who are the top 5 trickster rogues ingame atm in terms of,
Top 5 skilled and your personal top 5 personality TRs?
Dunno about top five, but usually keltz0r is rumored to be best. Almost "legendary" amongst the TR circles.
jerkface is another contendor, but I've never actually met him..
Naissur's a fun guy and he's also very good. I've actually seen him almost exclusively use the PotB based builds waaaaaaay back since early days of mod2. The build was probably known before then, but at least at that time Naissur was the one bringing it upto actual matches.
Snow's a bit trolly in the trash talking but he's a solid, excellent TR...
Scary also shows up in PuG matches time to time, he's good. Morenthar's also good..
Got trashed by Sicarius during one of the duels concerning PotB builds, was the person made me rethink the basic necessities for TRs in higher level PvP...
Frankly with the standard TR tactic so thoroughly educated to most people, the rest of the TRs in any reputable premade PvP guilds are more or less equally strong in every way, although a bit lacking in "unique" or "personal" feel.
There were also a few premade-level or almost equal level TRs who used to show up regularly in PuG games.. but I don't see them any more..
Stop making excuses. Be a man. If you know something to be broken, stop using it. Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
I predict too much drama within this topic as I've already seen many threads like this...
Anyway
I believe Ketlz0r is a good TR but I've seen some other good TRs which I could call "good rogues" too.
There are many criterias I judge someone's skill in PvP. Those are :
1) Battlefield control. You know what exactly you need to do and I mean not just sitting and permastealthing on enemy's base...
2) Good dueling skill. (Some may disagree but oh well..:/ )
3) good knowledge of your skills rotation and ability to use them properly
4) Knowledge of other classes. You won't do any good if you don't know what the other class can pull on you?.
5) The Skill of fooling the enemies which is vague and hard to explain xD Basically using your technics to buy your side some time and thus points.
6) Resistance to panic. For example your ability to calm down your nerves when there are two or even more truly experienced players are running around LOL
There are a lot very skilled tr's but in the "competitive scene" I'd say naissur, wich I had the opportunity to 1v1 so I do know how hard he can hit, you also have nocturnal, that doesnt have lv100 artifacts or perf enchants but still play flawless, sicarius (as already meantioned above), hyenas, and a lot of very good tr's that I don't really know.
Yes there are TR like that who can rock in CN same as before but they have their people to play with. Eventually they play alone if they want to ;] You will not see them in enclave really. If you do not see them it doesn't mean they don't exist. I advise you stop following stupid ideas as that TR is useless in PVE. It is good but only played by very exp, and not many TR's left in game(mostly they need more gs then other classes).TR can do everything what GWF and more, but they will not have so high dps on clearing trash. Nerfs kicked most of them out of game, and they will not go back to game which destroy some class regularly and buff to heaven other.
Tairev-TR(All kind of killing tools) Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion) Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
to do realy good in cn as a tr takes no less skill then to play highest lvl perma pvp.21hp tr with huge power are realy difficult to play op.
but most quit coz of the nerfs
I think people have problem with understanding questions. Question was about best TR not best pvp TR.
There's no point in doing a list of the best pve tr's in the game, I could tell you that the best BUILD for doing dg in solo could be a perma (nightxwingz's tr for example, that allows him to do mala 2/3 alone), or i could tell you that my 15k tr is really good in term of dps, but i do think the question is about pvp tr's
I see you do not understand some things. It is hard to change that annoying fashion now. Now what they care about in enclave is to take class which clear adds best. It doesn't matter that GWF like that will not tank draco, draco will destroy everyone with his tail on final battle, but who cares we are all dying now? WE cleared adds fast so we are happy we took that useless gwf on draco fight. In my opinion most important is to kill draco easly, by first time best. If you will fail on draco few times that killing trash record mean nothing. But you will not explain it those bots on enclave who are looking for same classes as all others. If they can tank draco well then it's fine. From experience i know it is easier for TR to tank draco perfect, so he don't spin around, than gwf. But like i said not many TR's skilled to do that.
Tairev-TR(All kind of killing tools) Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion) Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
you have to distinguish pvp and pve, because if you take a full pvp tr and put him in a dg, he will do less damage than a dc, but o **** he can do 40-0 in a dom match.
- I think the stronger TR is keltz0r.
- Keelei and BizzarreOldMan are pretty strong as TRs.
