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Should more items be Bound on Account?
ayroux
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Ill make this simple.
Many players - like myself - would LOVE to play more than 1-2 characters. The issue is that with each new character its getting harder and harder to keep up with all the campaigns as well as MORE importantly artifacts.
I know this has completely curbed my desire to play any new characters other than the ones I already have, not because of leveling. I enjoy leveling. But because I dont want to have to spend 30 mil AD + to get three artifacts to a decent level for use.
I have the ability to swap enchants around - so I only roughly need about 1.5 sets of enchants to do this (for options) and I keep about 3-4 perfect weapon enchants for various builds, but the BIGGEST deterrent to level a new character is thinking of ALL the painful farming it takes to do the campaigns AND artifacts.
Here is my proposition.
1) Artifacts - are bound on account and can be held in your bank to xfer over to other characters. Either this, or I also wouldnt be too opposed to making them LIKE enchants where you have to pay gold to unequip them but THEN can xfer them over - this just creates another value/gold sink.
2) Campaigns should be able to be sped up somehow with other characters as well. Give players MORe incentive to have more than one character at max level and play that - this will increase ALOT of activity.
Basically MORE items should work LIKE the slayer set does.
Thoughts?
Many players - like myself - would LOVE to play more than 1-2 characters. The issue is that with each new character its getting harder and harder to keep up with all the campaigns as well as MORE importantly artifacts.
I know this has completely curbed my desire to play any new characters other than the ones I already have, not because of leveling. I enjoy leveling. But because I dont want to have to spend 30 mil AD + to get three artifacts to a decent level for use.
I have the ability to swap enchants around - so I only roughly need about 1.5 sets of enchants to do this (for options) and I keep about 3-4 perfect weapon enchants for various builds, but the BIGGEST deterrent to level a new character is thinking of ALL the painful farming it takes to do the campaigns AND artifacts.
Here is my proposition.
1) Artifacts - are bound on account and can be held in your bank to xfer over to other characters. Either this, or I also wouldnt be too opposed to making them LIKE enchants where you have to pay gold to unequip them but THEN can xfer them over - this just creates another value/gold sink.
2) Campaigns should be able to be sped up somehow with other characters as well. Give players MORe incentive to have more than one character at max level and play that - this will increase ALOT of activity.
Basically MORE items should work LIKE the slayer set does.
Thoughts?
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Artifacts sadly no. They are currently one of the only AD sinks in the game and making them moveable would make a pretty bad situation worse.
Campaigns, sure. I don't know anyone who enjoys the ridiculous grind...
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As for campaigns - many friends of mine would like to play a new character, but SHARANDAR, god, it's sooo frustrating.
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That wouldn't be fair for them.
They can use them to refine other artifacts and have a wide variety of options, not all the artifacts are optimal for the same class.
Artifacts cannot be used to refinements afaik.
Only class artifacts can't be used as RP.
Which is a major dis-incentive to level class artifacts up unless you don't mind to lose the chance of using it to refine a better artifact of the same type in future.
i am for the earlier campaigns being sped up though the grind for sparks makes me want to destroy keyboards
We already have lvl 15s running around with 6-8 rank 10 enchants + perfect weapon enchants... Pretty sure thats arguable more gamebreaking than a 2 min CD effect or the extra stat points, and dont forget mutliple slots are unlocked at higher levels as well.... You technically can already do this as well if you have the AD and plan to keep that character.
I agree with many above, if its 20-30 million AD to make an orange... How are you supposed to do that let alone 3x on one character versus on 2 or 3....
This is the BIGGEST deterrent to playing more than 1.
If you want AD sinks, then sure, make an "unbind" token that changes it to account bound from BOE. This would make it STILL a AD sink, but much less annoying to play more than 1 toon.
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Sure if you want to completely remove the last remaining reason to replay content. Players have already gradually got fed up with the game with the release of these 3 modules.
It would definitely help to transfer artifacts via the same account. You already invested a lot of time or money into it, why should you be unable to use it just because you want to main a different character? You can transfer enchants after all and not just to your account. Then again if enchants were released now they'd probably BoP the **** out of them. The game continually adds more and more restrictions to reduce the enjoyment you can have with the game and that is just a shame.
I know it's hard to keep everyone happy, but god, you don't have to give them an easy time to dislike you cryptic...
Make the token cost for legandary like 1.5-2 million ad.
Nice AD sink, saves time for the ones who already obtained legendaries and encourages people to bring artifacts higher because they know, they are not a waste if they decide to play another character in the future.
thumbs up mate! very well said!
However, this thread does have the unfortunate timing of being made right after the enchanted keys becoming bound. I do have to say I don't like the idea of more trade items/enchant/ect. items becoming bound on account, but something like artifacts needs to happen. Otherwise I'll just keep saving the AD to invest in things that are BoA or more useful than a one per character item that may become outdated.
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The only thing I see for players who want artifacts NOT able to swap is because its an "AD sink". Well that is fine in theory, but in practice its not. Again it costs 20+million AD for 2-3 orange artifacts, and what really frustrates me is they keep changing/reworking and releasing artifacts.
Take Emblem, it was WAY too strong mod 2, but even the GREEN base version was selling for 6 mil AD. It was easily 10+mil to get to orange, yet now its worthless. This is part of my issue with it and why the should be BOAOE (or w.e).
Why do you NEED AD sinks in the first place? You get a big haircut when selling anything on the AH already - thats a sink. Some of us have TONS of AD, but if we have been playing the game why do we need AD sinks?
All it does for me is make me never want to play alternate characters since the cost is too high and so is the risk that the artifacts get nerfed or are no longer as good.
When you keep releasing new gear/artifacts and keep changing existing artifacts it seems silly these are so limited FOR THE COST.
Also I completely agree, I think anything purchased with ZEN in the shop should automatically be bound to account. This prevents anyone from going around the ZAX - which is PART of the problem with it. The other issue IMO is the 500:1 CAP - since the market cannot effectively price for the demand - which causes a backlog.
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Else, except for very rich and dedicated players, it's a pain to switch enchants again and again everytime you want to switch from one toon to another. Just, for example, if someone has a PVorpal and PSoulForged on his main toon (i mentioned the most used enchants), it would be nice to be able to get from the NPC for free the lesser Voparl and lesser Soulforged (BoP obviously) with your second toon.
Or else, make weapon - armor enchants from greater to perfect level, shared by characters of the same account, and BoA on the second character created, with a limit of 2 characters being able to share them, just to prevent the servers to get filled up with Perfect geared alts.
But at least, if you create a second toon, you don't have to spend the ridiculous amount of AD it takes now to create Weapon/ Armor enchants, twice. Cause e're talking about milions AD just like for artifacts...