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[GWF]Iron Vanguard or Swordmaster for PVE?

metaphoricrometaphoricro Member Posts: 15 Arc User
edited March 2014 in The Militia Barracks
Which is the best,Iron Vanguard or Swordmaster for PVE?
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  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    metaphoricro wrote: »
    Which is the best,Iron Vanguard or Swordmaster for PVE?
    I prefer Iron Vanguard as Threatening Rush, Frontline Surge, Indomitable Strength and Trample the Fallen are amazing.

    The only thing, in my opinion, that Swordmaster has that is better then any of those is Weapon Master's Strike.

    That being said, Weapon Master's Strike is stupid good, and I know many successful Swordmaster PvE GWFs... So whatever set you like better, I say rock it bud! :cool:
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  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    In what way do you use WMS so that you get good benefit from it? (Provided it is feated in the Destroyer tree of course.) What I have tended to do is to take a couple of hacks using WMS in order to proc the debuff and then use either SS or WS the rest of the time. Is this incorrect?
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    pointsman wrote: »
    In what way do you use WMS so that you get good benefit from it? (Provided it is feated in the Destroyer tree of course.) What I have tended to do is to take a couple of hacks using WMS in order to proc the debuff and then use either SS or WS the rest of the time. Is this incorrect?
    You do that, and then follow up with Encounter Powers.

    WMS + At-Will + WMS + Encounter = Repeat.

    Hope that helps!
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  • helloz2helloz2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 205 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    kolatmaster wrote: »
    I prefer Iron Vanguard as Threatening Rush, Frontline Surge, Indomitable Strength and Trample the Fallen are amazing.

    The only thing, in my opinion, that Swordmaster has that is better then any of those is Weapon Master's Strike.

    That being said, Weapon Master's Strike is stupid good, and I know many successful Swordmaster PvE GWFs... So whatever set you like better, I say rock it bud! :cool:

    Hey, you forgot Crescendo! ;)

    And yea I think either Paragon Path works well in PVE as long as it's Destroyer.
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  • jmikezjmikez Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    debuff with WMS, Lantern, Then unload everything including crescendo with a decent team = phase 2 valindra :P

    but both are good if you learn how to use it PVE wise. i go back and forth between IV/SM when i get bored with 1 setup. =D
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    My problem now is that when I play my Swordmaster, I keep trying to Threatening Rush to things, which does not work very well.
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  • eton3000eton3000 Banned Users Posts: 230 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    IV sentinel for dummies, big room for error, smash keyboard and still win
    not on par with destroyer but hey at least youre full of swag in pvp
  • zacazuzacazu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,934 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    hmmm ... sm is a versatile way to pve that was overhanging the potential over time, either with a series of nerfs - which today does not make sense - either by the dynamics of the class / game.

    iv seems better suited to the scenario: control and blow up everything as fast as possible before someone do it for you.

    blow it up as soon as possible using the sm is so possible in pve, but ... god, how complicated.

    play with sword master is "cult" ... haha
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    insitigator iron vangourd works great for me in pve and pvp
  • spicenspicen Member Posts: 248 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    insitigator iron vangourd works great for me in pve and pvp

    Mind sharing your personal preferences via PM? I'm lvling GWF currently, and while my aim is to mostly do pve with it, I propably would like to try out pvp aswell. I've already decided I want to go IV but don't want to play sentinel, and I heard most ppl play destroyer for pve but I want something different. :cool: So that lead me to Instigator which I would like to try out.
  • wixxgs1chtwixxgs1cht Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    IV Hybrid works like a charm as well. I think there's nothing like THE best build - each excels at some point while being inferior at another.
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    I would say is about the gear lvl.

    IV is better at low lvl gear where u can use trample of the fallen for extra dmg with battle trample, mind that slam procs trample and threatening rush+powerfull challenge.

    Swordmaster does need a higher gs and experience to play it at full potential.
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