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doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
edited February 2014 in The Militia Barracks
Here are my stats at the moment without any pet bonus also I got no boons just got 60


2s9rqrm.jpg


What I had in mind is that I want to make a tanky GWF who can tank and kill people so I tired to increase my defense with decent HP and my killing ability would be criting. I went for con instead of dex to have little more survivlity and focused my ench on critical. I will soon switch to dex to see if the difference worth losing little survivlity.

What do you think of this build? What should I change to have better killing power in PVP and is it worth having high def as swordmaster destroyer
Killy2
SENT IV GWF - PVP
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  • helloz2helloz2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 205 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Hola there, from the image I see that you added STR for your initial roll.

    From what I know CON and DEX are vital for a PVP GWF, as well as Sentinel path since the feats are awesome in boosting defenses.

    I'm not sure about the Defense question though, not an expert with the math.
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  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    You have nice enchant lol 16k gs.

    But that build needs more HP. And more regen.

    I would not walk into PVP with less than 30k HP regardless of class.

    Basically your build is too PVE. Go to game find some GWF from the big PVP guilds, inspect them and just copy. That is the fastest way for you.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Few things.
    First your hp is really low for a pvp gwf, and your regen is very bad.
    First get two pieces of the titan set and two pieces of the valiant duelist.
    Put radiants into all your defense slots if you haven't already.

    This is going to up your defense, deflect, regen, lifesteal, and hp by quite a bit.

    Next up ditch the lantern and pick up the raven skull for pvp, this is more regen.

    Can't tell what enchants you're using but slap a vorpal in for deep gash fun, and a soulforged in the armor slot. Dex and con should be your focus and let str fall lower.
  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    how is it possible to have more hp and more GS overal? I already have full set of R10 (didnt get movement R10 yet will later)

    only thing missing is the glory artifact and making them legendary

    so how do I improve it more and I dont even know where or how to get these boons yet lol

    regarding plastic GWF comment idk but I was tanking premades just fine ( not so long since I was in weak random team and got slapped 5v1 mostly )

    regarding the enchants they are all R10, some for ap, critcal and power.. defense slot are defense excluding one for HP which I will change later

    Already have soulforged and perfect vorpal

    Edit: me going for STR race and focus does this mean im screwed? ****
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    how is it possible to have more hp and more GS overal? I already have full set of R10 (didnt get movement R10 yet will later)

    only thing missing is the glory artifact and making them legendary

    so how do I improve it more and I dont even know where or how to get these boons yet lol

    regarding plastic GWF comment idk but I was tanking premades just fine ( not so long since I was in weak random team and got slapped 5v1 mostly )

    You may lose gs with my suggestions as I don't think hp counts the same as other stats, might be wrong, but you will be more effective.

    You get the boons by heading to dread ring and sharandar and doing daily quests, it just takes time. Talk to Knox to get started.
  • helloz2helloz2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 205 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    The tips in post #5 are very useful.

    You might want to lower your Critical Strike since it seems to be very high, for other stats like Regeneration.
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  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    see the edit of my post please
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Just put your level ups into dex/con, no need to reroll or feel screwed. You might be a little lower than an absolute min/maxed toon but you'll do just fine.
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    http://pastebin.com/44JssPCz
    as the guy said defence slot only radiant,offence dark so 37,38 hp is so easy to get
    he uses 2 Greater ring of repulsion, Thickgristle's sturdy belt,for neck some blue rege rings with ap and crit i think or even better there is a neck with defence slot perfect if u have rank 10 radiant lol
    2piece valiant,2 piece titan
    and swich from str to dex keep con as it is.
    sentinel is a must has better dmg then destroyer and lives twice as long
    only problem is this build is so op you will be bored in no time its only for high end premades
  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    mxtime wrote: »
    http://pastebin.com/44JssPCz
    as the guy said defence slot only radiant,offence dark so 37,38 hp is so easy to get
    he uses 2 Greater ring of repulsion, Thickgristle's sturdy belt,for neck some blue rege rings with ap and crit i think
    2piece valiant,2 piece titan
    and swich from str to dex keep con as it is.
    sentinel is a must has better dmg then destroyer and lives twice as long

    I thought destroyer was supposed to be the highest dmg and I also see that most people are IV, so I guess IV is better than SM?

    and nice guide but where are the screenshots
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    I thought destroyer was supposed to be the highest dmg and I also see that most people are IV, so I guess IV is better than SM?

