I'm still here from time to time. I've been plagued with computer problems over the last few months, including two complete shutdowns that required sending my stationary PC across the country for repairs. The last time required swapping out the motherboard, graphics card and water cooler because of a leak in the latter. Figures.
I'm currently busy with other games and the upcoming PS4 release (this is in Europe), but once things calm down I will finish the quest I'm working on. It's so close to completion that I can taste it.
I'm still here from time to time. I've been plagued with computer problems over the last few months, including two complete shutdowns that required sending my stationary PC across the country for repairs. The last time required swapping out the motherboard, graphics card and water cooler because of a leak in the latter. Figures.
I'm currently busy with other games and the upcoming PS4 release (this is in Europe), but once things calm down I will finish the quest I'm working on. It's so close to completion that I can taste it.
THERE you are. I see only a snippet here and there from you.
elewyndylMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
Well I have not been active in Foundry creating in any way. However as poster in these forums I am a long time forum member. I am also happy that Cryptic and Perfect World listened to my posts(and I think many other people agree).
Here are some basic wishes that has become true of this game that are all my wishes:
1. Succubus monster included. I think I posted 10+ posts about that and this video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBorAzrfU18
2. Enough hardcore and not a casual carebear game like Guild Wars 2. Yes it is ENOUGH hardcore for a free player. I mean prices for Rank 9 and Rank 10 enchantments are very expensive.
3. Ranger as next class to be released and YES Ranger is going to be next class!
If you are really interested in the tool and not the game, perhaps you should be looking somewhere else...
Such as?
I love the foundry but spend next to no time playing the game. In fact the only time I do spend playing is trading reviews. A process that is a must rather than enjoyable. That is not to say I don't enjoy other peoples quests, but they can be very hit and miss. I have found myself overlooking quests I would choose in favour of quests that people will trade reviews.
Everything good about this game is made bad by Cryptic. Such as the great combat system for PVP but the dull 5v5 domination being the only map. Or the fantastic tool that is the foundry backed by the worse possible system for promoting ones work.
If you can tell me another game that has a tool such as the foundry that is as simple to use but as rewarding in the final outcome then be sure to tell me, as I will be the first to jump ship.
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xhritMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Download mingw, blender, and gimp; with these three things you can literally make anything you imagine. Of course there is no game, just tools, so you have to make everything yourself.
Everything good about this game is made bad by Cryptic. Such as the great combat system for PVP but the dull 5v5 domination being the only map. Or the fantastic tool that is the foundry backed by the worse possible system for promoting ones work.
Everything good about the game was made by Cryptic. Everything bad about the game can be made good by Cryptic, in time.
If you can tell me another game that has a tool such as the foundry that is as simple to use but as rewarding in the final outcome then be sure to tell me, as I will be the first to jump ship.
That was sorta my point. Neverwinter Nights 2 had a better toolset. Cryengine 3 has a better toolset. Blender Game Engine has a better toolset. There are lots of better toolsets, but none are attached to better games. If you want one, you are going to have to make it yourself.
Or the fantastic tool that is the foundry backed by the worse possible system for promoting ones work.
Just be grateful you have a tool to use at all?
Seriously, go make your own game, code everything from scratch, make all your own art. then realize in the real world, there are 0 tools given to you to promote your work. And if you don't promote your work, then across the entire internet there will be 0 cares given about it. The story in my free open source game is way better then Tears of Selune, but my Neverwinter quests have been played a lot more.
Promoting your works IRL requires time and effort, or RMT - which incidentally also works for your neverwinter quest.
Seriously, go make your own game, code everything from scratch, make all your own art. then realize in the real world, there are 0 tools given to you to promote your work. And if you don't promote your work, then across the entire internet there will be 0 cares given about it. The story in my free open source game is way better then Tears of Selune, but my Neverwinter quests have been played a lot more.
I have no interest in making a game or any time in which to do so and I am grateful I have the tool, which is why even with the frustrations I continue making quests.
but I'm not going to close my eyes and cover my ears and pretend that everything in this game is great because they do one thing better than everyone else. If people don't speak, things don't change. The very fact that I would bother coming to the forum and voicing my opinion speaks volumes about my opinion of the game.
If Neverwinter is going to last the devs need to listen to what people want. Which is:
When it comes to the foundry (although probably a small amount of players) this is a better search system and more reason for people to play the quests.
When it comes to PVP it's better maps, or just more maps.
When it comes to PVE, I couldn't possibly say. I have no opinion about that but there are some great games due in 2014/2015 so if Neverwinter want to compete then they need to improve in all area's.
