Am I The Only One Who ....

flayedawg · February 2014

.... really dislikes R.A. Salvatore, & wishes that "Driz'zt" would disappear entirely?

maatmons · February 2014

I'm actually only aware of Driz'zt form people complaining about him or making fun of him.

angrysprite · February 2014

maatmons wrote: »

I'm actually only aware of Driz'zt form people complaining about him or making fun of him.

Ditto.
I've been playing since closed beta 1 and I *still* have never seen a "Driz'zt" in-game. And when I do I'll applaud.

baronvonboom · February 2014

flayedawg wrote: »

.... really dislikes R.A. Salvatore, & wishes that "Driz'zt" would disappear entirely?

Couldnt agree more...

Only ever read a few of R.A's earlier Driz'zt novels and was never really a fan of him anyway.
Far too many of the 80/90's D&D characters were the original writers/designers persona's being placed into the game world, all Driz'zt ever reminds me of is those awful 80's posters with a scantily clad woman in leather hanging over a Harley with a Panther motif on it..

Same as Elminster they can both sling their hook..

charononus · February 2014

flayedawg wrote: »

.... really dislikes R.A. Salvatore, & wishes that "Driz'zt" would disappear entirely?

No, sadly I've started a habit of spawn camping teams in pvp when I see a drizzt on the other team.

angrysprite · February 2014

I have to say: I think this is part of the problem with some of the 'social' aspects of the game (and many MMOs). "Let's punish others for playing the way they want which is fun for them just because we're tired of it and don't like it."

Imagine if the tables were turned.

I've never read any of the D&D novels about Faerun (I'm a DragonLance reader and THAT'S my world). Do I get all pissy if I see a dozen Raistlins or Tasselhoff Burrfoots? Hell no. I see it as players paying homage to their favorite characters from the stories. I have no idea who this Driz'zt character is (other than he's a Drow and has a panther with him, and even that's real hazy for me).

Here's my opinion, since we're all throwing them out with no holds barred: Faerun sucks hind-teet, Krynn rules them all and Neverwinter sucks hind-teet because it's based on the wrong world. Hows that? I expect that sentiment doesn't bother you a bit (and it should't). So why would someone playing as a favorite character from a story?

Frankly, I think the OP and most of the comments in this thread are a real shame. As in "shame on you" for wanting to deny and outright punish other players for having their own fun. Ever heard of just 'tuning-out' whatever annoys you? You have real personal problems.

I should create this Driz'zt character and go stand around in PE Campfire, just to annoy you all. But then, I'd be lowering myself to that intellectual cesspool where you appear to be opining from. If this statement offends you, then in reiteration: you have a personal problem as it's not directed at any specific person; but rather at a particular mindset.

Fortunately: we all have the right to believe what we believe and lay practice to those goals. (At least until it starts to punnish other people who feel differently, then it become oppression.)

lewstelamon01 · February 2014

angrysprite wrote: »

(I'm a DragonLance reader and THAT'S my world)

Actually, I thought Krynn was the world of Dragonlance, not Faerun.

angrysprite · February 2014

lewstelamon01 wrote: »

Actually, I thought Krynn was the world of Dragonlance, not Faerun.

I said that, or was I not clear about that? LOL Faerun is just a funny-sounding word to me. Krynn is a whole world to me.

-shrugs-

charononus · February 2014

angrysprite wrote: »

So why would someone playing as a favorite character from a story?

Honestly most names that should be copyrighted on players have been driving me nuts lately. Drizzt is just top of the list as I hate him. Also I will never claim to be a good person.

undeadcrabb · February 2014

No you're not the only one, this forum has plenty of Dzztphobes, perhaps even more than drizztphiles(there, I created new terms, now you can call each other names!

) I am more in the between of two, I don't hate Drizzt with all my heart, but don't love him either. He is kinda too "good" for my liking, I like when characters are flawed, it gives them more personalities, Drizzt, considering were he had come from, is too perfect for me.

dandare · February 2014

undeadcrabb wrote: »

He is kinda too "good" for my liking, I like when characters are flawed, it gives them more personalities, Drizzt, considering were he had come from, is too perfect for me.

Kind of my feel as well. I never got hooked to books staring him since that 'feel' was annoying a bit for a main cast in my opinion. Yet I have at least one friend being big fan of Drizzt.

Personally: I cannot say I hate him. It's more like: "I would SOOO love to see him getting chopped by horde of hobgoblins under my command again" ~kind of feel. Since he's such mr. Perfect it just triggers my HAMSTER button on him. Yet all who know basics of social psychology would say that it means I actually like him (at least to point of carrying about bullying him

).

Faerun is a helluva big world by now and surely have many epic as well as many weak fragments, depending on subjective likes. For my case I really like Elminster. Maybe since he's first archetype of 'old mage with certain flaws' character I encountered... and I liked his rouge elements which were from time to time refreshing.

I could say many things good and bad about other FR related stuff. Probably write a book if time was given, but.. meh. It's not topic here and my vendetta towards Abdel Adrian (for he is MY prey

) can wait.

