im not saying remove it from the Heroic/Major encounters
but just give us another option at an increased price or something anything
some players dont have 8-9 hours a day to spend in IWD trying for these due to real life obligations such as work school family ect
the grind is horrendous and mind numbing and once you have completed the campaign as many have but are still behind on the set it just becomes silly and everyone is left wondering why?
with mod 4 upcoming is it possible to get this option since i as many others would rather be concentrating on that instead of haveing to spend months and months trying to finally finish this set
not to mention new players will be left in the dust not because of unlocking the campaign but because people who have their set and everything from IWD will no longer be doing said encounters making finding a group that actually wants to stay in IWD all day hard.
please from a concerned gamer i humbly implore you devs to consider this in good faith.
or another option is to make them BOE which imho they should have been in the first place getting another classes armor that you cant do anything with but salvage is a kick in the nethers.
1. Do the Major HE's. They also drop mainhand/bracers.
2. Do the ones that have a script to follow (free prospectors, etc.) rather than the ones that just require you to kill things (i.e., Barbarian/Troll/Undead Invasion). Why? Because anyone can press F to free a prospector, you don't need high DPS to do this.
3. Show up early and attempt to solo as much of it as you can before others arrive. That way your individual participation remains high.
4. Do the Major HE's that are far away from the campfire, that way you are able to show up early before everyone else arrives.
I haven't gotten anything from the Epic HE's, but I got 2 gloves and 1 mainhand from Major HE's following this recipe. And I only unlocked IWD about 3 weeks ago.
1. Do the Major HE's. They also drop mainhand/bracers.
2. Do the ones that have a script to follow (free prospectors, etc.) rather than the ones that just require you to kill things (i.e., Barbarian/Troll/Undead Invasion). Why? Because anyone can press F to free a prospector, you don't need high DPS to do this.
3. Show up early and attempt to solo as much of it as you can before others arrive. That way your individual participation remains high.
4. Do the Major HE's that are far away from the campfire, that way you are able to show up early before everyone else arrives.
I haven't gotten anything from the Epic HE's, but I got 2 gloves and 1 mainhand from Major HE's following this recipe. And I only unlocked IWD about 3 weeks ago.
lol i have done all of this i have 100+ majors and 100+ epics you think no one is doing this you should count yourself lucky that you have managed to get this most players have more than enough refined black ice to craft 3 sets you just got lucky on drops
I keep getting drop after drop of the main hand and bracers. If anything i think the drop should be more rare. Each epic encounter one or two people get their drop. That's more than enough in my opinion.
I keep getting drop after drop of the main hand and bracers. If anything i think the drop should be more rare. Each epic encounter one or two people get their drop. That's more than enough in my opinion.
This is absolutely insane. Only a few in my guild have gotten anything and we have been trying since the beginning. Hoping with mod4 the drop chance will increase or will be available in the IWD store. Otherwise most of us have just given up on this ludicrous grind.
with mod 4 going live i also hope this becomes buyable from venders even if its 5x more expensive then the other things. IWD will be dead content with mod 4 if its still that hard to get.
Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.
Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.
Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
think having to have 20 leader is a bit over the top on that, but the rest sounds fine. Can even tweak it a bit to have minors give NO tokens.
im all for a token based system or just say 60,000+ ice for mainhand and the same for gloves at this point with mod 4 upcoming i see no reason to not put them in the store with the other items ontop of that you still have to grind to empower them this in itself was a poorely thought out system the least they can do is compensate us for all the other borken aspects atm
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gabrieldourdenMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,212Arc User
edited August 2014
I fully agree with the OP. I was lucky enough to get the main-hand and two bracers but several people in our guild got nothing (mostly DCs and GFs). And I´ll gladly buy a second main-hand to complete both sets even if it means to grind for more ice.
Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.
Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
Was with you until the Leadership part. Leadership is ridiculously hard to level up. None of my toons is even close.
I don't mind the slog to 350 or farming black ice. I can also tolerate getting tokens since that at least would mean I am working toward something. As of now I am absolutely wasting my time on pointless grinding with drops getting worse and worse for no reason.
