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akmadjdakmadjd Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2014 in PvE Discussion
I don't understand how you can have such a <horrible> system. What's the point of having a timed auction...but the auction just stops permitting bids at some SECRET time?

I bid on an auction at 10 minutes left. Someone outbids me at 1:00 minute...but I just get to sit there and stare even though there is supposedly 59 seconds left????


So <horrible>. So counter-intuitive.
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  • karitrkaritr Member Posts: 662 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    The auction in game does not display seconds, so seems to think the auction is closed at 59s to go. If you want a chance of being highest bidder you are forced to use the Gateway to bid in the last minute. Ridiculous, I know.
  • cinj216cinj216 Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well the funny thing is, the auctions will stop letting me bid at 47 seconds, and yet around the time there are a few seconds left I will suddenly get outbidded even though my shot at it has long since passed. Regardless of how people are achieving it, there are clearly people who have an unfair advantage on the AH.

    I've tried using the Gateway, but it loads the listings so **** slowly the auction will be long gone by the time it gets around to displaying anything.
  • akmadjdakmadjd Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Can someone explain the "gateway"???
  • cinj216cinj216 Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    akmadjd wrote: »
    Can someone explain the "gateway"???

    Neverwinter Gateway

    Check it out for yourself. Between the horribly slow AH interface and the profession thing that has a better chance of eating your rewards than giving them to you, you're really not missing much by not using it, in my opinion.
  • ryvvikryvvik Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 966 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Yeah this is crazy has happened to me and guildmate 1 min to go winning bid, only to find you lose.
  • nichivonichivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 83
    edited July 2013
    It could be worse you could have bid on an ancient off hander, the auction expire, then never get either the winning bid mail or the outbid mail and be out all your AD and not have the item either. Do not even get me started on what appears to be a total lack of customer support for even paying players. I'll update this if they even bother responding to the support ticket.
  • cinj216cinj216 Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Just got finished losing an auction that I've been camping out for a couple days now. Tried the gateway trick and it gave me a "Your bid has failed message" and in-game an error came up that said "An unknown error occurred while bidding". Despite there being time left and my bid being higher than the one that ultimately got it, the game pretty much gave me the finger and told me to **** off.

    Just another case of the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor, in my book. One more nail being driven into the coffin that is Neverwinter. I wonder why I even still bother with this steaming pile.
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    This might have been implemented deliberately to discourage "sniping".
  • karitrkaritr Member Posts: 662 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    cinj216 wrote: »
    Just got finished losing an auction that I've been camping out for a couple days now. Tried the gateway trick and it gave me a "Your bid has failed message" and in-game an error came up that said "An unknown error occurred while bidding". Despite there being time left and my bid being higher than the one that ultimately got it, the game pretty much gave me the finger and told me to **** off.

    Just another case of the rich getting richer and the poor staying poor, in my book. One more nail being driven into the coffin that is Neverwinter. I wonder why I even still bother with this steaming pile.

    The trouble with both instances is they don't update the highest bid fast enough. When you know you are not the only person trying for the last bid and it is for an item you really want, the safest thing to do when bidding in the last minute is to ignore what the last highest bid shows and throw a proportional amount on top to stop people outbidding you.
  • katbozejziemikatbozejziemi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The ability to use the AH from your browser was a brilliant idea, it made creating bots/scripts for it that much easier.
  • stdcallstdcall Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    karitr wrote: »
    The trouble with both instances is they don't update the highest bid fast enough. When you know you are not the only person trying for the last bid and it is for an item you really want, the safest thing to do when bidding in the last minute is to ignore what the last highest bid shows and throw a proportional amount on top to stop people outbidding you.
    doesn't work.
    There was a piercing berserker belt yesterday for a ridiculously low price like 150k ad current bid (usually 350+)
    I've bid 160k when 1m 02s (roughly) left, and for a minute I was happy that I've bought it for that price watching the timer counting down from 59s to zero. The button "place the bid" was grey for me.
    I was outbid in the last seconds for a minimum possible outbid value like 161600. The button was still grey.
    There is definetely a some kind of exploit or feature, whatever you call it
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, their AH is a terrible system. I've stopped trying the bidding war. My time is better spent crafting, PVPing, and doing Epic DDs. I'll sell that loot for ADs and go from there.
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  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    akmadjd wrote: »
    I don't understand how you can have such a <horrible> system. What's the point of having a timed auction...but the auction just stops permitting bids at some SECRET time?

