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What to do with all the artifacts I don't need?

black807black807 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 15 Arc User
edited March 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
I currently have two Eye of Lathander and one Lantern of Revelation that are bound to my character, I can't even email them to another of my characters. Is there anything you can do with these account bound items other than discard them?
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  • thrufuthrufu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Use them to refine other artifacts.
  • tornnomartornnomar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    This^^^

    They are like 7,500 points. Whenever I pull another Eye, it feeds the one equipped.
    I'm not sure how much they are worth if used for a different artifact.
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  • black807black807 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Thanks for the quick replies, I didn't know you could use them to refine other aritfacts. That makes sense.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Just remember that you get a MUCH better Return on Investment if you LvL up that second artifact before you dump it into the other one ( I think that LvL 59 is considered the ideal).
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  • helloz2helloz2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 205 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    tornnomar wrote: »
    This^^^

    They are like 7,500 points. Whenever I pull another Eye, it feeds the one equipped.
    I'm not sure how much they are worth if used for a different artifact.

    It gives 5x bonus points if it's the same type of artifact. (Union to Union), thus it would be 1,500 if you used the Eye on a artifact of Power/Stability.
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    Just remember that you get a MUCH better Return on Investment if you LvL up that second artifact before you dump it into the other one ( I think that LvL 59 is considered the ideal).

    This is really important otherwise you will kick yourself about the amount of AD you lost...
  • niadanniadan Member Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Do not use artifacts for refinement without leveling them to 59 first. What a HUGE waste if you do!
  • black807black807 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Can`t see how it makes sense to take a level 1 artifact and level it to 59 just to use it to level another artifact. Why wouldn`t I just use all those refining points to level the artifact I want to get to 59.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    black807 wrote: »
    Can`t see how it makes sense to take a level 1 artifact and level it to 59 just to use it to level another artifact. Why wouldn`t I just use all those refining points to level the artifact I want to get to 59.

    You get more Refining Points out of it than you put in.
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  • black807black807 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I should ask questions here more often(: Thanks for the good advice.
  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    black807 wrote: »
    Can`t see how it makes sense to take a level 1 artifact and level it to 59 just to use it to level another artifact. Why wouldn`t I just use all those refining points to level the artifact I want to get to 59.

    It takes ~300k Refining Points to make an artifact lvl 59. When you feed said lvl 59 artifact into an artifact of the same type, it will give you a minimum of ~616k Refining Points (if it does not crit). If you are lucky and it crits for 2x, then you just made your lvl 1 artifact into a lvl 81 artifact (if I remember correctly). Even without critting, you will still get way more Refining points for simply making it lvl 59.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    Does anyone have the value of refining points if you feed the artifact to a similar one at level 1?
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    rashylewizz wrote: »
    Does anyone have the value of refining points if you feed the artifact to a similar one at level 1?

    I'm pretty sure it's 7500
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  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure it's 7500

    As someone who made this mistake (once;) ) I can confirm that it is indeed 7500.
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  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Thanks for the info for the artifacts, I did not realize it. However it is taking me *forever* to get my current artifacts to level 59, let alone an artifact that I would want to feed into an existing one. How do you quickly level an artifact to 59?
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    Thanks for the info for the artifacts, I did not realize it. However it is taking me *forever* to get my current artifacts to level 59, let alone an artifact that I would want to feed into an existing one. How do you quickly level an artifact to 59?

    You try to find something cheep in the way of Runes, Enchants, or Refining Stones on the A.H.
    Also, if you are in a position to get them, you can get some special Utility Enchants in Sharendar(sp?) that will give you a chance at an enchant with every kill. A cheaper alternative would be the Tymora's Utility Enchants which give you a chance at a big bag-o-<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> that just MIGHT have a low-level refining stone in it.
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  • sapientsatissapientsatis Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    black807 wrote: »
    I currently have two Eye of Lathander and one Lantern of Revelation that are bound to my character, I can't even email them to another of my characters. Is there anything you can do with these account bound items other than discard them?

    Man, I hate you. Almost 2 month of runing dread ring dungeons with 4 characters and still no arts. Gratz on your luck though =)
    Feed your arts with enchantments and then fuse it into the one you use. 5 rank enchantments are the best option for feeding. Those can crit and quite cheap. Don't feed with peridots and other gems.
  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    sapientsatis wrote: »
    Don't feed with peridots and other gems.
    Why not, if I may ask?
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  • sapientsatissapientsatis Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    nameexpired wrote: »
    Why not, if I may ask?
    Enchantments and rune stones have x2 multiplier on fusing with arts. Rank 5 ench gives you 1024 refinement points and can crit. Peridot - only 500 and can not crit. So enchantments are more profitable.
  • wingedkagoutiwingedkagouti Member Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    sapientsatis wrote: »
    Enchantments and rune stones have x2 multiplier on fusing with arts. Rank 5 ench gives you 1024 refinement points and can crit. Peridot - only 500 and can not crit. So enchantments are more profitable.
    I'd change this to say "don't buy Peridots to refine with", the ones you find naturally should of course be used unless you want to sell stacks of 99 on the AH.
  • sapientsatissapientsatis Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Yes, that was why i said "more profitable" :) Anyway, it's much faster to get AD for stack of 99 enchs/peridots, then farming such amount naturally.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I'd recommend using your peridots, etc. to refine anything that's too expensive to refine with anything that will grant a match bonus, like if you have a plaguefire or vorpal enchantment. (I'm more than 2/3 of the way to making a greater plaguefire from consolidating the peridots once a week or so.)

    Since artifacts can get a match bonus from pretty much anything else, there are just better ways to use your peridots unless you've really not got anything else to dump them in to.
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  • morsitansmorsitans Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,284 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    Bear in mind that you don't HAVE to level an artifact up to 59 just to use it as RP, this is simply the optimal point to do so if you want to maximise your RP gain. Beyond level 59, you essentially lose more in AD buying the potency mark & wards than you stand to gain from the additional RP.

    At all points from 1 up to 59, it's always BETTER to get it higher before dumping it into your artifact, but it's not essential. Get it as high as you can be bothered.
  • docsc00terdocsc00ter Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Okay. So let me make sure I understand this.

    One of my Artifacts is currently at Level 81. I've been dumping enchants I don't need, pearls, etc. into it, and it is very slowly gaining levels.

    But it would be faster to take the same kind of Artifact, level that one up to 59, and then dump it into my 81 instead of continuing to work directly on the Level 81 thing?
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    docsc00ter wrote: »
    Okay. So let me make sure I understand this.

    One of my Artifacts is currently at Level 81. I've been dumping enchants I don't need, pearls, etc. into it, and it is very slowly gaining levels.

    But it would be faster to take the same kind of Artifact, level that one up to 59, and then dump it into my 81 instead of continuing to work directly on the Level 81 thing?

    Sort-of - it is only really worth if the second artifact is 'free' so basically people do this for additional Eyes or Skulls.

    I am not quite sure if you would get better RP on average taking into account possible crits
     by dumping the Level 81 into the new one (assuming both are the same type) but that is another story.
  • hustin1hustin1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,462 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You think that's bad? I have 1 bound and 5 unbound rust monsters. If Cryptic ever implements housing, I want the ability to build them a lair!

    (and then I want the ability to capture monsters for them to terrorize in said lair)
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