Seems like PWE feels they were handing out too much in the early stages and are now scaling way back. It's not even that the pack is completely overpriced. Not a bargain by any means but you are getting decent value back. The overall problem is that the pack lacks usefulness and unique stuff. Fashion sets are nice, but for me merely gimmicks. Unique artifact is ok, should probably be purple though like lockbox ones.
But then you really only have the Ring of Dragon Slaying, which is kinda nice for your common Draco farm.
Dragon Glyphs fade and are poor man's Dragon Marks. Bahamut Regalia as one-time use is also rather useless.
So I personally, and others might feel the same, am thinking about spending 75$ (100$) for a race, the change token, account unlocked Ring of Dragon Slaying and the artifact.
The rest is like trading for a superstar in the NBA when the other team says you have to take a bunch of bad contracts back in order to get what you want. It's stuff I don't really need but am forced to take in the package deal.
There was a time I would have given 200-300 for a lifetime sub to this game (provided that was like CO and you got most of the stuff). 100 is just too much for what they are giving.
Nice to see they are reaching 10 percent of the forum customers though!
The more I think about the dragonborn design they chose the more I dislike it. Below are two of the many reasons why:
1) They look like the 90's version of Godzilla.
2) I thought them to look more or less like the 4e teiflings save for the fact they have the same characteristics of their parent dragon with wings and a tail. Other than that they would have the same body type as their humanoid parent (ie. human, elf, ect) These just look too weird.
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isoplethMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 25Arc User
edited July 2014
Nah those are fugly.
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chaoscourtesanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
To say it loud: You (PWE/Cryptic) must gone mad if you expect me (the player) to spend money on this package.
Yes i would really like to play a Dragonborn or change my current character in an Dragonborn, it's a really cool and extraordinary race but 71 Euro (I am from europe) is really expensiv and the normal price is totally insane, i mean 95 Euro... i mean... *spechless*... but i don't want to fall to deep in emotions and i want explain it by cold hard logic.
The Dragonborn Legend Pack includes following stuff:
Race: Dragonborn
There are different races in every package. From the 190 Euro package to the 50 Euro packages. It's hard to tell how much they are worth. Most of the time it's a personal thing. But i would spend 10 to 15 Euro to play as a dragonborn. (My personal preference)
But there is a major problem: No Stats! It's a blind bargain...
Fashion: Dragonborn Ceremonial
To say it loud: I dislike the idea of seperate fashion slots, i like it if i can personalize my armor with different skins to create a more unique style. But enough with my own fashion taste, most of the fashion items in your shop costs 800 to 2.000 Zen (which in my opionion is way overprized).
Fashion: Dragonborn Warrior
Like the one before. We add 800 to 2.000 Zen to the package.
Item/Fashion: Bahamut Regalia
I don't know what's up with this stuff: Reinforcments are new to me and i heard it is a new thing on the preview server for the upcoming Modul (more informations would be good). Does this mean it's like an extra enchantment or does ALL reinforcments on one Item stack? If it's like this (that they stack) this game is doomed, because you openly sell battlepower for money, even if it's against Dragons in PvE!
What bugs me the most are the items that have no level requirement. I mean it's okey for level 1 to 20 but then it's worthless ****. Okey besides the reinforcments stuff but come on! You created with the mulhorand weapons the perfect weapon gear to level your new characters. The weapons levels automatically with your character and you have the best gear every level and you can focus on farming XP, why did you stop with this kind of Leveling-Gear and replaced it with the old lame leveling gear? I mean an Mulhorand Armor would be awesome!
Item: Ring of Dragonslayer
Neat an epic ring for every character. But how usefull will it be?
Item: Gemfinder Enchantment
One free farming enchantment. In my opinion worthless and i think you made this thing like other account bound enchantments that you cannot salvage them for their refining points.
Item: Dragon Glyps (Overload Enchantmens)
Worthless, because they destroy itself after 2 hours of battle and i think you can buy or craft them later ingame, otherwise this is a real useless enchantment. I mean, why give your players really good overloading enchantments that are limited?
Item: Draconic Enchantment
One Rank 8 Enchantment is pretty nice and i like (personal preference) the stats that it can give you.