I have been playing mmo's for a long time and tried very hard to bring my friends to Neverwinter, not one of them have continued more than a month or so. They don't share my enthusiasm for the foundry and the game offers very little else. You can disagree all you want but there you go.
If you are really interested in the tool and not the game, perhaps you should be looking somewhere else...
If you are just getting into modeling however, Wins3d is ni my opinion the best tool out there for beginners. You will spend 300% less time learning the interface as everything just makes sense. Want to select edges, press E, want to select vertexes? Press...you guess it V. All mesh the major mesh tools are accessed via right click context menu. Want to extrude, click the edge or face, right click and select extrude, and then select the axis or just select normal.
Blender, while powerful, is like learning to play the piano, as you have to memorize dozens of awkward key strokes to do simple tasks, many of which feel arbitrary and make no sense. Almost like the developers though, well, we need to have users do this easily...but we ran out of keys, lets make it some funky shift-alt-u, even though the letter U is not even in the operation.
Didnt mean to go on a tangent, I do like the power and features of blender, just saying beginners learning should start in wings3d, learn the the basic modifiers and mesh editing terms.
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xhritMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I have no interest in making a game or any time in which to do so and I am grateful I have the tool, which is why even with the frustrations I continue making quests.
but I'm not going to close my eyes and cover my ears and pretend that everything in this game is great because they do one thing better than everyone else. If people don't speak, things don't change. The very fact that I would bother coming to the forum and voicing my opinion speaks volumes about my opinion of the game.
As someone who has made their own game, I can attest to the fact that user feedback is one of the most important things in the development process. The most important thing however, is time to iterate on said feedback. There has been exactly one development cycle since general release, when module 2 came out. In that time, Cryptic managed to edit the search page to include tags, so they are aware of the issue. Hopefully module 2 will refine the concept.
I have been playing mmo's for a long time and tried very hard to bring my friends to Neverwinter, not one of them have continued more than a month or so.
Your friends actually played for a whole month? Mine lasted about a week. There is only about a month's worth of content in Neverwinter, aside from the Foundry. And the foundry is not 'endgame' content. You can level cap a character, and fully gear it in a month - to most people that is winning the game.
They don't share my enthusiasm for the foundry and the game offers very little else. You can disagree all you want but there you go.
I do not entirely disagree. There is a 99.9% chance I will be playing ESO the day it is released; Gauntlegrym just doesn't even come close to a day's long castle siege between 3 different factions. ESO will have brutal open world pvp, but ESO has no UGC. So I will play it while the PVP is hot, but there is one itch that it will never scratch. I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP because of all the xbox carebears who cry that they can't visit their favorite town from oblivion without getting ganked by vampire twinks.
If you are just getting into modeling however, Wins3d is ni my opinion the best tool out there for beginners. You will spend 300% less time learning the interface as everything just makes sense... Blender, while powerful, is like learning to play the piano, as you have to memorize dozens of awkward key strokes to do simple tasks, many of which feel arbitrary and make no sense. Almost like the developers though, well, we need to have users do this easily...but we ran out of keys, lets make it some funky shift-alt-u, even though the letter U is not even in the operation.
Didnt mean to go on a tangent, I do like the power and features of blender, just saying beginners learning should start in wings3d, learn the the basic modifiers and mesh editing terms.
Blender 2.6 completely rewrote the UI from the ground up. Press space, and it brings up a search bar; type any letter, and it shows a lit of every command with that letter in the name. They also remapped all of the hotkeys, which was a source of great frustration to everyone like myself, who memorised the old awkward unix style keys. Because that is what the keybinds were based on, old 70's era UNIX/emacs style key commands. ^^
Did you really just say you can promote your neverwinter quest via real money transaction (RMT)?
Yes, I did. Because you can. In the real world - everything can be purchased with real money. And MMO's are a part of the real world.
1) Buy 1000 keys using zen (RMT)
2) Open 1000 lockboxes.
3) Sell everything on the auction house for AD.
4) Use that AD in 100k giveaway contests, like in the screenshot I posted above.
5) Get on the best list, get your achievements/cloaks/pets/mount.
I do not entirely disagree. There is a 99.9% chance I will be playing ESO the day it is released; Gauntlegrym just doesn't even come close to a day's long castle siege between 3 different factions. ESO will have brutal open world pvp, but ESO has no UGC. So I will play it while the PVP is hot, but there is one itch that it will never scratch. I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP because of all the xbox carebears who cry that they can't visit their favorite town from oblivion without getting ganked by vampire twinks.