I admit that hating or loving Drizzy is not anything very important, but people can freely tell about their likes and dislikes as it is in fact part of intellectual interactions we can have as human beings. As long as someone is honest and not abusive I don't care even if they hate Aerie the Avariel. I still like her.. like some weird kind of little sister in need of protection even past the point of learning Archmage level arcane arts when she practically could defend herself against half of Amn's army.. cause she still was shy and cute like a librarian girl with androphobia (actually she had pretty severe androphobia due to vivid reasons). I would still like her even if most of the world would hate her.

" De gustibus non est disputandum*" - so we can surely write out what 'we think' but please do not measure others or try them to bend to your opinion on such subjective matter.

Oh, my... sorry for such long post.

Sincerely yours - Angry Neko Elf

(*literally, "There is no disputing of tastes")

angrysprite · February 2014

I don't think the word "copyright" means what you think it means (@charononus). Copyright is supposed to protect the consumer from fake goods. I doubt anyone in-game seeing a "Driz'zt" (or any other book character) would possibly confuse that with the original author-created character.

A player using a "copyrighted" character name in an MMO virtual world falls under the Fair Use section of the law. ~cough~

#JustSayin'

I stand by both my comments made previously (well, three, actually).

charononus · February 2014

angrysprite wrote: »

I don't think the word "copyright" means what you think it means (@charononus). Copyright is supposed to protect the consumer from fake goods. I doubt anyone in-game seeing a "Driz'zt" (or any other book character) would possibly confuse that with the original author-created character.

A player using a "copyrighted" character name in an MMO virtual world falls under the Fair Use section of the law. ~cough~

#JustSayin'

I stand by both my comments made previously (well, three, actually).

Legal arguments aside, it annoys me, makes me want to kill them over and over again.

flayedawg · February 2014

angrysprite wrote: »

"Let's punish others for playing the way they want which is fun for them just because we're tired of it and don't like it."

Um ... just so everyone knows ... this thread is not about players or their characters. At all.

This thread is about my dislike of the writer, R.A. Salvatore, & one of his particular characters. Only that. Nothing more. Let's not read what isn't into it.

varetmarkush · February 2014

I actually like Salvatore's books.. i can't see why people keep complaining about them.. Drizzt is not so bad, ok i mostly like the bad guys and my fav chars of the Faerun lore are Szass Tam, Cyric and Artemis Entreri, but Drizzt is the only 'good' guy that i actually like (well the emo bard of the haunted lands trilogy is interesting too...)

So...my question is.. why do you hate Drizzt enought to complaint about it?
However i will not ask the same Salvatore's books, as it is plain stupid to argue about something like that.. it's like me complaining about apples because i don't like them..it doesn't even make sense..

avatarstryfe · February 2014

flayedawg wrote: »

.... really dislikes R.A. Salvatore, & wishes that "Driz'zt" would disappear entirely?

It got really spread out there towards the end, as if they were reaching for a tolkienesque sort of confusion. Drizzt is awesome, ill grant them that, I worshipped his first three books as a teenager. But yea it is more than overdone, and maybe also sad, to see 3000 different butchered spellings of the name drizzt do'urden in Neverwinter... like if you cant be drizzt do'urden with correct spelling you simply shouldn't... you all just look like HAMSTER with your incorrect spelling... like you are all Drizzt Do'Urden rewrites by kindergarden authors. There is a lot more name butchering than just Drizzt, but hey, I go to the supermarket to get some food, and there are just as many HAMSTER there... *shrug*

hobokenboy · February 2014

The really odd thing is that Mr. Salvatore did not intend for Drizzt to become the popular one. In the first book, he tried to establish Wulfgar as the main protagonist, iirc. It was the PEOPLE READING THE BOOKS that fawned after the dark elf. Salvatore is just cashing in on the public's tastes.

dandare · February 2014

varetmarkush wrote: »

ok i mostly like the bad guys and my fav chars of the Faerun lore are Szass Tam, Cyric and Artemis Entreri

How about Ion Irenicus?

Sorry, I had to ask XD

Putting aside his legend of being 'most not elf-like elf ever', I did really liked how HAMSTER he was. The fact that average arcane masters were like an ants to him and even a whole bunch of master level mages had hard time to merely drive him away (not defeat) was building a nice overall tension during the play over BGII. AND: the fact that even driven to hell after death and stripped of magic abilities he did not give a second thought but fought a bunch of demons bare-handed.

Now that you mention it: the Faerun really had more 'intriguing' evil characters than the good ones. All have a certain background story, aim and weird own ideology they follow: retty much everything we want evil character to have. Not mention they intrigues which main hero mostly takes ages to even comprehend! (mostly Cyric is best here as he's like Faerun's definition of trolling)

Sorry for long post ^^;

Truly yours - Angry Neko Elf

varetmarkush · February 2014

From the books i've read and the games i've played, i mostly like those 3 for their ideology.
Szass Tam, well he is the ultimate HAMSTER, as he tricked Mask (if i'm not mistaken) himself into making him immortal so that he can use the HAMSTER book to tear aparth the fabric of existence and remake it anew..
Cyric.. well he IS indeed the ultimate troll, and i like him for he's mad..
And Artemis Entreri is the most drowlike non-drow i've come across.

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