Artifact: Hearth of the Red Dragon
Really nice, an own artifact and it has a special effect if i am a dragonborn.
In the past you sold the "tayan book of the undead" for 6.000 Zen in the store and it was Green Quality too. For the book i think it was okey because it was a rare dropp of the chest and as this campaign started a new chest was established. But this was before you spammed the game with "free" artifacts with different stats and abilitys.
6.000 Zen is way out of the league of this artifact because it's green and we only now know 1 of 3 stats (even the wiki says that 2 stats are unknown). We speak from an unfinished artifact. It's like the Dragonborn race: It's a blind bargain!
But nice is that every character get one at the start.
Service: One free race change
I like it! How much will it cost later in the Zen-Store?
Service: One free character slot
Yes we expect a new class AND a new AWESOME race. Two slots in the Zen-Store cost me 500, one is 250 Zen worth.
Service/Item: 30 Slot Bag
Wow, one giant bag. It's really the biggest you can buy. The currently biggest is the 24 Bag in Zen-Store for 1.000. But only 6 Slots more i would say 1.500 Zen would be the price you are aiming (or maybe not, if you want to keep it exclusive)
After a bit Math i get to 4.270 Zen worth of equipment.
1.600 (2*800) for two fashion sets. (I set it the lowest price because i dislike it)
250 for one character slot
1.500 for one 30 Slot Bag
920 for one rank 8 enchantment (Lowest rank 8 enchantment costs 460.000 AD = 920 Zen)
Then we have a bunch of really questionable Items (Overloading Enchantments and this blue Regaliaset) one race we only now a few skins yet and no stats AND one free artifact for every character which we don't know ALL stats.
4270 Zen are ~38 Euro if i know add the race with 15 Euro (and this is still really pricy) i come to 53 Euro and i would consider the green artifact as free because i can get 6 other really good artifacts for free by simply playing the game (class artifacts) but to keep it fair we could add 20 Euro. Which means we are by 73 Euro worth in the package.
But come ON the basic price is 95 Euro and it is only temporarly lowered to 71 Euro. And 73 Euro in worth is pretty generous calculated for this package.
Make it 60 Bucks (basic costs) and 25% cheaper for the Pre-Order (45 Euro) and put in a exclusive companion/mount (or put in some Astraldiamonds like in other packages) and i would really buy it. But 71 Euro or 95 is insane, it's not worth it!
Platypus wielding a giant hammer, your argument is invalild!
Well, these Dragonborns look more like turtles then dragons. But they turned out pretty much like I expected them too.
With the way clothing and armor lays over the body mesh. There was really only two ways they could do it. Make a proper beast like body, and then make special gear meshes for each and every item in game, to fit over it. Or go with what they did, and stick the turtle head on the half-orc body and call it a day.
Honestly, I don't know why they're making us pay for it... I thought this game was F2P lol, I mean it is, but really they're going to release a race that requires the user to pay to use it? And it's releasing on sale for $75... AFTER it'll be $100. Come on. I don't see this game lasting forever if this is how stuff is released.
Sorry but L-O-L
100$ mainly for a race to play and some crappy temporary enchants. REALLY?
Not even an account wide epic mount or companion in a pack that costs 100!!! Dollars.
Crypic tries really hard to make people NOT spending money on this game.
Unbelievable fail marketing and promotion.
Honestly I want to buy it, but what you get from it is not worth the pricetag. I hope cryptic will see the overal negative response to this pack and rethink their pricing.
I agree. Those 11 yes votes have got me all amazed and stuff. LOL
Yeah, you got my sarcasm right xD
Neither I find the race appealing nor I like the items in the pack. Lol I'd rather just buy an old pack that contains dire wolf and it would be way more useful than this...
I hope they will reconsider and add something else to this pack. At least a companion and mount would be great...
chaoscourtesanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2014
My thoughts are that the race needs to be free, and everyone needs to know it's free. (<--Without this, I do not care the slightest about the rest. I won't buy it on principle. Period.)
Then in the pack...
