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Should Kessell's Spheres of Annihilation be doing 18k unmitigated in PvP?

cogent992cogent992 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2 Arc User
edited August 2014 in PvE Discussion
It's remarkably easy to cause all 8 orbs to hit a person who is prone or otherwise immobilized. Is this artifact considered balanced? If so I will certainly shell out for it.
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  • vaschevasche Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    It's really easy to avoid unless you are being chain proned or stunned, in which case you will die anyways. So it seems balanced to me....
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    vasche wrote: »
    It's really easy to avoid unless you are being chain proned or stunned, in which case you will die anyways. So it seems balanced to me....

    Ive never been hit with the full amount, but playing a hr lately Im not proned much either.. on my CW , if I get chainproned/stunned then landed with a IBS im dead as well..

    So I guess, ya, I dont see a major issue with it either, if your not going to set it off right on top of something, I actually think its a wasted artifact, Its really slow and easy to avoid.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Yeah, I've seen many people getting one shot by that one.

    Any way, artifact's stats are too good to pass even if it doesn't WAI. Won't affect the price much...
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  • rgladiatorgladiato Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If I'm using it then yes. If it's being used against me then no.
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    rgladiato wrote: »
    If I'm using it then yes. If it's being used against me then no.
    Pretty much nuff said.
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  • osterdracheosterdrache Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Ehm, what? Only pve 10k gs players get killed by one rotation. Decent pvp chars dont get killed when chainproned.
    I have seen a gwf get hit for over 30k dmg by this artifact.
    It is NOT wai and NOT balanced. It is a bug due AoE trigger points of the spheres. It is NOT wai that u can hit ONE enemy with ALL spheres.

    I just can warn you to spend millions on this artifact because it will be nerfed for sure.
    Already testing this further to write a bug report with screenshots.
  • vaschevasche Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Its not a bug when a player is stupid enough to stand in the middle of all the spheres.

    The whole point of using the artifact in the active slot is to activate it so that one monster is hit by as many spheres as possible in order to do maximum damage. Thats why the activation doesnt have anything like a stun or debuff. Just pure damage artifact.
  • bookedonacidbookedonacid Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    There were top end players in my pvp group last night using it, and joking about it, and saying, 'ya, this is gonna get nerfed, it's too OP. By top end I mean first 5 players of leaderboard
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    bookedonacid wrote: »
    There were top end players in my pvp group last night using it, and joking about it, and saying, 'ya, this is gonna get nerfed, it's too OP. By top end I mean first 5 players of leaderboard

    Any Artifact that is OP will eventually get nerfed. It always does. Two days before the Emblem got nerfed one of my guildies spent 10 million getting it and leveling it up. He asked why I didn't get one and I mentioned it will most likely get nerfed.

    Two days later the verdict was in.
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  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    they will probably be nerfed as many people have said.
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  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Idris can one shot ppl with the same attack, nerf her too!
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  • bookedonacidbookedonacid Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lazaroth666 wrote: »
    Idris can one shot ppl with the same attack, nerf her too!

    Who is Idris? What Pvp Guild is she in?
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    bookedonacid wrote: »
    Who is Idris? What Pvp Guild is she in?

    You can do PvP against her in the Throne of Idris t1 dungeon.
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  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lazaroth666 wrote: »
    You can do PvP against her in the Throne of Idris t1 dungeon.

    Valindra@shadowmantle has some pretty high power level too, it might be over 9000 because she can 1 hit people
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  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    crazymikee wrote: »
    Valindra@shadowmantle has some pretty high power level too, it might be over 9000 because she can 1 hit people

    Well, she has her own artifact: Shard of Valindra's Crown that is ultra OP, who would win 1v1? Idris or Valindra? I think Valindra because she would gank Idris with those noobs that comes out from the caskets.
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  • bookedonacidbookedonacid Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lazaroth666 wrote: »
    Well, she has her own artifact: Shard of Valindra's Crown that is ultra OP, who would win 1v1? Idris or Valindra? I think Valindra because she would gank Idris with those noobs that comes out from the caskets.

    But they are not in PVP..which is what this thread is addressing.
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    bookedonacid wrote: »
    Nut they are not in PVP..which is what this thread is addressing.

