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lvl99looter
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Brah, it's so dang hard to get AD these days. I feel pressured into buying ZEN to sell for AD. This game is changing so much >_>! I don't wanna be a P2W...
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. . . Then add in the working of the Auction House and AD Exchange (buying low, selling high) and you'll be raking in money in no time.
Check out this guide too:
Trace's Guide to AD Creation and Wealth Building
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1. 15 chartacters....
2. That's not much.
3. We used to be able to earn about 100k without having to grind for hours, which came in handy for those who don't have a lot of time in the day to invest into the game. DK was so good to the economy xD!!
If you have the time, you'll do the professions and some grinding -> save money. If you have the money, you'll buy Zen -> save time. Of course early adopters were able to make AD quickly, but the economy has "balanced out" so you are left with how all f2p games end up.
. . . Correction: I had stated I was using Man-At-Arms on all but two of my characters. I was confused, I'm using Footmen on 13 of my 15 characters. The other two are using enough Adventurers to have two in each task while the rest only use one Footman per task.
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Can't be lazy and expect to be spoonfed.
RACIST!! Haha anyways, how long does it take you to reset professions for those 15 characters?
. . . Seriously though, only takes me about 20-30 minutes to go through and collect/reselect professions. About an hour when I meander a bit on each. I do 6-8 hour tasks unless Protect the Diamond Shipment comes up. On my two characters with blues, even those only take 8 hours. On my non-20's, I generally work Fight the Spellplague, Collect Taxes, and Battle Undead. I throw in Protect the Diamond Shipment when it comes up. On my level 20 leaders, I do the level 20 task that rewards 1600 AD, I forget its name off hand.
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It doesn't take that much time to manage their tasks. Using the Gateway and the back button to select the same task multiple times, I can run through all of them in a few minutes. It helps that I know exactly what to prioritize.
Or just make crafting ingredients (not assets) account wide. and by that I mean stuff on one character accessable on other characters, in one big pool of resources.
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Ooo, thanks!
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I just can't see myself spending an hour a day at the equivalent of a data-entry job (logging in/out, profession clicking) for 3 months just so I can EVENTUALLY have a decent amount of AD to spend on my character.
It's a little messed up that there's no decent way to make money Playing the Game, unless you happen to already be a 15k CW and can farm CN, or already have AD from when there were actually viable ways to make it and can make use of things like the wealth-building guide above.
Every MMO I've ever played, even free ones, have ways to make in-game currency. Usually they're fairly tedious but nothing compared to leadership on 11 different characters.
BtA would be better than what it is. At least you aren't stuck with salvaging an item you really need just because it's for the wrong toon because you're forced to. But there really need to be a lot more BoE items. BoP may kill the long term enjoyment of this game. People have started to leave. The old dungeons are the most profitable ones and as more content gets release, it will get less and less important while being more and more repetitive. New content will no longer be profitable or rewarding to replay once you own everything. You can get through content very quickly, but being able to replay dungeons keeps players playing so long as its rewarding and doesn't feel like a waste of time. Unless maybe they don't really care about the ones dedicated to spending there time here but prefer to cater to the ones who don't spend as much time, may pay for items and don't blitz through content which would be a shame. What kept me playing was being in a guild filled with other skilled players and farming profitable dungeons. So far dungeons feel less profitable and CN is a little repetitive after doing it for so long so a lot of people left. It's be nice to farm mc/vt for a change of scenery but it's just not worth the effort or more importantly the time. I'd like to continue playing, but so far my play time has been pretty much being a bot for focusing on my professions rather than actually playing or having fun. I've also been playing preview which is a nice change of scenery but with the artifact looking like the only boe item (and presumably a rare drop). It'll look like we're gonna spend 1-2 month doing the campaign and back to doing nothing ):.
To me the campaign systems seem artificially prolonged with repetitive quests. Of course I like repeating dungeons for the loot because it made playing rewarding rather than the campaign where I just want to finish it as soon as possible to be done with it. I play coz I like the feeling of progression and the combat here is enjoyable once I have all my gear though, if most of the drops are bop I don't feel like I'm really progressing. So at that point I'll continue crafting for progress and not really playing ):. I kind of hope things change to get me to actually keep playing, but I'm not so sure. I'm also a person who can keep playing for more than I should just to keep progressing. Most people would probably just get bored and leave. I feel like that will happen to most of the top pve guys. The pvp guys still have a ladder to look forward to, and hope they get to see another pvp map or more even though I kind of hate it.
I actually feel bad for new players, having multiple toons to get a steady supply of AD shouldn't be a requirement, but the income you can earn in game is getting lower and lower unless you do that. It's also a pretty boring task so not for everyone. Personally I'm glad I did, I have 12 level 20 leadership toons on 2 accounts and not far off from 16. I considered getting some more with the char slot sale and 2x xp coming up but I think I have enough work to maintain them and hope it will be enough for me. With 13k per day which isnt hard to do with 6x destroy enemy camps, and can exceed that with protect diamond shipment, 12 toons will give me 156k per day or just over 1m AD a week. However it's been a long journey to get this far and took a lot of investment in adventurers and man-at-arms (which aren't required of course, but adds convenience). I've also managed to do a lot of cn runs when it was a lot more profitable. I also invest ad into stuff that I think will make a profit in the long term. I've really only managed to get to this position by having too much free time though. Most people don't have the luxury. If they're in it for the long term, leadership will definitely help and level multiple leadership toons at the same toons so you don't need to repeat it all over again. Most people should be able to get by with playing 1 toon, whether they do nowadays I'm not so sure. I'm just glad I'm not one of them
I've also spent some money on zen, some for investing, some not. Some being horrible investments... I feel like I get more value from my AD income though due to high costs.
Edit: wth, how did I type so much
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That's a long time. Seriously, making the profession tab account shared would really help out. Mailing people/tools back and forth every day is a huge hassle. It's not like our individual characters are lugging a pack of adventurers on their backs.
There are a few things the devs could do to make life a lot easier on people with many alts - for instance, they could add a "collect all" button on the profession tab in the gateway, which collects all completed tasks. They could also add an "open all" option to the menu that comes up when you click a stack of the leadership chests/boxes.
If I'm in a hurry, I just click collect for the completed tasks, click to the inventory tab and hit refine, click the SCA tab to get the daily reward, then back to the profession tab to setup the next batch of tasks. There are enough tasks that I can setup to fill all my slots, (I mostly have 7 per character with 20 leadership) - 3 x destroy enemy camp, 3 x fight off spellplagued, 1 x destroy undead - these don't require any special resources, so I can always set them up. I have 8 characters, (7 w/ maxed leadership), and it takes about 2 minutes to set everything up per character.
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Yeah, but you hit the cap of 24k rough AD a day pretty fast.
When good things cost millions of AD it's not all that helpful.
Maybe if they let the skirmish hour give you 1k refined AD, it would help.
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For instance in Alpha it was suggested that we should be given a workshop where we could directly interact with assets and see them working.
Perhaps this idea could be re-envisioned to be a location (in game only) where you could assign tasks for all characters on the account at once without a sea of UI navigation or character swapping.
But even as Bioshrike said just having a collect all (especially account wide) would be a huge boon.
In truth most of the time 20-30 minutes Zeb and I experience are from a lack of UI Optimizations such as clicking "Close" when collecting rewards or manually entering tasks instead of having a one click button to do the same task.
. . . I would love a "Repeat all" and "Collect All" buttons.
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