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elvalianon
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There are many enchantments in Neverwinter and although some might fit our style many others do great stuff but can look horrible. It would be really nice if the player was able to turn of the visuals of a enchantment, just like the cap/hat and necklace.
The main reason I find this important is that when people buy fashion (even with real money) the piece can lose it's charm by a bad looking enchantment. This is not why I see people buying fashion. The very definition of it is to make your character pleasant to look at.
I have started a thread about this before and many people have agreed. Also seen more post about this subject with many support. Still I have seen no replies or changes.
Here is a just a preview of how a enchantment can ruin fashion items
The main reason I find this important is that when people buy fashion (even with real money) the piece can lose it's charm by a bad looking enchantment. This is not why I see people buying fashion. The very definition of it is to make your character pleasant to look at.
I have started a thread about this before and many people have agreed. Also seen more post about this subject with many support. Still I have seen no replies or changes.
Here is a just a preview of how a enchantment can ruin fashion items
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Also I kind of like the effect in your ss, gives it a corrupted by evil power look.
That said I wouldn't mind if the effect was turned off for you and you alone, as long as other players still see your enchantments.
Some have lesser enchantments which you can barely see, or the battle is quite hectic and you don't even have time to see what they are wearing. Besides you cannot inspect their gear too, so why should you be able to see their enchantments?
However they could make it so that you must show enchantments in pvp, but in pve you can chose for yourself to show it or not.
I do not like the look, I do not intend to look evil and this really messed up my fashion and die I spent about 800k on.
I concur. As for the argument of others seeing what enchantments I have: use the inspect function. YOUR need or want has no business overriding MY choices of appearance.
Attention Cryptic: I know you have a lot of other, higher-priority bugs to fix and the list grows very long, but this one is (at least to me and, I'm sure many others) is pretty high on my "really, really annoying bugs" list.
As for PvP, imho, to see others' armor enchantments is not a good reason, and is similar to asking to see others' feats, powers, etc. No one should be made obligate to let others' know his/her armor enchantment.
And for anyone who want to use the PvP defense I'll just quote myself from another thread like this.
- In PvE, it doesn't matter what you look like. Allow players to customize, hide, replace and alter any part of their gear. Allow them to turn off their enchantments, or choose a lower level. It's your character, made as you see fit.
- In PvP, it *MAY* matter. I'm a long-time EvE player, so intel gained from viewing your opponents is critical, down to what weaponry they are using. That said, NWO isn't that complex. But to meet in the middle, simply disable ALL alterations during a pvp match, including any weapon and armor transmutations, as well as fashion gear. Maps over, go back to the look you want.
In my mind, PvP needs to be all or nothing. Forcing enchantment visuals while allowing for fashion gear or transmutations is really half-assed.
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But as I said, there is no real PvP advantage. I mean seriously, if you can survive a match not knowing which gear I have on do to me wearing fashions or survive a match not knowing if I have R4s or R10s slotted, can you really say that not knowing from a distance which weapon/armor enchants I have would really make the difference in the outcome of a match?
And not to mention, isn't not knowing what you're going to face part of the fun of PvPing? There are so many things you already don't know when the match starts. Is that TR a permastealth , high regen or glass cannon build? Is that GWF a godly sent, destroyer or IV build? And the same goes for pretty much every class. Is that a hardcore or casual PvPer? Do they have a common or epic mount? Is the other team a premade or a PUG?
Im sorry but try as you might no one will ever convince me that not knowing what weapon/armor enchants someone has will ever be game breaking.
Obviously enchantments would have to appear in PvP but for PvE cosmetics should come first in my opinion.
Sominator did reply to one of these types of threads and said he wasn't sure if it was possible but the devs would look into it.
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This is exactly why I never wear my beautifully dyed elven fashion!
SF is beyond ugly, other enchantments are not much better.
How is it an advantage in pvp if everyone can hide the enchantments?
Im sorry but could you explain how or why this is obvious? With what I mentioned above in terms of what can be hidden in PvP, please explain how or why enchantment would have to appear in PvP.
Another option that can be done is to give each armor enchantments a unique symbol to be placed next to everyone's name instead of a visual we now have. For those of you PvPeeps will know right away what they are wearing, even if they are in a wedding dress.
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For each enchantment, one would use different tactics against the wearer. If ya can't see what they are wearing than ya wouldn't know what to do:
Barkshield - toss 3 marshmallows at them then hit'm with your devastating moves.....
Soulforge - You can kill'm but expect them to resurrect and 1 hit ya to oblivion.....:eek:
and so forth.....
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If you ask me, it's another reason to HIDE enchants. Would make pvp more fun
I have characters I want the effects to show on persistently.
I have characters which I like the lesser or normal level FX better than the higher level.
I have characters I don't want the effects to show on at all.
It really does need to be an option sort of like companion skins lest you'd be appeasing one group and spiting another.
Pretty much what valwryn said.
The visuals clue you in how to react to different situations as well as add in an additional layer of strategy.
It'd be really nice if I didn't have to do that.
OK this is the most common given reason but IMHO not really a good enough reason to force the visuals on the wearers. Also you pretty much ignored all the other stuff that can be hidden that doesn't seem to affect how players deal with others during PvP. Im going to go out on a limb and say that if you know what armor they're wearing your tactics would change also since obviously you wont need the same tactic that you use on someone wearing T2 gear as your would with someone wearing blue gear. Same goes for normal enchants, Im sure you tactics would change depending if the other guy has r4s or r10s.
So again I ask, can you really say that not being able to tell what weapon/armor enchants someone has would really be that big of a game changer? Not to mention, as I and others have said, I have no problem with the enchants being visible once they proc in combat so the only thing that would really change is a few seconds of fighting before you find out what they have.
And for high end, PM vs PM pvp you might as well just assume everyone's got a soulforged, because pretty much everyone does.
If PVP is why they are keeping the Enchantment Visuals, they could enable visuals just like they disable pets in PVP.