A special edition of the race
A mount (account wide)
A Pet (account wide)
Garb (BoE)
Maybe a set of specialized gear (BoE)
If ya want to sell it, an account wide Artifact.
Whatever else. The rest is filler and no one cares about it, except new players and maybe some hardcore RP'rs. (They deserve something, but they are not that many and so it's not a major selling point.)
Edit- All just my opinion. Don't ask me any silly questions like 'who are you to say..' It's my opinion and I'm the only one who can say it. heheh
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But then you really only have the Ring of Dragon Slaying, which is kinda nice for your common Draco farm.
Dragon Glyphs fade and are poor man's Dragon Marks. Bahamut Regalia as one-time use is also rather useless.
So I personally, and others might feel the same, am thinking about spending 75$ (100$) for a race, the change token, account unlocked Ring of Dragon Slaying and the artifact.
The rest is like trading for a superstar in the NBA when the other team says you have to take a bunch of bad contracts back in order to get what you want. It's stuff I don't really need but am forced to take in the package deal.
Nice to see they are reaching 10 percent of the forum customers though!
What does this mean? Human can do that too right?
No pet but that account-wide "Heart of the Red Dragon" artifact is interesting.
Does anybody know its stats?
That claw of bahamut(5% dmg against dragons) is also looks good.
Not often do I hear of expansion packs that offer several items for the price of a few full games as value.
1) They look like the 90's version of Godzilla.
2) I thought them to look more or less like the 4e teiflings save for the fact they have the same characteristics of their parent dragon with wings and a tail. Other than that they would have the same body type as their humanoid parent (ie. human, elf, ect) These just look too weird.
Humans let you add +2 to any stat. Others allow you to add +2 to this stat or that stat. DB allows you to add +2 to Any stat AND any stat.
STATS
EDIT- Should read: "The Dragonborn is the only race that allows players to add +2 to any TWO stats. "
Edit 2- I like fugly.
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
Yes i would really like to play a Dragonborn or change my current character in an Dragonborn, it's a really cool and extraordinary race but 71 Euro (I am from europe) is really expensiv and the normal price is totally insane, i mean 95 Euro... i mean... *spechless*... but i don't want to fall to deep in emotions and i want explain it by cold hard logic.
The Dragonborn Legend Pack includes following stuff:
Race: Dragonborn
There are different races in every package. From the 190 Euro package to the 50 Euro packages. It's hard to tell how much they are worth. Most of the time it's a personal thing. But i would spend 10 to 15 Euro to play as a dragonborn. (My personal preference)
But there is a major problem: No Stats! It's a blind bargain...
Fashion: Dragonborn Ceremonial
To say it loud: I dislike the idea of seperate fashion slots, i like it if i can personalize my armor with different skins to create a more unique style. But enough with my own fashion taste, most of the fashion items in your shop costs 800 to 2.000 Zen (which in my opionion is way overprized).
Fashion: Dragonborn Warrior
Like the one before. We add 800 to 2.000 Zen to the package.
Item/Fashion: Bahamut Regalia
I don't know what's up with this stuff: Reinforcments are new to me and i heard it is a new thing on the preview server for the upcoming Modul (more informations would be good). Does this mean it's like an extra enchantment or does ALL reinforcments on one Item stack? If it's like this (that they stack) this game is doomed, because you openly sell battlepower for money, even if it's against Dragons in PvE!
What bugs me the most are the items that have no level requirement. I mean it's okey for level 1 to 20 but then it's worthless ****. Okey besides the reinforcments stuff but come on! You created with the mulhorand weapons the perfect weapon gear to level your new characters. The weapons levels automatically with your character and you have the best gear every level and you can focus on farming XP, why did you stop with this kind of Leveling-Gear and replaced it with the old lame leveling gear? I mean an Mulhorand Armor would be awesome!
Item: Ring of Dragonslayer
Neat an epic ring for every character. But how usefull will it be?
Item: Gemfinder Enchantment
One free farming enchantment. In my opinion worthless and i think you made this thing like other account bound enchantments that you cannot salvage them for their refining points.
Item: Dragon Glyps (Overload Enchantmens)
Worthless, because they destroy itself after 2 hours of battle and i think you can buy or craft them later ingame, otherwise this is a real useless enchantment. I mean, why give your players really good overloading enchantments that are limited?