Here we agree. I have been waiting for ESO since the first day I stepped into a battleground in wow (I say wow because it was the first mmo I truly thought was great for pvp). I only hope it is as good as it should be.
Another thing about ESO is although I have stated I don't do PVE in mmo's that is because it is never as good as non mmo's if anyone can change that it is ESO.
'but ESO has no UGC' Sadly this is true but never say never, Remember Morrowind. But this is part of my point. If neverwinter upped the pvp content to a level that was really good.... could it compeate with the likes of eso? Possibly not but with the foundry as well... Then a foundry pvp... anything is possible. I would like to share your opinions that Cryptic will right the wrongs but I only have sto to compare.
'I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP' I understand what you mean. It seems that no one can quite get it right. I think wow was the closest simply by having pvp and pve realms. Why not just have an on off system. Those that want pvp there you go, those that don't there you go also. You would need a buff though so people could not just turn it off once they have killed. an hour cooldawn on the option on or off would perhaps help. Or perhaps remove ganking with the use of level brackets. Another topic though.
One thing is sure though. I will not be playing ESO on the xbox. If they have mixed realms for PS and PC maybe PS but otherwise it will be PC all the way for me.
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elewyndylMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Here we agree. I have been waiting for ESO since the first day I stepped into a battleground in wow (I say wow because it was the first mmo I truly thought was great for pvp). I only hope it is as good as it should be.
Another thing about ESO is although I have stated I don't do PVE in mmo's that is because it is never as good as non mmo's if anyone can change that it is ESO.
'but ESO has no UGC' Sadly this is true but never say never, Remember Morrowind. But this is part of my point. If neverwinter upped the pvp content to a level that was really good.... could it compeate with the likes of eso? Possibly not but with the foundry as well... Then a foundry pvp... anything is possible. I would like to share your opinions that Cryptic will right the wrongs but I only have sto to compare.
'I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP' I understand what you mean. It seems that no one can quite get it right. I think wow was the closest simply by having pvp and pve realms. Why not just have an on off system. Those that want pvp there you go, those that don't there you go also. You would need a buff though so people could not just turn it off once they have killed. an hour cooldawn on the option on or off would perhaps help. Or perhaps remove ganking with the use of level brackets. Another topic though.
One thing is sure though. I will not be playing ESO on the xbox. If they have mixed realms for PS and PC maybe PS but otherwise it will be PC all the way for me.
Ok here is my view of Elder Srolls Online vs Neverwinter MMO.
Neverwinter MMO:
+ Endgame. Ok even if I mentioned rank 9 and rank 10 enchantment I think most free hardcore players will settle for rank 7 or rank 8 enchantments. Bottom line is though for a free player max your character with eveything does not happen fast.
+ Action combat.
+ Forgotten Realms DD world.
+ Foundry
+ Good PvE Dungeons.
+ Good PvP what little exist.
+ Despite pay to win it is possible for free to play no argument against that is valid.
Neutral: Mediocre graphics.
- PvP has not much choice. One of my wishes have been long time that PvP would get more different options and maps. For example Capture the Flag that was nice in WOW.
- Perhaps a bit to much instanced and there is no feel of world map travel like in WOW.
My vote: 9/10 a classic!
vs
Elder Scrolls Online.
+ Supports even World PvP. Personally after trying full PvP in Age of Conan I like more voluntary PvP that said
good it has also support for World PvP.
+ Good Graphics.
- 60$ and 15$ dollar subfee.
- I am one of those players that liked Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2. I dislike Elder Scrolls 3 and Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion and so did my brother. I have never liked this attitude find what to do or spend hours searching. To put it simply I think Z in Neverwinter is a great feature though sometimes I explore a sidepath but I want that clear path.
- No endgame in gear progression. No raids. Lol dungeon group max is 4 people! There is so called Public Dungeons but they don't give better loot. The ONLY way to get best items is crafting or to buy from crafters.
- No Auction house and lol I said only way to get best items is to buy or craft them. It is possible to trade between players.
My vote: 6/10 which shows my interest in that game.
Well if you loved Skyrim and Oblivion then maybe this game is for you. I think some players that love Guild Wars 2 no gear progression will like this also. My sincere question how on earth will they manage to hold subfee when there is NO loot to get better?!