    Oh, Ok. :rolleyes:
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  • godlysoul2godlysoul2 Member Posts: 661 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    I've seen this artifact here and there in PvP, but personally I've never actually even been hit by 1 of the orbs. Unless it it is super easy for people to land all of them, the artifact is fine. I'd like to see damage artifacts being used instead of just waters (or DC, but that artifact also has a healing element, it time constrained, and a variety of dps/utility combinations depending on dailies slotted instead of being a true damage artifact).
  • v1rus89v1rus89 Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2014
    Seen it in pvp, hits for 20/30k no matter the class, against a good player you're gonna get chainproned and hit by it.
    It is indeed easy to dodge in solo queue against pugs.
    IMO it's gonna get nerfed as it should be.
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I've heard this as well. that said it was used against me in pvp last night and I didn't notice much damage. Certainly not 18k. How do you get all the spheres to land on one person?

    I kinda like the idea of a high damage artifact. Makes you choose more health or more damage.
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  • adamy2004adamy2004 Member Posts: 226 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    it may do alot of damage when all of the orbs hit. but think of it this way, next module alot of prones are being removed, roar is being changed so it doesnt root. it is going to get much harder for people to get close and pop this to 1 shot people.
    Don't waste my time.
  • kolevrakolevra Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I bet they nerf it. They will probably make it so it can only hit each target once or maybe twice. Still being effective AoE in PvE but not being misused as a single target burst spell.
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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I am so tired of you people that cry over stuff...
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I laughed so hard at the comments about Valindra and Idris xD
    degraafination wrote: »
    Any Artifact that is OP will eventually get nerfed. It always does. Two days before the Emblem got nerfed one of my guildies spent 10 million getting it and leveling it up. He asked why I didn't get one and I mentioned it will most likely get nerfed.

    Two days later the verdict was in.

    Yeah, same happened to Valindra's shard. It was broken benefiting the bearer. Providing almost unlimited CC resistance/immortality and also pushed bosses away. Now it just stops at the end ot the cast animation thus leaving a player hoping to get an advantage of being focuse while it's being casted, in an endless prone and death.

    What a waste of my p.vorpal really...


    Oh and they will proably nerf it next month or so. After the promo's ended.
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If it is something that takes very special skillset, practice, certain situation as a prelude etc etc.. and therefore, ultimately, a pretty rare thing to happen and its rarity being a catalyst for extreme sense of achievement when someone pulls it off -- then no reason to nerf it.

    If its something pretty easy to do and very easy to replicate, hence it doesn't take any special skill, it doesn't need clever timing or meticulous baiting, and any lame-HAMSTER FotM chaser can simply jump on the bandwagon and one shot people all the time (...prime example being the ol' Shoxecution. Just gain full AP one way or another and bam, you have a kill) -- then yeah, it needs to be nerfed.


    Personally, I've never seen it work.
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  • iwaslaggingiwaslagging Member Posts: 71
    edited July 2014
    kweassa wrote: »


    Personally, I've never seen it work.

    it might have something to do with that you dont pvp at all
  • smigvoriansmigvorian Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This Artifact definitifely needs to be fixed (e.g. max 3 SPheres can hit one Target).

    Why --> i compare it to Emblem of seldarine before it got nerfed. It destroys real interesting PvP matches (Top ten pages) just due to one item which is just OP. Im fully Black Ice geared and still get hit for 35k by all spheres. And yes it is a problem to get out when 3 GWFs are taking you down mid...

    Just fix it as fast as possible cause PvP wont be playable like that.
  • letojarred1letojarred1 Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Its a good thing I kept mine in epic, I knew thread like this would come, and followed by a favored foam based gun brand :(
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    iwaslagging wrote: »
    it might have something to do with that you dont pvp at all

    Or perhaps I simply don't suck as much those who fall for such an obvious and transparent attempt.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    Why nerf it? Someone (tried to) use it on me last night and I blocked it, taking exactly ZERO damage. If a GF can block it when the source is right in his face I do not see why the other classes cannot dodge it.

    For the record, I do not even have one myself nor can I afford one, so I have no vested interest in it.
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