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Dread Ring - No point after Campaign Completion

kolbe11kolbe11 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2014 in PvE Discussion
I really liked Dread Ring, but it has too short of a gamelife for most players and offers no real useful "end campaign" rewards. Assuming one has all 5 boons and the Adamantine Gauntlet, there's little need to go to the Dread Ring EXCEPT to do the daily dungeon and get ones Gauntlet.

Aside from the Daily Dungeon, we get 2 options:

Recover Thayan Gear - Purple Ring/Neck/Belt
Trade Thayan Intelligence - Convert Scrips to Books

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(Note "Vanguard Scrip" is how it is spelled in the pop-up window and appeared to be a typo, but is not. Thank you becky for noticing that!)

Both of ^these options are worthless to the avid to moderate player.

See, what Dread Ring lacks is a "sink" for all those scrips, scrolls and books. Unlike Sharandar where you have a "spark sink" to warrant continuing those dailies for "Lesser Fey Enchantments", Potions of Heroism and others, Dread Ring has nothing.

It would be nice if they offered some kind of "sink" for those daily scroll rewards.

Below are some suggestions for the Dread Ring Store:
-Potions
-Enchantments (Like Lesser Fey)
-Runestones
-Armor or Weapon Shards
-Rank Point items
-Temporary Mount (24hr Hound to try for example)
-SOMETHING to use these daily rewards on!
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I agree that there's a need for something to spend the currencies on for anyone so inclined as to keep farming them. Not only is there a lack of a truly worthwhile repeatable campaign task, but there aren't any consumables on which to spend excess scrip, unlike the crescents from Sharandar. (I do fully approve though of the reduced need to grind scrips for weeks or months in order to unlock the whole campaign.)

    Scrip is the right word. Anyone who is "correcting" it to script is incorrect.
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  • kolbe11kolbe11 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Scrip is the right word. Anyone who is "correcting" it to script is incorrect.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrip

    The whole Dread Campaign revolves around knowledge and "intelligence" that I did not even bother to read the tooltip and just assumed it was a typo. Derp, it's a monetary note! My bad.
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  • gvstonedgvstoned Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm sure not everyone who has all boons & the adamantine gauntlet has the artifact, so there's still that you need to go back for.
  • hiddenfatehiddenfate Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yea I agree, but even with sharandar I'm not sure the grind is really "worth it". I'd like there to be multiple "sinks" to drop your items in so you have some variety to choose from as well as more than one method to get those items (ie. with dread ring you can get scrips from the boring daily grinds or you can skirmish the heck out of an AD event and end up with enough for a week).
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    dread ring is definitely shorter than sharandar but there were a lot of things that came out with module 2 including a new class, new paragon paths, artifacts and the refinement system. however i do agree, it would be nice to have more options once you're finished with the campaign. i'm essentially using the dread ring area to level up companions (with sharandar!)
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I would like the option to exchange scrips for RP stones.
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  • calvin1tagcalvin1tag Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I just posted this same thread more or less earlier today - agree 100%. We need something to make this worthwhile please!
  • two30two30 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,168 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The absence of a good repeatable task is particularly odd given that they could have attached an Astral Diamond and gold sink to such a task. It seems like a squandered opportunity.
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  • nurmoodnurmood Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I really cant believe that they offer a box full of useless rings neck items... As far as i understood it those rings and stuff are part of the T1 set.

    Would make more sence to put the T2 versions of those items in the box that you cant get in VT.
  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yes, the campaign needs more goodies to buy with the currencies you get from running Dread Ring stuff. Hell, a lot of vendors could use more options like the various seal vendors.
    nurmood wrote: »
    I really cant believe that they offer a box full of useless rings neck items... As far as i understood it those rings and stuff are part of the T1 set.

    Would make more sence to put the T2 versions of those items in the box that you cant get in VT.

    They are the T2 ones that you can't get in VT.
  • deadlys7deadlys7 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I spent some time today trying to figure out what I could do with my extra campaign rewards, because I thought I must be missing something. This post confirms that I am not missing something, it is the campaign that is missing something.

    This is unfortunate because not only does it feel like our time gathering these rewards has been wasted, but the resources used to design these quests, areas, and rewards are being underutilized. Giving us something to do with these rewards completes this area, and gives us more satisfying gameplay out of an area that has already been carefully constructed.