If I am ever going to try Elder Scrolls Online that will be if they remove subfee. Oh and while I don't have millions I am not poor. I own 2 small apartments in the capitol area of my country and I have renting income. However I still have mortage(debt) to pay for the other newer apartment and I have big economical plans and I don't like sub fees.
My sincere question how on earth will they manage to hold subfee when there is NO loot to get better?!
Easy answer, great PVP, great game. Only time will tell if it is or not. As for the sub fee I partly agree with you. I don't mind paying a sub if I feel it is worth it. I will never pay a micro transaction. People like different options. The people who have got this right down to a tee is SWTOR. You pick, it's that simple. Shame the game was just another wow clone. If I wanted to play wow I would. Mrs loves SWTOR though.
I can't agree with your ratings though. Neverwinter is never a 9/10 imo Wow at it's best was only a 9/10, at it's very best. During The Burning Crusade and although Neverwinter is now a better game in many ways, such as foundry it never has the same addiction rating as WOW once did. The best thing about Neverwinter is that it is not trying to be WOW.
Forgotten Realms DD world? What with Unicorn mounts and Dragons at level 30, It's not a plus imo, I think they kind of mess with it. But to be fair I'm not a big D&D buff, this is my first experience of it and for the sake of my own foundry quests I have read much. Which is why I don't think it's a great plus. The game is not true to the Lore. I say again, Unicorn mounts, that's called selling out big time. Good PvE Dungeons? Each to their own, imo they are very poor. I would say most peoples foundry quests are better. Good PvP what little exist? No, just no. Domination is garbage, I do like the combat system though so it 'could' be good but 'could' is key.
I'm not going to rate ESO as it's not even out and to do so would be jumping the gun. To be honest though the one game that has me foaming at the mouth the most is Black Desert Online, that just looks amazing. Probably will never come to Europe though. You won't like it, Z will not be a feature for sure. No one holding your hand it that game.
Anyway Neverwinter for me is a 7/10 because of the foundry. Take that away and it's a 2/10 at best. Honestly though I'm glad your so happy with it. At least someone is.
I also didn't really hang with you guys, but I am a NW Vet.
but i've been playing NW since the first beta weekend
i've made a foundry mission involving the windmill (Windmill Party)
near the auction house it isn't really big or profitable it is more cute for rp.
I love this game. :P
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elewyndylMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Easy answer, great PVP, great game. Only time will tell if it is or not. As for the sub fee I partly agree with you. I don't mind paying a sub if I feel it is worth it. I will never pay a micro transaction. People like different options. The people who have got this right down to a tee is SWTOR. You pick, it's that simple. Shame the game was just another wow clone. If I wanted to play wow I would. Mrs loves SWTOR though.
I can't agree with your ratings though. Neverwinter is never a 9/10 imo Wow at it's best was only a 9/10, at it's very best. During The Burning Crusade and although Neverwinter is now a better game in many ways, such as foundry it never has the same addiction rating as WOW once did. The best thing about Neverwinter is that it is not trying to be WOW.
Forgotten Realms DD world? What with Unicorn mounts and Dragons at level 30, It's not a plus imo, I think they kind of mess with it. But to be fair I'm not a big D&D buff, this is my first experience of it and for the sake of my own foundry quests I have read much. Which is why I don't think it's a great plus. The game is not true to the Lore. I say again, Unicorn mounts, that's called selling out big time. Good PvE Dungeons? Each to their own, imo they are very poor. I would say most peoples foundry quests are better. Good PvP what little exist? No, just no. Domination is garbage, I do like the combat system though so it 'could' be good but 'could' is key.
I'm not going to rate ESO as it's not even out and to do so would be jumping the gun. To be honest though the one game that has me foaming at the mouth the most is Black Desert Online, that just looks amazing. Probably will never come to Europe though. You won't like it, Z will not be a feature for sure. No one holding your hand it that game.
Anyway Neverwinter for me is a 7/10 because of the foundry. Take that away and it's a 2/10 at best. Honestly though I'm glad your so happy with it. At least someone is.
Could you stop spreading misinformation please? Black Desert Online is 90% sure coming to Europe. There exist strong rumors that it will be released 2015 in EU. It is first released in SouthKorea and maybe countries like Japan.
Areas in world that might not get release are like Africa, SouthAmerica and Australia and I have nothing against those people who leave in those areas of the world, but I don't decide marketing/selling of games.
Domination garbage is your subjective opinion I think it is ok. As for Dungeons I don't like every Dungeon out there. Finally no Foundry is NOT the best part of Neverwinter for me. There are lots of HAMSTER Foundry content but I will not open a thread of 1-2 star Foundry adventures. Best Dungeons beat most Foundry adventures easily the exception is perhaps those that I have listed as my best Foundry adventures though there exist hundreds of Foundry adventures that I have not yet tried.