The only Epic thing cryptic is doing is failing and they are doing it quite well. Stop nerfing the **** drops and drop rates!!!
Having heroics drop tokens (1 for normal, 1-3 for major and 3-5 for epic) would be a good thing. Make the gear buyable at 350 reputation. The gloves for 100 tokens +18,000 black ice and wep for 125 tokens plus 24,000 black ice would be reasonable. That is still ALOT of farming, but would help those that have terrible luck on RNG. After that much effort devs cannot say that the player still does not deserve the items. The tokens could also only be obtainable after max leadership by givng a quest to collect these tokens that is unlocked at 350 rep to stop people from farming before they get the max rep.
Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
That is far too much. If they done that I'd give up on BI gear. 350 Reputation plus Seals/Tokens is enough. No need to throw in huge amounts of Black Ice and Leadership. We would still need more Black Ice to forge them and then still more to charge them.
PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
with mod 4 going live i also hope this becomes buyable from venders even if its 5x more expensive then the other things. IWD will be dead content with mod 4 if its still that hard to get.
I don't think the developers have looked that far down the road. They are more concerned with trying to create items to sell for real life money.
I have received 2 pairs of gloves and 2 weapons with my CW in 100 HE grinds and I have received 0 gloves and 1 weapon in over 100 HE grinds with my GF.
When mod 4 hits I will NOT go back to IWD, IWP, Caer Konig, etc as I refuse to farm for something that I have no hope of obtaining.
HAMSTER, level 60 GF, "Bloodthirsty" since Mod 2 Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
I don't think the developers have looked that far down the road. They are more concerned with trying to create items to sell for real life money.
I have received 2 pairs of gloves and 2 weapons with my CW in 100 HE grinds and I have received 0 gloves and 1 weapon in over 100 HE grinds with my GF.
When mod 4 hits I will NOT go back to IWD, IWP, Caer Konig, etc as I refuse to farm for something that I have no hope of obtaining.
yeah drop rates are just way to low think tons of ppl quit even trying to get it
roll cw they seems to can get hands and weapons to drop easy
Not that I've noticed, no.
My CW has spent many hours just grinding the major and epic HE's and has yet to have anything drop other than bound weapons for other classes. No BI mainhand and no bracers.
Same story on my other chars.
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It's just luck. my CW hasn't gotten anything and has done HEs more and often solo (farming for enchants before the drop rate nerf). But my GF has both gloves from a major (wolves) and sword from a heroic (prospector attack)
Both times i was there before anyone else, I didn't bother doing beholder etc or any of those unless i was there before the zerg. that was months ago, since then? nothing on any other character.
Not that I've noticed, no.
My CW has spent many hours just grinding the major and epic HE's and has yet to have anything drop other than bound weapons for other classes. No BI mainhand and no bracers.
Same story on my other chars.
idk most of geared cw i know got hands and weapons to drop more then few times
Several players in our guild have two sets of main/gloves. Most of us have nothing. I was in an Epic HE and a guild member showed up two minutes before it ended (as evidenced by the timer) and got his gloves. I started the HE solo (Prospectors I think), did all the tasks, and was there the whole time with no deaths. I got the 180 BI but no gloves or main.
The drops are pure RNG; it doesn't matter what/how you do it. The dice laugh at me every time
Several players in our guild have two sets of main/gloves. Most of us have nothing. I was in an Epic HE and a guild member showed up two minutes before it ended (as evidenced by the timer) and got his gloves. I started the HE solo (Prospectors I think), did all the tasks, and was there the whole time with no deaths. I got the 180 BI but no gloves or main.
The drops are pure RNG; it doesn't matter what/how you do it. The dice laugh at me every time
how much i know u need to be in top 4 dps spots to got chance to win it
I am so sick of farming Dwarven valley i could puke! I log in do a Heroic then log out and Play Diablo 3....
Umm wow, talk about masochism. DV has a much better chance of dropping something good. D3 is a case of punching yourself in the groin would be more productive.
I know this won't happen but can you AT LEAST clean up the loot pools in these epic HE's? For instance the chance to get a bound weapon from another class... All this does is exponentially decrease your chances of getting the item you're going for.