    and nice guide but where are the screenshots

    destroyer is for pve not pvp dont let the name fool u its realy bad for pvp. IV was a huge buff to gwf.no one plays sm but few pve gwf
    there was some contreversy lol so he removed the build fom nevervinter.but thats the one of the top 2,3 gwf in the game.
    u dont need screen shots just buy that stuff
  • helloz2helloz2 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 205 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    I thought destroyer was supposed to be the highest dmg

    Not in PVP though, since the Destroyer class feature is hard to sustain.
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  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    I thought destroyer was supposed to be the highest dmg and I also see that most people are IV, so I guess IV is better than SM?

    and nice guide but where are the screenshots

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?607541-The-Steamroller
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    I thought destroyer was supposed to be the highest dmg and I also see that most people are IV, so I guess IV is better than SM?

    and nice guide but where are the screenshots
    IV is definately better than SM. Sent vs destroyer is an odd question and destroyer can pull ahead in pve but with the right feats sent pulls ahead. Look at the leeroy jenkins thread here on the forums page 24 ish I think for mod 2 info.

    To sum it up though sent pulls ahead by picking up Student of the sword from instigator and Deep Gash from destroyer while also taking the marking feat, (I forget it's name off the top of my head) At this point your dps will be higher as long as you use Threatening Rush from IV regularly to keep enemies marked. This allows you to keep your dps up and have higher survival.
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    IV is definately better than SM. Sent vs destroyer is an odd question and destroyer can pull ahead in pve but with the right feats sent pulls ahead. Look at the leeroy jenkins thread here on the forums page 24 ish I think for mod 2 info.

    To sum it up though sent pulls ahead by picking up Student of the sword from instigator and Deep Gash from destroyer while also taking the marking feat, (I forget it's name off the top of my head) At this point your dps will be higher as long as you use Threatening Rush from IV regularly to keep enemies marked. This allows you to keep your dps up and have higher survival.

    yeah even in pve sent is more dmg now lol but im guessing he will not pve with rank 10 so much
  • sirindrasirindra Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Regen, Regen, Regen. More HP as well.

    Gear: Try a 2 set mix (Titan's, Scrapper, Valiant Duelist, Dread Legion, etc).
    Rings: Greater Rings of Health, Ring of Repulsion, Ancient Rings of Burning Light
    Belt: Thickgristle's Belt, Reinforced Frostpelt Girdle
    Neck: Bloodied Frostwolf Pelt, Berseker Amulet of Youth
    Shirt and Pants: Gambeson is better

    This is an average "Sentinel" PvP GWF set up with gear, of course there can be some variations. Currently, your GWF is very PvE oriented.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    People told you repeatedly in your other thread that AoW wasn't the best set for PvP, even though it was the most expensive. Your fault for going ahead and buying it anyway.
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  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Thanks alot guys

    it seems like I have alot of build rethinking to do , Im ganna be following your advice and change to IV sent
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Finally finished rebuilding and here are the stats and feats

    2zppkea.jpg

    16hkxmg.jpg

    regen still too low..hopefully i get skull soon


    edit:: just did my first domination as IV...just...OMG love it
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    doggy009 wrote: »
    Finally finished rebuilding and here are the stats and feats

    2zppkea.jpg

    16hkxmg.jpg

    regen still too low..hopefully i get skull soon


    edit:: just did my first domination as IV...just...OMG love it



    just take repulsion rings,or rings of health and Berserkers Amulet of Youth for neck thats 400 rege.since you are tanky u dont need recovery at all,and there is 250 rege boon so you willl have 650 rege more without losing anything
  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    mxtime wrote: »
    just take repulsion rings,or rings of health and Berserkers Amulet of Youth for neck thats 400 rege.since you are tanky u dont need recovery at all,and there is 250 rege boon so you willl have 650 rege more without losing anything

    found the rings but not the neck
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Sigh.

    It's not epic.
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  • mxtimemxtime Member Posts: 316 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    yeah neck is blue very cheap
  • eton3000eton3000 Banned Users Posts: 230 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Sigh.

    Another cancer in PvP.
  • trippysmurf1trippysmurf1 Member Posts: 188 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    eton3000 wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Another cancer in PvP.

    It's okay, he'll bash his head on the keyboard and still kill people.
  • myth8892myth8892 Member Posts: 48
    edited February 2014
    Arp is a little low for my taste
  • myth8892myth8892 Member Posts: 48
    edited February 2014
    To the above, noone forces you to do pvp
  • doggy009doggy009 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    They probably are tr with perm stealth yet crying about other classes
    Killy2
    SENT IV GWF - PVP
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