Tears of Selune Campaign did not make it to my best list but it was so close to get there so yeah it is better then most(not all) Dungeons, but Dungeons give the best loot.
Could you stop spreading misinformation please? Black Desert Online is 90% sure coming to Europe. There exist strong rumors that it will be released 2015 in EU. It is first released in SouthKorea and maybe countries like Japan.
Areas in world that might not get release are like Africa, SouthAmerica and Australia and I have nothing against those people who leave in those areas of the world, but I don't decide marketing/selling of games.
Actually until they find a publisher it is not coming to Europe. So when they find a publisher then it's a go, until then it's not, so it's not misinformation.
I'm not sure why you brought the Tears of Selune Campaign up but I still stand by what I said, that and many other quests are better than the dungeons. The ones I have played anyway.
And by the way, all the opinions, yours, mine and anyone else that wants to chip in are subjective. That's the point, it's a forum.
Why does every thread have to devolve into a whining competition about which features people like the most or least in this game? Is it too much to ask to respect that sometimes people want to talk about other things with each other once in a while?
Wow....this thread spun a little out of control. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with my original topic....
Anywho, update, I have been predisposed by other RL issues, but hopefully this coming week (after the ESO beta weekend) I will be able to devote a little time to remaking my first quest and then moving on to the second.
My quest was deleted in July of 2013. There were no issues, it had not violated any rules. Was deemed a bug. That quest is still missing.
RIP - Dirty Politics May 21st, 2013 - July 30th, 2013
Wow....this thread spun a little out of control. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with my original topic....
Anywho, update, I have been predisposed by other RL issues, but hopefully this coming week (after the ESO beta weekend) I will be able to devote a little time to remaking my first quest and then moving on to the second.
Actually until they find a publisher it is not coming to Europe. So when they find a publisher then it's a go, until then it's not, so it's not misinformation.
I'm not sure why you brought the Tears of Selune Campaign up but I still stand by what I said, that and many other quests are better than the dungeons. The ones I have played anyway.
And by the way, all the opinions, yours, mine and anyone else that wants to chip in are subjective. That's the point, it's a forum.
Lets bury this topic for now and yeah it is subjective taste. Enjoyed very much capturing nodes with my Rogue yesterday. I have bought fastest horse with AD traded to ZEN so all my characters can use it.
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delthaninMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 188Bounty Hunter
edited November 2013
I'll check the Foundry forum every great once in awhile, to see if any new stuff has come up for it. Don't really play regularly anymore, though. Been busy with a lot of R/L stuff, and been playing other games.
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apocrs1980Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, SilverstarsPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
Hey there folks,
It's the guy with the blue text, I'm still here Shorelong and it's nice to see so many posts my so many familiar faces.
I have a Dungeon that already has all of the maps finished just no encounters since we do not have group content. I'm tired of trying to piece normal encounters together to make a challenging boss fight that 3-5 people can take out without just swarming them with armies of mobs. So, as Robobo stated once and if they implement group content in the foundry I'll be publishing it.
Act III of Ravenloft will be on the back burner as it takes a lot of time for me to research the lore and put a decent story together for the players, what takes me 3 months to create people burn through in 30 min.
as for what I've been doing these past few months, FFXIV, and am also helping out Bethesda with their Beta testing. However, since I haven't been very vocal on the forums perhaps Robobo and Mapolis breathed a sigh of relief for me not hounding them for new features. (where are our Boss encounters fellas?? hmmm?) JK love you guys! And foundry is still one of the greatest creation tools out there. I'll still be around and I'll still be creating, just at this juncture I need new content to help fuel my passion
okay, okay... /rant
love, Apoc
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ellindar1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
Hiya Apoc I haven't even had the game installed in quite some time. Used to pop in to check my underdark quest and work on it sequel but after everything that happened and all that drama it just wasn't fun anymore. Shame to hear about Ravenloft Ch. 3. Imo those 2 were the best foundries created. True to D&D, looked beautiful and fun to play. All the things the content should be.
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runis12Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I have past leadership down to another member in my guild. I have not played in months. The guild I started is doing very well. I do come to these forums almost everyday.....waiting for them to fix the best/new tabs.
- No endgame in gear progression. No raids. Lol dungeon group max is 4 people! There is so called Public Dungeons but they don't give better loot. The ONLY way to get best items is crafting or to buy from crafters.