    I think potions, refine points, and enchants are wonderful ideas for Dread Ring reward sinks. Maybe a new BoP Normal (non-Weapon/Armor) enchant? + or +% to Ability Score effectiveness?

    tl;dr I 100% agree!
  • cenomxcenomx Member Posts: 41
    edited January 2014
    One thing they could add imo, is the ability to get more "knowledge", and be abble to hold more gauntlets than one per day. It would adress the anger on people who didnt get the Artifact yet. And would give some use to stuff from dailies.
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  • icyclassicyclass Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kolbe11 wrote: »
    Trade Thayan Intelligence - Convert Scrips to Books

    Other way around; it converts books to scrip.
    You're getting the books anyway from the daily. I guess turn it into a little bit of scrip and buy seals with the scrip (very slowly) so you can buy rings with the seals and salvage them?
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The mini-dungoens are still useful to get refinement stuff, if you forged the gauntlets. Purple gauntlet grants you nice stuff and gives you a chance to get an artifact from the ghost chest (don't remember the name).
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I agree, after boons are complete it's kinda useless compared to Fey (Lesser enchants/pots). The Eye artifact is ultra RNG that I gave up on after weeks of using adamantine gauntlets for what? 2 peridots? lol.

    We need something useful, just as potions&lesser enchants. At least this useful. We should go forward, better rewards, not worse.
  • nathyielnathyiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    On both campagne, I think it lack some reward at the end.

    NW offer to interesting option here : Mount and Pet as Artefact is already in place.
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, I'll keep doing the daily mini dungeon for these reasons:

    1) Chance for Artifact
    2) Greater Mark is great RP.
    3) Chance for others purples to salvage for RAD.
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  • adinosiiadinosii Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,294 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, after getting all the boons in Sharandar, it is most certainly worthwhile to go there, pick up the daily and weekly spark tasks, and accumulate the Lesser Fey Blessing enchants - either to sell them or to use. It may also be worthwhile to run Celadine's tower, just for the chance of getting the Blink Dog (I have personally only gotten two so far, so the chance is probably pretty low, but it's there.)

    As fro Dread ring - well, sure, after getting the boons, it makes sense to do the daily instances (Phantasmal Fortress etc), if only to get the greater marks, as they are pretty useful for leveling up artifacts, but beyond that? Meh...... not worth it.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I have all the dread ring campaign boons on my two main chars, and all i'm doing is the daily dungeon, for the greater mark and chance for artifact in the arcane coffer (or for two peridots, most of the times). And the pile of thayan scripts and books is growing every day...

    Need consumables please. :)
  • docsc00terdocsc00ter Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Something that lets us further refine our Artifacts, Enchantments, etc. at a somewhat faster rate would be great. I'm more than happy to play through my Sharandar & Dread Ring Dailies if they advance my equipment tailored to my goals.
  • kolbe11kolbe11 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    After making this thread I did my daily Dread Forge on a toon and timed it.

    35 sec to make a 5 person party
    2 min waiting for party to show up
    5.25 min running DF
    2 min to get back to entrance
    ==
    ~10 min for the daily DD.

    Considering the amount of effort put into making Mod2, I can imagine the devs would want us to spend more than 10 minutes in Dread Ring a day.

    At least allow us to spend Scrips on the same items that are in Sharandar. Convert Scrips to Gold Crescents at least.
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  • maerwinmaerwin Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    One would think there would be at least some use for scripts and scrolls when they put tokens for them in lockboxes. (no, spending 10k AD to get 8k unrefined is not a use). You know, to... add value to the item from their cash shop? I'm sitting on 2k scripts and can't even discard that junk. Something like Sharandar potions would be perfect.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I would just like to observe that it takes approximately 10 minutes to run a daily lair solo as well, not counting travel time to and from camp (which is fairly minimal with a fast mount and knowing exactly where to zigzag in order to fight nothing).

    I can run 3x Phantasmal Fortress or Death Forge during the half hour window of the Professions event, provided I get set up to switch characters at the door on each completion. Dread Spire feels like it takes a bit longer because there's more long halls and stairs, and I do find the "ambush" at the end slows me down.
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I would just like to observe that it takes approximately 10 minutes to run a daily lair solo as well, not counting travel time to and from camp (which is fairly minimal with a fast mount and knowing exactly where to zigzag in order to fight nothing).

    I can run 3x Phantasmal Fortress or Death Forge during the half hour window of the Professions event, provided I get set up to switch characters at the door on each completion. Dread Spire feels like it takes a bit longer because there's more long halls and stairs, and I do find the "ambush" at the end slows me down.

    I run past the ambush. Burn the book then a quick duck into the left side bookcases and off to the Knight Commander's Room.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Useful tip. Thanks.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Like I implied earlier, I think it's a very good thing that the campaign progression isn't severely hindered by putting in a fairly minimal amount of time daily.

    But the campaign lacks a repeatable task that provides an incentive to keep adventuring there... without feeling like a mandatory grind. (Or even a good sink for the currency you can't help picking up if you're still farming lairs for an Eye of Lathander.)

    That's actually something that Sharandar has right, in that people who want to can keep making Fey Blessings to their heart's content, and people who don't ever want to have their limbs withered again can leave without feeling like they're missing out.
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