Artifact weapons for the DC

beckylunatic · July 2014

So I'm not motivated enough to go to the trouble of screencapping these to show people, sorry. I'm only previewing them via GatewayTest anyway.

I'm very torn as to whether I'd choose the one that buffs Sacred Flame which I use all the time (100% more temp hitpoints at max rank), or Astral Seal which is a huge part of healing but which I don't slot for soloing (40% more healing at max rank).

The final option is 10% more damage on Lance of Faith. Artifact weapons do not come with options for paragon at-wills.

chaoscourtesan · July 2014

Disappointing, in my opinion. The only one that gives damage is on an at-will that I couldn't be bothered to use. Got crazy healing already and no one needs it. I was so hoping for damage, or at least debuffs. (They are weapons.. seems to me they should hurt, at least a bit.)

godhric · July 2014

chaoscourtesan wrote: »

Disappointing, in my opinion. The only one that gives damage is on an at-will that I couldn't be bothered to use. Got crazy healing already and no one needs it. I was so hoping for damage, or at least debuffs. (They are weapons.. seems to me they should hurt, at least a bit.)

We need all the healing we can get for PvP..

As for PvE.. We must not compare the future content with the current dungeon we have.. They might make a dungeon that more healing is required.. It would be great if they could introduce a new gameplay style (instead of stacking CW for massive dealing with the adds)... seemingly with the new draconic set would be a gist towards that.. I certainly hope so.

adinosii · July 2014

godhric wrote: »

We need all the healing we can get for PvP..

As for PvE.. We must not compare the future content with the current dungeon we have.. They might make a dungeon that more healing is required..

Most likely the DPS classes will compensate by adding even more Life Steal. Maybe DC healing would be useful if we got mobs with low HPs, but massive AC/defense, so it takes forever to kill them, but LS will not give the DPSers much. Somehow I don't see that happening, though.

It's more likely that we will just see more massive damage, so that DC heals will be needed in addition to LS.

silverkelt · July 2014

Not much of a choice, since I use BoB alot as a AC spec, its probably just sacred flame.

I doubt very much that any DD will "need" a DC to be fully specced out , geared out to do full heals any time soon. They had a stated goal that they prefer not to rely on that setup.

beckylunatic · July 2014

On the other hand, a lot of the balance changes already in the works are aimed at making mixed party compositions more synergistic, reducing the ability to rely on clumping a bazillion mobs and blowing everything up in 5 seconds.

It would be nice to see more dev support for the DC's buff/debuff capacity, for sure.

kozi001 · July 2014

Then Astral Seal it is.
I must admit I hoped for BoB with some extra DR

But you probably can't have other than the 3 common ones for all paragon.

spani4rd · August 2014

The one that buffs ASeal sounds like by far the best option. ASeal's basically never leaves my spell tray and I pretty much only use Sacred Flame when I solo.
I supose that for strictly PVE side of things, if you absolutely feel the extra healing from ASeal isn't worth it then go with the Sacred Flame one. This does mean you kinda need to use sacred flame though, which you probably don't if your an AC.

adinosii · August 2014

The thing is - what to do if the RNG is mean to you and doesn't give you the one you want - from what I understand, you get a random one, right ? It might take quite a bit of work to get the one you actually want.

beckylunatic · August 2014

adinosii wrote: »

The thing is - what to do if the RNG is mean to you and doesn't give you the one you want - from what I understand, you get a random one, right ? It might take quite a bit of work to get the one you actually want.

When I created this thread, everyone looking at the weapons on preview was operating under the assumption that there'd be a choice because tying this to RNG would be dumb.

We can still hope the overwhelming negative feedback will inspire a change. (Yes dammit, we can hope.)

spani4rd · August 2014

Honestly though, these weps are pretty HAMSTER compared to the belts. Of course if they stick with the RNG concept, getting the exact belt you want will be even more difficult

beckylunatic · August 2014

The belts might not be so bad because they're going to be BoE drops, so you can buy a preferred one. There might be some inequality in pricing, but they should be available.

But the weapons have thus far been announced to be BoP RNG, which is a grim prospect.

silverkelt · August 2014

spani4rd wrote: »

The one that buffs ASeal sounds like by far the best option. ASeal's basically never leaves my spell tray and I pretty much only use Sacred Flame when I solo.
I supose that for strictly PVE side of things, if you absolutely feel the extra healing from ASeal isn't worth it then go with the Sacred Flame one. This does mean you kinda need to use sacred flame though, which you probably don't if your an AC.

Wait.. what the heck would you use if your AC? Sacred is the only at will you can use.

Sadly , I dont feel like these are well thought out, like 1% of all DCs use Lance of Faith at high levels and its not going to change at all.

So basically you have 1 at will no one uses, this wont change.
1 at will most everyone does use, except for those using BoTs instead and
1 at will that is very useful, except for pvp AC builds.. per se, though they can slot it, but have to drop BoB in comparison.

They shouldnt have used Lance of Faith at ALL.. it should be Sacrad Flame(sed in both specs), BoB for AC specs and Seal for DO spec.

6 days and too late to get this changed in all likely hood.

adinosii · August 2014

silverkelt wrote: »

6 days and too late to get this changed in all likely hood.

This is not going to change. There will not be weapons for the path-specific at-wills (for any class, not just DCs). This means that some classes/builds will have a choice of two "good" weapons - others will have just one. DCs are not alone in this respect. The best we can hope for is to get a chest with a choice of weapons, instead of having to rely on the RNG.

inthere23 · August 2014

silverkelt wrote: »

Wait.. what the heck would you use if your AC? Sacred is the only at will you can use.

Sadly , I dont feel like these are well thought out, like 1% of all DCs use Lance of Faith at high levels and its not going to change at all.

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AC is fine. The astral seal one is going to be nice, LOF can kma. I'm AC and I use a feated BOB to start every fight (gives 15% of your power to everyone in the group, my power is 8500 so the group gets 1k+ power) then switch to astral seal. Also use forgemasters flame which with linked spirit gives up to 25% of my stats to the group if it hits everyone with the big heal and my groups get 2-3k+ power plus stats. Also use divine glow. I've gotten my power up to 18k for some fights when I use Anointed Army but that's usually in a panic when the group needs control immunity (end of valindra fight when too many adds) as it cuts damage significantly. I prefer Hallowed ground.

spani4rd · August 2014

silverkelt wrote: »

Wait.. what the heck would you use if your AC? Sacred is the only at will you can use.

Granted I pretty much don't PVE anymore, but BoB and ASeal would be the at wills I'm using as an AC for dungeon runs etc

Artifact weapons for the DC

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