Gear progression as endgame content is a horrid concept. Gear is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself. The goal of endgame should be killing stuff with your epic uber weapon, not collecting your epic uber weapon.
And the difference between 1 person makes or breaks a dungeon? I don't think so. Phantasy Star Online 2 had some really fun dungeons and that game has only 4 player groups. I don't think Neverwinter Online would lose much if it only had 4 players.
Other then that yeah. Exploration is a huge thing - the whole point is to get lost spending hours searching for stuff to do in a great looking fantasy world. Elder scrolls is not trying to be a hack and slash action roleplaying game, it is trying to be a realistic dungeon exploration simulation.
Other then that yeah. Exploration is a huge thing - the whole point is to get lost spending hours searching for stuff to do in a great looking fantasy world. Elder scrolls is not trying to be a hack and slash action roleplaying game, it is trying to be a realistic dungeon exploration simulation.
Cheers for the link. I think your points about getting lost in an open world are spot on. It is one thing I miss about RPG's today (The good ones). They seem to be taking this aspect out of many mmorpg games for sparkly trails and set quest patterns. Some games even take you to next npc with the press of a button so you can make a cup of tea or something. It's a game, I don't need it played for me.
It is demonstrated in some foundry comments. Apparently if you remove the trail and the player has to read a simple instruction such as 'Go to the west keep door, it is a puzzle quest. I just thought that was standard rpg.
I think a really good system for trading in a game is Age of Wushu, Stalls basically. I also like the fact that toons are still active while the player is logged off. I guess no one game will cover everything.
I'm looking forward to ESO, but I'm also looking forward to having a Ranger here and my latest quest is out very soon. I think I will be torn between ESO and Neverwinter foundry, if they introduce pvp foundry the decision of which to play would be much harder.
I tried 'A real reborn' and thought is was cack! They did give me my money back though so that was good. A stunning game with many really good features and if it were free I would have stuck with it for longer but the story telling was not for me and really ruined the game for me.
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xhritMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I'm looking forward to ESO, but I'm also looking forward to having a Ranger here and my latest quest is out very soon. I think I will be torn between ESO and Neverwinter foundry, if they introduce pvp foundry the decision of which to play would be much harder.
I am also looking forward to ranger, but none of my friends are so I think I will hold off on rolling one until there is another new class to pair it with; otherwise I will be leveling solo, and mmos are much more fun when I have friends to level with me. My latest quest has not gotten past the outline stage; I was holding off starting it until we get some new mobs, but now I think I am holding off starting it until the featured quest foundry bug is fixed, and we get some new mobs.
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I'm currently busy with other games and the upcoming PS4 release (this is in Europe), but once things calm down I will finish the quest I'm working on. It's so close to completion that I can taste it.
THERE you are. I see only a snippet here and there from you.
Here are some basic wishes that has become true of this game that are all my wishes:
1. Succubus monster included. I think I posted 10+ posts about that and this video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBorAzrfU18
2. Enough hardcore and not a casual carebear game like Guild Wars 2. Yes it is ENOUGH hardcore for a free player. I mean prices for Rank 9 and Rank 10 enchantments are very expensive.
3. Ranger as next class to be released and YES Ranger is going to be next class!
Such as?
I love the foundry but spend next to no time playing the game. In fact the only time I do spend playing is trading reviews. A process that is a must rather than enjoyable. That is not to say I don't enjoy other peoples quests, but they can be very hit and miss. I have found myself overlooking quests I would choose in favour of quests that people will trade reviews.
Everything good about this game is made bad by Cryptic. Such as the great combat system for PVP but the dull 5v5 domination being the only map. Or the fantastic tool that is the foundry backed by the worse possible system for promoting ones work.
If you can tell me another game that has a tool such as the foundry that is as simple to use but as rewarding in the final outcome then be sure to tell me, as I will be the first to jump ship.
Download mingw, blender, and gimp; with these three things you can literally make anything you imagine. Of course there is no game, just tools, so you have to make everything yourself.
Everything good about the game was made by Cryptic. Everything bad about the game can be made good by Cryptic, in time.
That was sorta my point. Neverwinter Nights 2 had a better toolset. Cryengine 3 has a better toolset. Blender Game Engine has a better toolset. There are lots of better toolsets, but none are attached to better games. If you want one, you are going to have to make it yourself.
Just be grateful you have a tool to use at all?