Item: Draconic Enchantment
One Rank 8 Enchantment is pretty nice and i like (personal preference) the stats that it can give you.
Artifact: Hearth of the Red Dragon
Really nice, an own artifact and it has a special effect if i am a dragonborn.
In the past you sold the "tayan book of the undead" for 6.000 Zen in the store and it was Green Quality too. For the book i think it was okey because it was a rare dropp of the chest and as this campaign started a new chest was established. But this was before you spammed the game with "free" artifacts with different stats and abilitys.
6.000 Zen is way out of the league of this artifact because it's green and we only now know 1 of 3 stats (even the wiki says that 2 stats are unknown). We speak from an unfinished artifact. It's like the Dragonborn race: It's a blind bargain!
But nice is that every character get one at the start.
Service: One free race change
I like it! How much will it cost later in the Zen-Store?
Service: One free character slot
Yes we expect a new class AND a new AWESOME race. Two slots in the Zen-Store cost me 500, one is 250 Zen worth.
Service/Item: 30 Slot Bag
Wow, one giant bag. It's really the biggest you can buy. The currently biggest is the 24 Bag in Zen-Store for 1.000. But only 6 Slots more i would say 1.500 Zen would be the price you are aiming (or maybe not, if you want to keep it exclusive)
After a bit Math i get to 4.270 Zen worth of equipment.
1.600 (2*800) for two fashion sets. (I set it the lowest price because i dislike it)
250 for one character slot
1.500 for one 30 Slot Bag
920 for one rank 8 enchantment (Lowest rank 8 enchantment costs 460.000 AD = 920 Zen)
Then we have a bunch of really questionable Items (Overloading Enchantments and this blue Regaliaset) one race we only now a few skins yet and no stats AND one free artifact for every character which we don't know ALL stats.
4270 Zen are ~38 Euro if i know add the race with 15 Euro (and this is still really pricy) i come to 53 Euro and i would consider the green artifact as free because i can get 6 other really good artifacts for free by simply playing the game (class artifacts) but to keep it fair we could add 20 Euro. Which means we are by 73 Euro worth in the package.
But come ON the basic price is 95 Euro and it is only temporarly lowered to 71 Euro. And 73 Euro in worth is pretty generous calculated for this package.
Make it 60 Bucks (basic costs) and 25% cheaper for the Pre-Order (45 Euro) and put in a exclusive companion/mount (or put in some Astraldiamonds like in other packages) and i would really buy it. But 71 Euro or 95 is insane, it's not worth it!
With the way clothing and armor lays over the body mesh. There was really only two ways they could do it. Make a proper beast like body, and then make special gear meshes for each and every item in game, to fit over it. Or go with what they did, and stick the turtle head on the half-orc body and call it a day.
The end results are less then spectacular.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
100$ mainly for a race to play and some crappy temporary enchants. REALLY?
Not even an account wide epic mount or companion in a pack that costs 100!!! Dollars.
Crypic tries really hard to make people NOT spending money on this game.
Unbelievable fail marketing and promotion.
Nope, the devs aren't even trying with this one.
WTB Class Reroll please
I agree. Those 11 yes votes have got me all amazed and stuff. LOL
Roland Mac Sheonin GF | Tarron Direheart SW |
Neither I find the race appealing nor I like the items in the pack. Lol I'd rather just buy an old pack that contains dire wolf and it would be way more useful than this...
I hope they will reconsider and add something else to this pack. At least a companion and mount would be great...
WTB Class Reroll please
Then in the pack...
A special edition of the race
A mount (account wide)
A Pet (account wide)
Garb (BoE)
Maybe a set of specialized gear (BoE)
If ya want to sell it, an account wide Artifact.
Whatever else. The rest is filler and no one cares about it, except new players and maybe some hardcore RP'rs. (They deserve something, but they are not that many and so it's not a major selling point.)
Edit- All just my opinion. Don't ask me any silly questions like 'who are you to say..' It's my opinion and I'm the only one who can say it. heheh
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consider it closed.