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burgleden1
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I've looked over Voltomey's pvp build and it seems like it would work for pve too. Is there a viable pve combat build? I've only seen archery and nature on the forums. Thanks.
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Personal opinion I don't think combat will work well in pve. Too much in pve is a dps race. Combat gets some nice defensive bonuses but for pve the group will be better off with a gwf or gf for tanking, or another hr, tr, cw, or gwf for dps. Combat would need a major buff for pve from what I've seen.
Combate is fine for pve just not dungeons the combat build i have works well for all solo pve content.
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Split debuffs all the mobs (no rule of 5), Thorn ward in the middle of the pack and then go crazy with Fox/Forest Ghost. When Ghost is on CD spam Clear the Ground.
You won't out damage equal geared cw's, tr's, gwfs, archery hr's.
Also, something works when it does its job. If you want to appear on top scoreboards then yeah, go get HV and rank 10s. Personally I feel that something works when I get a smooth run and I can help the group.
E-peen boost is another issue.
Edit: I am not saying that Combat HRs will outdamage everything, but the do a proper job and they don't need babysitting. Plus they can change to single target focus really easy.
Quote for Truth i have run combat its just to much work and even with all that work your barly out dpsing a good cleric with on par gear. This is why i label combat spec a pvp only spec just not enough dmg to be competitive on a PvE dungion lvl. You will not do more single target dmg then a TR and you will not be giving your party any kinda help and you will only be a hindrance more then you will good dps rolling combat spec for dungeons.
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Something doesn't work if it doesn't produce 2 m damage than the party's CW?
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So, since Combat is sooooo much better than Archery in PvP, and while both in PvE are not first choices for parties...why bother?
Archers will still produce more dps than combat rangers In PvE Dungeons and PvP wise Archers can be extremely proficient if played right Because Both trees are on par with each over PvP wise all you have to do to get ver master of archerys nerf is slot crit to 40% and correcting aim will take over from there.
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Sorry didn't fully understand, but from what I got, no...the two trees are not on-par in PvP. Anyway, that's not the point of the thread, I guess we all got our answers.
Sigh my bad English fails me again i said both archery and combat are on par PvP wise just not PvE wise any good archery can beat a combat ranger just the same as any good combat ranger can kill a archer but atm most melee rangers i see in PvP latch on to that SsA bug. But for PvE if you plan on doing high end dungeon content stay away from the combat tree.
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Not disputing your combat spec experience, but sugesting that Archery spec cannot compete in dps is entirely wrong. CWs just have the advantage now becuase they are mostly fully geared or at least better geared. We still have to work out the best combinations for HRs in comparison to the core elements of the other classes being well known.
Obsidian Oath - Warlock
A whole lot of other Obsidian toons as well.
Personally, I like going with Combat HR with a Plaguefire and getting OK-ish damage and debuffs for my group. Plus I NEVER CHECK scoreboards. Good runs are what most people search for.
And the run would have been better with anything but a combat specced ranger.
Archery HR = better
Nature HR = better (slightly better dps and buffs)
TR = better
GWF = better
CW = better
DC = better (less dps but the support makes up for it)
GF = better (group takes less damage and can concentrate on dps)
What does the combat ranger do?
Man, really it's not like that. I never felt I was dead weight on the small number of T2 dungeons I've been into. Obviously I am not too experienced with T2 runs, since I have run less than 20 with my HR, but I could pull my weight on DPS, I could kite big groups of mobs if I was asked to and I could switch to whatever roll without needing to hold the party back.
Never got first in DPS among equal geared CWs and TRs if that's what you are asking, but I was always on comparable numbers.
So, from my limited experience I would have to disagree that Combat HRs need to be carried by 4 other players. The statement that they hit like a wet noodle shows that you don't have seen a proper execution of the Forest Ghost/Stormstep interaction in a group of mobs.
Yes, it is working beautifully for me.
Open with an aimed shot at either an a) instant kill or b) tougher enemy to soften up. Follow with a hindering shot to slow the charge for those types of enemies and/or a disrupting shot for casters. Use split shot until they close, then pop Fox (ranged). Switch to melee, hit the toughest thing with aimed strike for the bleed, use fox's (melee) and then just go to town with whatever rotation works for you.
And should count only once as its one daily activation for ssa. It's no different than betas bugged set bonuses, this is just a smaller scale.
Bug also?
Sure a fully geared (Full Rank 10's & Perfect Vorp) can out DPS pugs but when they go up vs. an equally geared CW. The CW's do about x2 the damage by end of run.
HR's had good damage before the massive nerf on the PTR between 30 to 60% on each encounter/at-will. Also melee needs a 50% damage increase on at-wills to even be viable in PvE. Mainly due to all of the mobs being tossed around and maintaining DPS, otherwise split shot.
Plus with the nerf to the highest off-hand (melee) by about 100 weapon damage the class took another massive hit to DPS.
On the PTR prior to the nerf the Hunter was hitting really nice #'s comparable to the CW. But after the nerf the damage dropped to that of a TR.
The way the game is shaped right now, there is no competition for top damage. It's either CWs or credit card GWFs. Of course, don't expect a buff in at wills for the Combat, especially since most of the whinners in the forums cry about OPness of the ranger.