Seriously, go make your own game, code everything from scratch, make all your own art. then realize in the real world, there are 0 tools given to you to promote your work. And if you don't promote your work, then across the entire internet there will be 0 cares given about it. The story in my free open source game is way better then Tears of Selune, but my Neverwinter quests have been played a lot more.
Promoting your works IRL requires time and effort, or RMT - which incidentally also works for your neverwinter quest.
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I have no interest in making a game or any time in which to do so and I am grateful I have the tool, which is why even with the frustrations I continue making quests.
but I'm not going to close my eyes and cover my ears and pretend that everything in this game is great because they do one thing better than everyone else. If people don't speak, things don't change. The very fact that I would bother coming to the forum and voicing my opinion speaks volumes about my opinion of the game.
If Neverwinter is going to last the devs need to listen to what people want. Which is:
When it comes to the foundry (although probably a small amount of players) this is a better search system and more reason for people to play the quests.
When it comes to PVP it's better maps, or just more maps.
When it comes to PVE, I couldn't possibly say. I have no opinion about that but there are some great games due in 2014/2015 so if Neverwinter want to compete then they need to improve in all area's.
I have been playing mmo's for a long time and tried very hard to bring my friends to Neverwinter, not one of them have continued more than a month or so. They don't share my enthusiasm for the foundry and the game offers very little else. You can disagree all you want but there you go.
If you are just getting into modeling however, Wins3d is ni my opinion the best tool out there for beginners. You will spend 300% less time learning the interface as everything just makes sense. Want to select edges, press E, want to select vertexes? Press...you guess it V. All mesh the major mesh tools are accessed via right click context menu. Want to extrude, click the edge or face, right click and select extrude, and then select the axis or just select normal.
Blender, while powerful, is like learning to play the piano, as you have to memorize dozens of awkward key strokes to do simple tasks, many of which feel arbitrary and make no sense. Almost like the developers though, well, we need to have users do this easily...but we ran out of keys, lets make it some funky shift-alt-u, even though the letter U is not even in the operation.
Didnt mean to go on a tangent, I do like the power and features of blender, just saying beginners learning should start in wings3d, learn the the basic modifiers and mesh editing terms.
As someone who has made their own game, I can attest to the fact that user feedback is one of the most important things in the development process. The most important thing however, is time to iterate on said feedback. There has been exactly one development cycle since general release, when module 2 came out. In that time, Cryptic managed to edit the search page to include tags, so they are aware of the issue. Hopefully module 2 will refine the concept.
Your friends actually played for a whole month? Mine lasted about a week. There is only about a month's worth of content in Neverwinter, aside from the Foundry. And the foundry is not 'endgame' content. You can level cap a character, and fully gear it in a month - to most people that is winning the game.
I do not entirely disagree. There is a 99.9% chance I will be playing ESO the day it is released; Gauntlegrym just doesn't even come close to a day's long castle siege between 3 different factions. ESO will have brutal open world pvp, but ESO has no UGC. So I will play it while the PVP is hot, but there is one itch that it will never scratch. I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP because of all the xbox carebears who cry that they can't visit their favorite town from oblivion without getting ganked by vampire twinks.
Blender 2.6 completely rewrote the UI from the ground up. Press space, and it brings up a search bar; type any letter, and it shows a lit of every command with that letter in the name. They also remapped all of the hotkeys, which was a source of great frustration to everyone like myself, who memorised the old awkward unix style keys. Because that is what the keybinds were based on, old 70's era UNIX/emacs style key commands. ^^
Yes, I did. Because you can. In the real world - everything can be purchased with real money. And MMO's are a part of the real world.
1) Buy 1000 keys using zen (RMT)
2) Open 1000 lockboxes.
3) Sell everything on the auction house for AD.
4) Use that AD in 100k giveaway contests, like in the screenshot I posted above.
5) Get on the best list, get your achievements/cloaks/pets/mount.
Life is Pay to Win.
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Here we agree. I have been waiting for ESO since the first day I stepped into a battleground in wow (I say wow because it was the first mmo I truly thought was great for pvp). I only hope it is as good as it should be.
Another thing about ESO is although I have stated I don't do PVE in mmo's that is because it is never as good as non mmo's if anyone can change that it is ESO.
'but ESO has no UGC' Sadly this is true but never say never, Remember Morrowind. But this is part of my point. If neverwinter upped the pvp content to a level that was really good.... could it compeate with the likes of eso? Possibly not but with the foundry as well... Then a foundry pvp... anything is possible. I would like to share your opinions that Cryptic will right the wrongs but I only have sto to compare.
