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[Feedback Thread] Black Ice Weapon/Armor Drops
unrealized1977
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 100
Hey Folks, The Expansion is ok, im having fun farming and fighting invisible mobs and getting killed. But please can you maybe consider moving the black ice gloves to a purchaseable item or make the black ice items that are found BOE. Because i have run Major and Epic fights now plenty of times, maybe 30-40 times each and only found 1 purple item and it was something for the professions.
I know some people have gotten black ice gloves 5x over at this point, If anything allow the armor to be purchased and make the main hand and offhand drop this way everyone has a chance to get their armor expecially those with unlucky rolls or maybe even a zen store booster that allows us to open boxes to get black ice armor/weapons or something that will increase the drop rate by x change.
Thanks for listening!
@unrealized1977
I know some people have gotten black ice gloves 5x over at this point, If anything allow the armor to be purchased and make the main hand and offhand drop this way everyone has a chance to get their armor expecially those with unlucky rolls or maybe even a zen store booster that allows us to open boxes to get black ice armor/weapons or something that will increase the drop rate by x change.
Thanks for listening!
@unrealized1977
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Gotta create a separate thread about that.
I got gloves on my DC from 3d Remorhaz. Then I killed it and all other HEs over 50 times, and haven't seen any purple drop except occasional Hammerstone offhand from Beholder. Most of the time I play with my friends, they still haven't got the gloves.
I'm in a similar situation as a GWF that might not be able to get into Kessell's as soon as I've unlocked it (corrupted belt from Icewind dale PvP campaign is only 2% and the chest/OH can only be upgraded at Tier 3).
I'm not capped out in terms of running the larger heroics, but the larger heroics don't spawn often enough. At 15.6k there is no real whine, but there is also no lack in damage output and damage soak during the larger heroics I do get into.
Some kind of failsafe needs to be in the next module like "100th click" to make sure the content can be completed. already had enough trying to farm FH for AoW boots, running in Fabled Ilyanbruen is ok, but running a 3/4 set with half a weapons set just to get into Kessell's Retreat long after it's already been explored and farmed?
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Before DD chest were added, my wizard went over 100 TOS runs and never saw a t2 drop.
/edit and Mainhand x 6
Salvaged, as I was on my GWF both times. Stupid BoP...
Taking a break from Neverwinter indefinitely...
First, just the fact that the items drop from a random encounter in the open wilds causes everyone to dog-pile instances - now I'm no expert by any means - but that's got to be a contributing factor to the horrible lag.
Then the items are BoP so you have to multiply the chance of drop by the number of class variations to get the actual chance of getting what you are after and have the heartbreak of salvaging something cool that just doesn't fit on your toon.
How about boss drops a token that you use from a vender to pick your item?
How about make the rare mob pop in a dungeon where people can't swarm the area and lag the world?
Don't use the 'rare' ticker on the box you get with 25 black ice as a reward. It's got the grey outline at the top, why say a junk reward is rare?
Oh wait!
I agree. However, what about those as reward for finishing the Epic AND Medium HEs, in addition of the Drop Chance? As a new Achievement, basically, finish all HE related Achievements, recieve a Glove/Mainhand. That then STILL means 100 Minor, 100 Major, 100 Epic HEs, which is further gated by the Spawn Rates.
Maybe split it up, at Tier 2 (50 Minor/Major/Epic each), recieve Gloves, at Tier 3 (the aforementioned 100 each) recieve Mainhand.
This would have a chance at taking LONGER, but give people the chance to aquire their full BI gear regardless.
There ya go great idea, and its not really that hard too implement either since they have done this with the Banner artifact seals - Seal of the Battlefield, well done I applaud your potential solution to an obvious problem
Weird is par for the course for me.
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I agree either start making the items BoE or BtA or standarize the drops so that a particular heroic drops only one piece of purple gear ie certain 5 man heroics drops gloves for "YOUR" class and say remorahz drops main hand, or make the remorahz drop gloves only and beholder drop main hand only which would probably make more sense.
I don't believe BI armor has a set bonus for 4 pieces (I could be wrong as the gateway is down as of this writing) BI armor relies on black ice to charge up and over load slots for extra extra powers. so not ever getting the gloves i don't think is actually detrimental other than affecting people with the mentality of "having a COMPLETE" set of something (which I am one of those).
To me with mod 4 coming out i'm inclined to think that IWD is just a pvp test and distraction for the real mod which will probably not even need or require black ice armor. Again I could be wrong but IWD seems to be equivalent to a fad and will pass with no one but pvper's playing and even at that, the pvp seems to be largely dead many of us seem to just cohabitate for dailies with the occasional break of people ambushing. The zones never since start and i've been playing has had a mother lode in the pvp zone open NEVER, not to say I didn't miss it, just saying its not active enough that someone who logs in to do dailies then runs off to do other stuff non IWD related isn't getting any pvp action from the pvp "zone". Which I personally could care less about just thought i'd throw that out there. Just another example of maybe this being a passing phase until mod 4 is out.