    I bid on an auction at 10 minutes left. Someone outbids me at 1:00 minute...but I just get to sit there and stare even though there is supposedly 59 seconds left????


    So <horrible>. So counter-intuitive.

    If you think that is <horrible>, I've lost bids I placed and at minus two minutes I was the top bidder.
  • karitrkaritr Member Posts: 662 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    stdcall wrote: »
    doesn't work.
    There was a piercing berserker belt yesterday for a ridiculously low price like 150k ad current bid (usually 350+)
    I've bid 160k when 1m 02s (roughly) left, and for a minute I was happy that I've bought it for that price watching the timer counting down from 59s to zero. The button "place the bid" was grey for me.
    I was outbid in the last seconds for a minimum possible outbid value like 161600. The button was still grey.
    There is definetely a some kind of exploit or feature, whatever you call it

    Strange. I've never had the button grey out when bidding from the Gateway.
  • airy0skytesairy0skytes Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Just had this happen to me twice @ 30 sec. left and my button greyed even though I had manually added a higher bid (then the auto amount) by 2k in the bid column. Wonder if Gateway allows you to bid in the last minute countdown ? Would be nice if someone could confirm this.
  • battlestationvbattlestationv Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Just had this happen to me twice @ 30 sec. left and my button greyed even though I had manually added a higher bid (then the auto amount) by 2k in the bid column. Wonder if Gateway allows you to bid in the last minute countdown ? Would be nice if someone could confirm this.

    gateway allows you to bid up to 10 seconds after the timer expires in game i believe
  • facexcontrolfacexcontrol Member Posts: 281
    edited November 2013
    i didnt kno untill today that u cant bid when they are 30 or less seconds left on the bid.
    Is should be mentioned somewhere ... i lost alot thow
  • calvin1tagcalvin1tag Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    System is horrible. I don't even bother anymore for items unless it has a buyout price and I can just buy it instantly
  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    In an auction usually the auction time has to be prolonged if the last bid was with 1 minute of auction close.
    But that might be just my idea of an auction!
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited November 2013
    Thank you all for the feedback! Please continue but let's do refrain from harsh words of a mean demeanor. Thanks!
  • muhacmuhac Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This Thread is kinda Necro xD
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  • turgurlasturgurlas Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Is there anyway to cancel my auction.... I have put up an item for auction, just for it to tell me that I can't take it down.
    then when I try to bid on my own item, it puts a bid on something different!!? How can I cancel that bid and get my own item back?
  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    turgurlas wrote: »
    Is there anyway to cancel my auction.... I have put up an item for auction, just for it to tell me that I can't take it down.
    then when I try to bid on my own item, it puts a bid on something different!!? How can I cancel that bid and get my own item back?

    1. Once anyone bids on an item, its locked in until the expiration time or until someone buys it out.
    2. This is a necro, you could have easily asked in a new thread.
  • turgurlasturgurlas Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    well that blows. so i lost some astral diamonds.
    really noobed to the forums here.
  • adetherareadetherare Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    Thank you all for the feedback! Please continue but let's do refrain from harsh words of a mean demeanor. Thanks!

    Please fix the AH. It does shut out a huge section of the game with it being so utterly at the whim of the gods. I keep getting "Your bid was unsuccessful. Please try again later" messages, which are almost mocking in timed auctions.
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    a lot of time has passed since this thread was created and so many things have occurred in the auction hall since then. as a matter of fact, more things are about to happen to the auction hall in mod 3.

    so, it has come to pass that kelemvor is calling back one of his own: this thread.

    we do understand that fresh faces on the forums can't create new threads, however you should try to find a more recent thread to post in. anything over 30 days is considered to contain out of date information and opinions. if you cannot find a more recent thread, contact one of the moderators via PM and let them know you'd like to start a new thread. we'll certainly help you out.
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