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Why do people find Wolf Den so hard?
alvadimarco
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I have an alt. Woo, amazing. My alt is in that level range where the Daily Dungeon is Grey Wolf Den.
Trust me. If I could solo it, I would. I can't, however, so that's the end of that.
Out of ... fifteen or so attempts to clear Wolf Den for the daily, exactly three attempts have been successful. The third attempt was only successful because the end boss glitched her way into the spawn area and we could fight her endlessly without resetting even if all of us died.
Admittedly I queue for the dungeon instead of getting an actual group together, mostly because I literally don't know anyone, but the specifics of why are irrelevant to this thread and so I will move on quickly.
The mechanics aren't that difficult if you pay attention to them - the biggest thing is simply that you need to know how to avoid getting hit with that sword. As a GF I admit my dodging is ...subpar, but many times it seems like I'm the only person who's actually trying to do any. I also notice that nobody stops trying to DPS Race the boss in order to clear adds before they overwhelm us; this usually results in a wipe.
So, like in the title, I want to know: What makes people find Grey Wolf Den so hard to clear? Is the mechanic too complicated? Has the leveling up to that point not encouraged learning to dodge and instead taught players to facetank everything? It can obviously be cleared, as we did it (slowly and carefully) with just an on-level GF, TR and HR.
Thoughts? Discussion? Anyone?
Trust me. If I could solo it, I would. I can't, however, so that's the end of that.
Out of ... fifteen or so attempts to clear Wolf Den for the daily, exactly three attempts have been successful. The third attempt was only successful because the end boss glitched her way into the spawn area and we could fight her endlessly without resetting even if all of us died.
Admittedly I queue for the dungeon instead of getting an actual group together, mostly because I literally don't know anyone, but the specifics of why are irrelevant to this thread and so I will move on quickly.
The mechanics aren't that difficult if you pay attention to them - the biggest thing is simply that you need to know how to avoid getting hit with that sword. As a GF I admit my dodging is ...subpar, but many times it seems like I'm the only person who's actually trying to do any. I also notice that nobody stops trying to DPS Race the boss in order to clear adds before they overwhelm us; this usually results in a wipe.
So, like in the title, I want to know: What makes people find Grey Wolf Den so hard to clear? Is the mechanic too complicated? Has the leveling up to that point not encouraged learning to dodge and instead taught players to facetank everything? It can obviously be cleared, as we did it (slowly and carefully) with just an on-level GF, TR and HR.
Thoughts? Discussion? Anyone?
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I completed the regular one with PUGs on my RolePlay alt without any kind of difficulty. The Epic version though is less forgiving. It's a pleasant and tense fight but it's easy to miss a dodge, as Cryptic has implemented no ping-compensation mechanism.
If you simply put the pets away and stay out of the red, you can reduce the shadow wolf spawns to nil.
Which is annoying.
The most important thing to do is if the wolves spawn you must kill them first. They do insane damage compared to anything else.
That answer your question?
Although i think he follows with a sword attack if your proned.
Add that to a (fairly) inexperienced playerbase at that level, maybe even to MMO's entirely, it's no surprise that people have a hard time adjusted to the difficulty.
Would you mind posting your character sheet and gear?
Data: there are GIANT RED CIRCLES on the ground and the boss makes a SLOW AND OBVIOUS motion to summon them, lasting 2-3 seconds.
Solution: Learn to dodge
Outcome: Dungeon is easy.
Everything you need to know about CW:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
It's also this particular character's Daily Dungeon for a couple more levels yet and part of the leveling questline. Maybe you forgot that dungeons exist outside of epics?
I'm not sure what difference posting my character sheet full of mid-level blues would make in regards to everyone else being unable/unwilling to dodge and dying before I do. Again, we aren't talking about epic dungeons here.
Yeah this ^ , only reason I bothered with the regular version was for the cool title , 'leader of the pack ' xD
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If nothing else, come back to it at level 60. Then you can smack those little wolfies around like a vengeful god, all by yourself. You honestly miss nothing by putting the dungeon on the shelf for a bit and coming back to it later.
As stated, I've already got a couple of completions; I was just running it since it was the daily for that character and I like a challenge. I just wonder why it's so difficult for people to not completely fail the encounter mechanics even after you've explained them three times before the fight starts.
Pugs will be pugs, I guess.
LOL.. I was wondering where I got that title from! I went in and helped a lower-level friend complete it. A guildie and I went in and the three of us finished the last fight. Some time later I noticed the title and I was like.. hmmm I don't remember a motorcycle quest...
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forget guardian fighters, i have tanked every other t1/t2 boss as a rogue but this boss was just silly.
despite all that, nearly won as a 3-4 man group because most of the group was overgeared. won the 1st time once a 5th person finally joined.
still, i consider spellplague/karrundax to have easier boss fights to go through despite the dependecy on wizards. at least the other bosses can't prone me through ITC >.>