For the record, I have done several big heroics you can see from all over the map and tons of the lesser ones. I have only ever gotten one purple drop also NOT for my class, so if BoP is the idea here when I get a drop it needs to be for MY class i'm playing!!!
Deadlines can sometimes unfortunately require one to prioritize what major issues to address, and which minor issues to delegate to a later patch.
Not everyone is going to be satisfied with everything so they are going for a "happy medium" where most people are satisfied with most things.
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
This is actually how it is in Star Wars the Old Republic, bosses drop a token (broken armor piece) that you turn in for whatever piece of gear you want for your class so like if there are three armor sets you get a piece of the set you actually want.
LoL. This is what happens if they make a casual, easy-to-play PvE content with hardly any real challenges.
I'd say its the opposite extreme, but to think that the members of regular raiding parties in WoW can run the same content for something like twelve to twenty weeks in search of just one rare drop item they seek... compared to that... casual-content players... no patience at all. Its like walking 10 steps and demanding a medal, when other, real serious PvE enthusiasts run the whole marathon. :rolleyes:
This generation of kids who seek instant-gratification in everything... what'll they think of next, I wonder
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Please make them purchasable.
Did it ever occur that weeks of playing for one item is only for those without jobs, handicaps or no life? I mean really let me point one thing out to you ... single player games of RPG value used to aim for 30 - 60 hours of game play, 40 - 60 dollars for a game in which you the player got to experience "ALL" the content the game had to offer if you were willing to do everything in the game. Some people banged out 40 - 60 hours in one week some did it over the course of a month or several months, playing a little at a time. Regardless the content of the game was available.
Now comes in the MMO, which wants more money out of people and ideally monthly sustainable income for long term. The idea that not everyone can have whats in a game comes to pass and now we have models that reward either people who pay pay pay or in this case play play play ... groups of people (and from what I can tell probably the same groups of people that don't account for the majority of the community by any means) will farm bosses to death making it so that other players can't get the end game content as they will travel around slaying timer based mobs.
On the bright side, I can only assume this is like how television works, new content is released watch it as it comes and if you don't you have to wait a certain amount of time before its readily available. This game I bet has a similar function, in order to make the new content last close to when the next MOD comes out the pace of the game is slowed with dailies and having to farm heroics with low drop rates.
Logic and a bit of assumption tells me that as MOD 4 comes closer either the drop rate of the main hand and gloves will increase as more and more people reach the reputation caps to unlock things or they will flat change the drops and make the main hand and gloves purchasable or possibly craftable.
If not then what I see is something similar to a previous post I made, this is a fad that will pass as nothing else but this mod will require black ice gear and as the new MOD comes out this will fade by the way side with few people being able to farm for gear.
I also could be wrong and what might just happen is the 30 man mobs of people running around killing the big heroics will lesson into the more traditional 5 - 10 man guild groups thus making it easier to get the drops. As it stands now it is probably very difficult to beat out one or two 5 man guild groups fighting a heroic for gloves and mh.
Anyone want to comment on what I had to say about this?
You do realize the gloves drop off Remo and Raid the Raiders and to get the Mainhand weapon you need to do Black Ice Beholder and Prospectors Attack?
Makes no difference at all. As long as you participate and don't get the troll loot (25 raw black ice). If anything the more people around the greater the chance of successfully completing the heroic.
If your idea of challenge is to run the same unchallenging event 400 times then I feel sorry for you.
An event isn't challenging because you have to do it 400 times, an event is challenging if are having a sense of accomplishment of doing it the first time.
We have people in the guild that farmed events for 60+ hours before getting their drop. Zerging an encounter (recommended: 6-10. Actual in the event: 20+) isn't much of an accomplishment either.
Fortunately, this isn't WoW.
Flawed comparison. Currently, people that walk 10 steps a day for 2 years should get a medal while the marathon runner doesn't.
You'd be surprised how old the average player is.
Then again, maybe my toon's dice are weighted to lose.... Wouldn't surprise me after I am befuddled with the law of averages not applying to their chance rolls on enchantment upgrades....
I think you're onto something
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First tried tanking as much as possible.
Now they mention in the forums is a dps race so im put on my dps gear 10k power and 2500 critical + perfect vorpal and full timeless hero set. Went in and have done a lot of dps... And i mean a lot... There are being times that im in the heroic encounter dpsing left and right to the point when the boss always ends up targeting me... Ive crit my highest crit of all time 111k on the remorhaz ...
After all this i cant get my drop... Its stupidly how i can be alone and only reward i get is some dark rank 5 enchant, some potions and some stupid black ice.
There is definitely something going on...
On first day my tr got 2 offhand 1 gauntlet
and my gwf got 2 gauntlets and some random purple stuff...
My gf... Only <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
Im at 88 minor encounters,87 major encounters and 30 epic encounters.
I m seriously thinking about forget about this whole campaing and about completing the set...
Its stupidly absurd the farming these guys wants out of us for an item...