all of this i have 100+ majors and 100+ epics you think no one is doing this you should count yourself lucky that you have managed to get this most players have more than enough refined black ice to craft 3 sets you just got lucky on drops
  • wolhaiksong332wolhaiksong332 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 107
    edited August 2014
    I keep getting drop after drop of the main hand and bracers. If anything i think the drop should be more rare. Each epic encounter one or two people get their drop. That's more than enough in my opinion.
  • vader6139vader6139 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I keep getting drop after drop of the main hand and bracers. If anything i think the drop should be more rare. Each epic encounter one or two people get their drop. That's more than enough in my opinion.

    This is absolutely insane. Only a few in my guild have gotten anything and we have been trying since the beginning. Hoping with mod4 the drop chance will increase or will be available in the IWD store. Otherwise most of us have just given up on this ludicrous grind.
  • blacksladdiblacksladdi Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    with mod 4 going live i also hope this becomes buyable from venders even if its 5x more expensive then the other things. IWD will be dead content with mod 4 if its still that hard to get.
  • skinlikewinterskinlikewinter Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    yes please make it able to be purchased. I have never had a problem with any games causing carpel tunnel, except for this game.
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  • ucanthandleucanthandle Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.

    Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
  • blacksladdiblacksladdi Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.

    Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.

    think having to have 20 leader is a bit over the top on that, but the rest sounds fine. Can even tweak it a bit to have minors give NO tokens.
  • hudman21hudman21 Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Finally got my main GWF 14K GS to 350 rep. That's the good news

    The bad news, Still no gloves, no main hand and lots of frustration. And now I don't even get rank 4's and rank 5's except on a VERY RARE occasion.

    This is absolute madness and an epic fail of a system.
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  • iceshard2faceiceshard2face Member Posts: 289 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    im all for a token based system or just say 60,000+ ice for mainhand and the same for gloves at this point with mod 4 upcoming i see no reason to not put them in the store with the other items ontop of that you still have to grind to empower them this in itself was a poorely thought out system the least they can do is compensate us for all the other borken aspects atm
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I fully agree with the OP. I was lucky enough to get the main-hand and two bracers but several people in our guild got nothing (mostly DCs and GFs). And I´ll gladly buy a second main-hand to complete both sets even if it means to grind for more ice.
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  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    1. Do the Major HE's. They also drop mainhand/bracers.

    No they do not!
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  • vader6139vader6139 Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.

    Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.

    Was with you until the Leadership part. Leadership is ridiculously hard to level up. None of my toons is even close.

    I don't mind the slog to 350 or farming black ice. I can also tolerate getting tokens since that at least would mean I am working toward something. As of now I am absolutely wasting my time on pointless grinding with drops getting worse and worse for no reason.

    The only Epic thing cryptic is doing is failing and they are doing it quite well. Stop nerfing the **** drops and drop rates!!!
  • iceshard2faceiceshard2face Member Posts: 289 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
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  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.

    Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.

    That is far too much. If they done that I'd give up on BI gear. 350 Reputation plus Seals/Tokens is enough. No need to throw in huge amounts of Black Ice and Leadership. We would still need more Black Ice to forge them and then still more to charge them.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Logged in last night, did 3 Heroics and logged off! Its ponderous now, I am not having fun anymore progression is no longer an option...
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    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    No they do not!

    roll cw they seems to can get hands and weapons to drop easy
  • snappa0126snappa0126 Member Posts: 90
    edited August 2014
    with mod 4 going live i also hope this becomes buyable from venders even if its 5x more expensive then the other things. IWD will be dead content with mod 4 if its still that hard to get.

    I don't think the developers have looked that far down the road. They are more concerned with trying to create items to sell for real life money.

    I have received 2 pairs of gloves and 2 weapons with my CW in 100 HE grinds and I have received 0 gloves and 1 weapon in over 100 HE grinds with my GF.

    When mod 4 hits I will NOT go back to IWD, IWP, Caer Konig, etc as I refuse to farm for something that I have no hope of obtaining.
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    snappa0126 wrote: »
    I don't think the developers have looked that far down the road. They are more concerned with trying to create items to sell for real life money.

    I have received 2 pairs of gloves and 2 weapons with my CW in 100 HE grinds and I have received 0 gloves and 1 weapon in over 100 HE grinds with my GF.


    When mod 4 hits I will NOT go back to IWD, IWP, Caer Konig, etc as I refuse to farm for something that I have no hope of obtaining.

    yeah drop rates are just way to low think tons of ppl quit even trying to get it
  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    roll cw they seems to can get hands and weapons to drop easy

    Not that I've noticed, no. :)
    My CW has spent many hours just grinding the major and epic HE's and has yet to have anything drop other than bound weapons for other classes. No BI mainhand and no bracers.

    Same story on my other chars.
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  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    No they do not!

    It's just luck. my CW hasn't gotten anything and has done HEs more and often solo (farming for enchants before the drop rate nerf). But my GF has both gloves from a major (wolves) and sword from a heroic (prospector attack)

    Both times i was there before anyone else, I didn't bother doing beholder etc or any of those unless i was there before the zerg. that was months ago, since then? nothing on any other character.
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rabbinicus wrote: »
    Not that I've noticed, no. :)
    My CW has spent many hours just grinding the major and epic HE's and has yet to have anything drop other than bound weapons for other classes. No BI mainhand and no bracers.

    Same story on my other chars.

    idk most of geared cw i know got hands and weapons to drop more then few times
  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Several players in our guild have two sets of main/gloves. Most of us have nothing. I was in an Epic HE and a guild member showed up two minutes before it ended (as evidenced by the timer) and got his gloves. I started the HE solo (Prospectors I think), did all the tasks, and was there the whole time with no deaths. I got the 180 BI but no gloves or main.

    The drops are pure RNG; it doesn't matter what/how you do it. The dice laugh at me every time :)
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    silence1x wrote: »
    Several players in our guild have two sets of main/gloves. Most of us have nothing. I was in an Epic HE and a guild member showed up two minutes before it ended (as evidenced by the timer) and got his gloves. I started the HE solo (Prospectors I think), did all the tasks, and was there the whole time with no deaths. I got the 180 BI but no gloves or main.

    The drops are pure RNG; it doesn't matter what/how you do it. The dice laugh at me every time :)

    how much i know u need to be in top 4 dps spots to got chance to win it
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am so sick of farming Dwarven valley i could puke! I log in do a Heroic then log out and Play Diablo 3....
    Shieldbash 60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard 19.0k
    Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
    ==========================================


    ~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I am so sick of farming Dwarven valley i could puke! I log in do a Heroic then log out and Play Diablo 3....

    Umm wow, talk about masochism. DV has a much better chance of dropping something good. D3 is a case of punching yourself in the groin would be more productive.
  • str8slayerstr8slayer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 715 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    I know this won't happen but can you AT LEAST clean up the loot pools in these epic HE's? For instance the chance to get a bound weapon from another class... All this does is exponentially decrease your chances of getting the item you're going for.
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  • adernathadernath Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If you do only PvE as CW then the HV set is better anyways. For PvP you also can use the t2 PvP-set which has the advantage that it is not melting away and has more tenacity.
    Suggestions to improve NW:
    - Dualspec
    - Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
    - Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
    - Armory
    - make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
  • lootjunkielootjunkie Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    What is particularly annoying is the epics dont seem to show up very often anymore. I will spend 4-5 hours in the same instance of DV farming trolls and whatnot(I farm for enchants with 4x fey blessing enchants)and the beholder doesnt show up once. I used to see it show up way more in the earlier days of the module.
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