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adernathMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
If you do only PvE as CW then the HV set is better anyways. For PvP you also can use the t2 PvP-set which has the advantage that it is not melting away and has more tenacity.
Suggestions to improve NW:
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
What is particularly annoying is the epics dont seem to show up very often anymore. I will spend 4-5 hours in the same instance of DV farming trolls and whatnot(I farm for enchants with 4x fey blessing enchants)and the beholder doesnt show up once. I used to see it show up way more in the earlier days of the module.
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2. Do the ones that have a script to follow (free prospectors, etc.) rather than the ones that just require you to kill things (i.e., Barbarian/Troll/Undead Invasion). Why? Because anyone can press F to free a prospector, you don't need high DPS to do this.
3. Show up early and attempt to solo as much of it as you can before others arrive. That way your individual participation remains high.
4. Do the Major HE's that are far away from the campfire, that way you are able to show up early before everyone else arrives.
I haven't gotten anything from the Epic HE's, but I got 2 gloves and 1 mainhand from Major HE's following this recipe. And I only unlocked IWD about 3 weeks ago.
lol i have done all of this i have 100+ majors and 100+ epics you think no one is doing this you should count yourself lucky that you have managed to get this most players have more than enough refined black ice to craft 3 sets you just got lucky on drops
This is absolutely insane. Only a few in my guild have gotten anything and we have been trying since the beginning. Hoping with mod4 the drop chance will increase or will be available in the IWD store. Otherwise most of us have just given up on this ludicrous grind.
Its ok to be forced to farm as long as you know you are working towards something. As it is now, you are no more likely to get the drops you need than the very first time you try. No single item should take more than a month of farming every day to get. We already have a super slow grind on enchants.
think having to have 20 leader is a bit over the top on that, but the rest sounds fine. Can even tweak it a bit to have minors give NO tokens.
The bad news, Still no gloves, no main hand and lots of frustration. And now I don't even get rank 4's and rank 5's except on a VERY RARE occasion.
This is absolute madness and an epic fail of a system.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
No they do not!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Was with you until the Leadership part. Leadership is ridiculously hard to level up. None of my toons is even close.
I don't mind the slog to 350 or farming black ice. I can also tolerate getting tokens since that at least would mean I am working toward something. As of now I am absolutely wasting my time on pointless grinding with drops getting worse and worse for no reason.
The only Epic thing cryptic is doing is failing and they are doing it quite well. Stop nerfing the **** drops and drop rates!!!
That is far too much. If they done that I'd give up on BI gear. 350 Reputation plus Seals/Tokens is enough. No need to throw in huge amounts of Black Ice and Leadership. We would still need more Black Ice to forge them and then still more to charge them.
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
roll cw they seems to can get hands and weapons to drop easy
I don't think the developers have looked that far down the road. They are more concerned with trying to create items to sell for real life money.
I have received 2 pairs of gloves and 2 weapons with my CW in 100 HE grinds and I have received 0 gloves and 1 weapon in over 100 HE grinds with my GF.
When mod 4 hits I will NOT go back to IWD, IWP, Caer Konig, etc as I refuse to farm for something that I have no hope of obtaining.
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
yeah drop rates are just way to low think tons of ppl quit even trying to get it
Not that I've noticed, no.
My CW has spent many hours just grinding the major and epic HE's and has yet to have anything drop other than bound weapons for other classes. No BI mainhand and no bracers.
Same story on my other chars.
It's just luck. my CW hasn't gotten anything and has done HEs more and often solo (farming for enchants before the drop rate nerf). But my GF has both gloves from a major (wolves) and sword from a heroic (prospector attack)
Both times i was there before anyone else, I didn't bother doing beholder etc or any of those unless i was there before the zerg. that was months ago, since then? nothing on any other character.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
idk most of geared cw i know got hands and weapons to drop more then few times
The drops are pure RNG; it doesn't matter what/how you do it. The dice laugh at me every time
how much i know u need to be in top 4 dps spots to got chance to win it
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Umm wow, talk about masochism. DV has a much better chance of dropping something good. D3 is a case of punching yourself in the groin would be more productive.
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)