- blacksheep is a wellknown player, don't like how he fight with path of the blade, but to be honest I never seen a player using Bait and Switch like him.. pretty OP. I envy him, I guess he can fight easy against 2-3 good players.
- Enemy Team's rogue are pretty strongs
- Chocolate shoppe's rogues are strongs
- HighnessMouz is untouchable. Nobody can beat him. No wait.. he's a HR
- I think the stronger TR is keltz0r.
- Keelei and BizzarreOldMan are pretty strong as TRs.
- blacksheep is a wellknown player, don't like how he fight with path of the blade, but to be honest I never seen a player using Bait and Switch like him.. pretty OP. I envy him, I guess he can fight easy against 2-3 good players.
- Enemy Team's rogue are pretty strongs
- Chocolate shoppe's rogues are strongs
- HighnessMouz is untouchable. Nobody can beat him. No wait.. he's a HR
Mmmh sorry if I forget someone :-)
man i saw YOU easily fighting against 3 people lol
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Dunno about top five, but usually keltz0r is rumored to be best. Almost "legendary" amongst the TR circles.
jerkface is another contendor, but I've never actually met him..
Naissur's a fun guy and he's also very good. I've actually seen him almost exclusively use the PotB based builds waaaaaaay back since early days of mod2. The build was probably known before then, but at least at that time Naissur was the one bringing it upto actual matches.
Snow's a bit trolly in the trash talking but he's a solid, excellent TR...
Scary also shows up in PuG matches time to time, he's good. Morenthar's also good..
Got trashed by Sicarius during one of the duels concerning PotB builds, was the person made me rethink the basic necessities for TRs in higher level PvP...
Frankly with the standard TR tactic so thoroughly educated to most people, the rest of the TRs in any reputable premade PvP guilds are more or less equally strong in every way, although a bit lacking in "unique" or "personal" feel.
There were also a few premade-level or almost equal level TRs who used to show up regularly in PuG games.. but I don't see them any more..
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Anyway
I believe Ketlz0r is a good TR but I've seen some other good TRs which I could call "good rogues" too.
There are many criterias I judge someone's skill in PvP. Those are :
1) Battlefield control. You know what exactly you need to do and I mean not just sitting and permastealthing on enemy's base...
2) Good dueling skill. (Some may disagree but oh well..:/ )
3) good knowledge of your skills rotation and ability to use them properly
4) Knowledge of other classes. You won't do any good if you don't know what the other class can pull on you?.
5) The Skill of fooling the enemies which is vague and hard to explain xD Basically using your technics to buy your side some time and thus points.
6) Resistance to panic. For example your ability to calm down your nerves when there are two or even more truly experienced players are running around LOL
WTB Class Reroll please
I am the best TR plz.
WTB Class Reroll please
./10 char
Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
Theres no such thing as pve tr.
Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
Comprehension failure.
but most quit coz of the nerfs
There's no point in doing a list of the best pve tr's in the game, I could tell you that the best BUILD for doing dg in solo could be a perma (nightxwingz's tr for example, that allows him to do mala 2/3 alone), or i could tell you that my 15k tr is really good in term of dps, but i do think the question is about pvp tr's
Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
you have to distinguish pvp and pve, because if you take a full pvp tr and put him in a dg, he will do less damage than a dc, but o **** he can do 40-0 in a dom match.
Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
n 1 Keltz0r
n 2 Naissur.
blacksheep is nothing special, strong but far from those 2.
i remember him being beaten by naissur. with a lesser flaming
Naissur sucks and does nothing but run.
There are way better TR than him with way less enchant and a less perfect PVP roll.
- Keelei and BizzarreOldMan are pretty strong as TRs.
- blacksheep is a wellknown player, don't like how he fight with path of the blade, but to be honest I never seen a player using Bait and Switch like him.. pretty OP. I envy him, I guess he can fight easy against 2-3 good players.
- Enemy Team's rogue are pretty strongs
- Chocolate shoppe's rogues are strongs
- HighnessMouz is untouchable. Nobody can beat him. No wait.. he's a HR
Mmmh sorry if I forget someone :-)
He's right. I always run to get some good weed.
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man i saw YOU easily fighting against 3 people lol
Sorry but had to laugh about that, I beat Naissur every single fight we had.
And yeah, everybody beats me with lesser flaming, loolololol.
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Not really, just last time you used to farm me, we know like 7-0 for you.. but you were running "some" elixirs, weren't you?
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You didn't mention your well-skilled <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>
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