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Ant-Monster • Just in case you guys didn't know (GFs).
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• Indomitable Strength (IS) is no longer a MUST HAVE daily because of the Iron Vanguard GWF, and the "Perma Stealth Rogue." I HIGHLY recommend you switch I.S. for Supremacy of Steel (S.o.S.), and USE a Plague Fire (P.F.)!! So what does that mean? It means when fighting GWFs or TRs while SoS active, they will receive EXTRA damage because they're debuffed. Switch Bull Charge for Griffin's Wrath for burst damage when fighting these 2 classes! SoS only last so long, and you don't waste time chasing people down after hitting them with a bull charge (especially while fighting a TR and they're invisible), plus they won't stay prone as long as they used too =/... So wat'chu do is MARK (debuff), Tide of Iron (debuff), Frontline, Griffin's Wrath, Lunging Strike.
• Keep Villan's Menace for your second Daily when fighting ANNOYING CWs and HRs -.-....... Although SoS works even BETTER on them because they're squishy, it's not worth it because you can still be controlled and while controlled that's precious time being wasted for SoS.
• As a GF, your biggest threat is the CW. ALWAYS kill the CW first. My personal priority list goes like this CW > TR > HR/DC > GWF > GF. However, this can vary based on the situation. Make sure you force the CW to waste his dodges before blowing your powers. The best way to do this is by using Threatening Rush to close the gap, and then immediately BLOCK after. This will add pressure to the CW, and he will start teleporting after wasting his powers on your shield.
• Vorpal is nice in all, but with the recent nerfs I rather increase my base damage than my spike damage (crits). For example, without a PF, the first hit of cleave on a GWF hits 300-400's... With PF I can hit 800-900's. Although I have a 21% crit chance on my GF, that's still not enough for it to be worth it for me.
(I will finish this later. I just wanted to spread the word that SoS stacks PF, and works REALLY well with Life Steal).
• Keep Villan's Menace for your second Daily when fighting ANNOYING CWs and HRs -.-....... Although SoS works even BETTER on them because they're squishy, it's not worth it because you can still be controlled and while controlled that's precious time being wasted for SoS.
• As a GF, your biggest threat is the CW. ALWAYS kill the CW first. My personal priority list goes like this CW > TR > HR/DC > GWF > GF. However, this can vary based on the situation. Make sure you force the CW to waste his dodges before blowing your powers. The best way to do this is by using Threatening Rush to close the gap, and then immediately BLOCK after. This will add pressure to the CW, and he will start teleporting after wasting his powers on your shield.
• Vorpal is nice in all, but with the recent nerfs I rather increase my base damage than my spike damage (crits). For example, without a PF, the first hit of cleave on a GWF hits 300-400's... With PF I can hit 800-900's. Although I have a 21% crit chance on my GF, that's still not enough for it to be worth it for me.
(I will finish this later. I just wanted to spread the word that SoS stacks PF, and works REALLY well with Life Steal).
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The terror is a decent debuff IMO. It's instant, so you don't have wait for stacks. However I like the DoT from the PF for knocking people off mounts, and the debuff is larger allowing me to do more damage when possible.
But I think its better to just ignore villians menace and use SoS and indomitable, becuase indomitable's prone/throw is still very useful. As you said before that SoS is great vs wizards too, it ticks off their dots.
And i think CW/HRs are the top priority, over rogue, can't let those pesky HR's spam aimed shot, though if i see someone else attacking them i will choose something else.
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Tangentially, it seems to work pretty nicely in PvE for a GWF rotation that uses a leading encounter prior to their IBS.
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SoS VS "fine" players : wtf i lose my daily because they kite me and when SoS end, they r*pe me.
---> Find another argument for GF able to win VS GWF/HR etc...
...Since vorpal is purely not worth it cuz of the tenacity and lets be real GF cant go more then 22% critical chance
...GPF stacks do not last long enough for a GF to manage and do his combo.In other words the gap between encounter cooldowns and stack-last-time is too big so you do not use this enchant on its full potential in PvP.
The debuff that Bronzewood apply is party-wide so this means not only you can benefit from it.It gives u enough time ( about 8 seconds per target ) to do your full combo rotation + daily.Its a constant dmg buff which in the long run gives your class and your teammates higher dps performance.Also it applies directly to the target's DR...not like GPF who debuffs only defense, so if your target has low defense the enchants becomes almost worthless.
^All this is in concern about PvP
Very interesting. I wasn't aware that Bronzewood debuffed your target for the whole party. I thought it was just the GF that benefited from it, hence I stuck with PF as I reasoned it was benefiting the party as well as myself.
I'm pretty sure Bronzewood only applies for the wielder. I think we did tests on it a while back. It also says "YOUR at-will and encounter powers ignore 16%..." implying it only affects you.
Then it's a huge waste of a daily. SoS needs to be reworked to give us healing if we aren't attacked when we use it...or something of that order so it becomes useful at the high end of pvp.
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
We test that aswell recently before i started using it and the thing we noticed was the opposite of what you are saying.
Its pretty hard to read the combat log and make conclusions from that.
But right now its really easy with the preview server ...your teammates can see the debuff icon over your target.
SoS can heal you a lot if stack Life Steal.
SoS doesn't currently do enough damage to always dissuade my IV sent from continuing to smack you. Seems to depend on the GF, but I tend to test it out with an at will rotation, if it hurts me too much...kiting time.
What's the cool down for Bronzewood?
Debuff lasts for 10 seconds.
Of course.
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/3dqpvhuavj
The large bold numbers on the left are the percentages to stop at?
2k recovery 19.8%
3k recovrey 22.19%
No, there's not really a set place to stop- it's a judgement call.
The way it works is that at lower amounts, you get a bigger percentage increase per point of recovery. That's when the graph is steep. Later on, as amount of recovery stat increases, the line is less steep, meaning that each point of recovery gets you less recharge increase. It it becomes worse "value".
Essentially, the judgement call you have to make is how much you want recovery, as it becomes worse and worse value. Obviously, every time you gem for recovery, you could be gemming for something else too- so it's a trade-off, the stats balancing puzzle that you're used to.
Some builds of some classes might want a certain amount to make a particular rotation possible etc., and sometimes people just decide in pure value terms. I would personally say that unless you have a specific hard aim in mind for a certain rotation, that it's not worth pushing it past 2500-3000 or so. It's really crummy value after that.
Other people wouldn't agree.
Don't worry too much about the consensus on softcaps though, sometimes it's worth pushing it a bit to find interesting setups- I have done that on my GWF before with lifesteal. I got a very ill-informed lecture from a guildie about how I was wrong and the universe would end because I had more than 1500. Ignoring him made my gear at the time viable in VT, until I could get the upgrades I wanted.
TL;DR- Stop at 2500, unless there's a specific stupid trick you are trying out, which needs more
Well said, I agree with you on almost everything
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC