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chantola21
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I don't get it. Why did they do that?
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Folks were getting End Game Dungeon Gear without having to run any End Game. In fact, it was, at one point, assumed that most people would just buy their first full sets off of the A.H. as soon as they hit 60. Essentially, you had to have ALREADY PURCHASED the best End Game gear from a particular Dungeon in order to be accepted into a group to run that Dungeon for the first time.
It was a great time for those of us who hated Dungeons, and a terrible time for anyone wanting to start doing them for fun.
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Seems to me like the only people who would lose in the scenario where t2 gear is bind on equip are farmers and narcisists who need to feel more elite than those who can't do the dungeons.
So, why was it bad for fun?
Which certainly can be counted as problematic but this is where the Sharandar and Dread Ring Campaigns come into effect.
The cold hard truth is that if the best gear is easy to purchase for people who don't do dungeons then it's way too easy for people who do plan on doing dungeons. And during the time before DD Chest rewards were made BoP people would reach level 60, say 'Okay, what now...?' and flood the market with more top items, make a new character or quit the game.
The gear was too easy to get so the end game progression which was supposed to be a fun and moderately challenging gear grind didn't exist. Now you have to earn your gear by doing the dungeons, by doing the campaign tasks or buying it with the AD you accumulate.
And that's better for the game despite any issues it causes for some of the people who don't care for the end game content.
Basically making them bop now adds grind. oh yay! I like starting out with good gear, then I can play the content I want with the gear I like. Motivation should be for fun content , NOT for gear grinding. That's the lazy way to force people to play.
How exactly does add grind? All you did was to run a dungeon, defeat the final boss and get rewarded for your effort (standard MMO model)
And now that you already bought your full epic set from the AH, what do you do with it? Pretty much the same thing but now you call it "fun".
I find most of the blue gear that drops from leveling has better stats (minus the set bonus) than a lot of the purple gear.
There is a forum post (name?) who has posted a AD earning guide. It explains in detail how to earn AD with no out of pocket monies.
Erdan Loreweaver 60 CW 11.3 GS
Mika Hawklight 60 DC 11.5 GS
Rukia Stealthfoot 60 TR 11.5 GS
Ka D'Argo 60 HR 13.7 GS
Ivan Ironfist 60 GWF 11.6 GS
There you go.
Oddly enough, the belts and jewelry from DDs are not BoP. If you get yourself a nice necklace or ring, they can sell for a good amount of AD.
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After all, you can't have content that would be too hard for 99.99% of the population they will come here to moan and neither could you have everything cheap because why buy Zen then?
The only crafted items that are BoP are the reinforced T2 bracers and the Fomorian and Fallen Dragon weapons. So if you want this gear, you do need to level the crafting to make them for yourself. (It is possible that other high end crafting to be introduced in the future will follow the same pattern.)
Any other crafted gear can be traded.
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Also account wide bank slots.
That is all.
You can get blue items if you don't get your choice of T1 set gear.
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Well the flip side of that is you have tons of folks with all the gear from the past and the expectation that you are fully geared before running any of the T2 dungeons.
Lets also be real, you will not get very far trying to do the T2 dungeons in T1 gear.
So it's kind of a catch 22.
I'll grant you it made ToS a huuuge pain though. :rolleyes:
What elitist pugs do and what is the reality of what is possible are two very different concepts.
You are perfectly capable of doing T2 Dungeons with or without T1 gear so long as you have the gearscore and a decent build.
Doesn't mean the elitist players think so...
But if you avoid the elitists then you'll find a lot is possible that they don't want to believe.
Note ToS doesn't count because that's nasty even with a fully geared team. Any other T2 is capable of being done at minimum GS.
That may be true, but it's kind of hard to do them if you get vote kicked out (or half the group leaves) of the majority of groups due to not having a higher gear score.