'I will be back playing neverwinter the day Zenimax removes open world PVP' I understand what you mean. It seems that no one can quite get it right. I think wow was the closest simply by having pvp and pve realms. Why not just have an on off system. Those that want pvp there you go, those that don't there you go also. You would need a buff though so people could not just turn it off once they have killed. an hour cooldawn on the option on or off would perhaps help. Or perhaps remove ganking with the use of level brackets. Another topic though.
One thing is sure though. I will not be playing ESO on the xbox. If they have mixed realms for PS and PC maybe PS but otherwise it will be PC all the way for me.
Ok here is my view of Elder Srolls Online vs Neverwinter MMO.
Neverwinter MMO:
+ Endgame. Ok even if I mentioned rank 9 and rank 10 enchantment I think most free hardcore players will settle for rank 7 or rank 8 enchantments. Bottom line is though for a free player max your character with eveything does not happen fast.
+ Action combat.
+ Forgotten Realms DD world.
+ Foundry
+ Good PvE Dungeons.
+ Good PvP what little exist.
+ Despite pay to win it is possible for free to play no argument against that is valid.
Neutral: Mediocre graphics.
- PvP has not much choice. One of my wishes have been long time that PvP would get more different options and maps. For example Capture the Flag that was nice in WOW.
- Perhaps a bit to much instanced and there is no feel of world map travel like in WOW.
My vote: 9/10 a classic!
vs
Elder Scrolls Online.
+ Supports even World PvP. Personally after trying full PvP in Age of Conan I like more voluntary PvP that said
good it has also support for World PvP.
+ Good Graphics.
- 60$ and 15$ dollar subfee.
- I am one of those players that liked Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2. I dislike Elder Scrolls 3 and Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion and so did my brother. I have never liked this attitude find what to do or spend hours searching. To put it simply I think Z in Neverwinter is a great feature though sometimes I explore a sidepath but I want that clear path.
- No endgame in gear progression. No raids. Lol dungeon group max is 4 people! There is so called Public Dungeons but they don't give better loot. The ONLY way to get best items is crafting or to buy from crafters.
- No Auction house and lol I said only way to get best items is to buy or craft them. It is possible to trade between players.
My vote: 6/10 which shows my interest in that game.
Well if you loved Skyrim and Oblivion then maybe this game is for you. I think some players that love Guild Wars 2 no gear progression will like this also. My sincere question how on earth will they manage to hold subfee when there is NO loot to get better?!
If I am ever going to try Elder Scrolls Online that will be if they remove subfee. Oh and while I don't have millions I am not poor. I own 2 small apartments in the capitol area of my country and I have renting income. However I still have mortage(debt) to pay for the other newer apartment and I have big economical plans and I don't like sub fees.
Easy answer, great PVP, great game. Only time will tell if it is or not. As for the sub fee I partly agree with you. I don't mind paying a sub if I feel it is worth it. I will never pay a micro transaction. People like different options. The people who have got this right down to a tee is SWTOR. You pick, it's that simple. Shame the game was just another wow clone. If I wanted to play wow I would. Mrs loves SWTOR though.
I can't agree with your ratings though. Neverwinter is never a 9/10 imo Wow at it's best was only a 9/10, at it's very best. During The Burning Crusade and although Neverwinter is now a better game in many ways, such as foundry it never has the same addiction rating as WOW once did. The best thing about Neverwinter is that it is not trying to be WOW.
Forgotten Realms DD world? What with Unicorn mounts and Dragons at level 30, It's not a plus imo, I think they kind of mess with it. But to be fair I'm not a big D&D buff, this is my first experience of it and for the sake of my own foundry quests I have read much. Which is why I don't think it's a great plus. The game is not true to the Lore. I say again, Unicorn mounts, that's called selling out big time.
Good PvE Dungeons? Each to their own, imo they are very poor. I would say most peoples foundry quests are better.
Good PvP what little exist? No, just no. Domination is garbage, I do like the combat system though so it 'could' be good but 'could' is key.
I'm not going to rate ESO as it's not even out and to do so would be jumping the gun. To be honest though the one game that has me foaming at the mouth the most is Black Desert Online, that just looks amazing. Probably will never come to Europe though. You won't like it, Z will not be a feature for sure. No one holding your hand it that game.
Anyway Neverwinter for me is a 7/10 because of the foundry. Take that away and it's a 2/10 at best. Honestly though I'm glad your so happy with it. At least someone is.
but i've been playing NW since the first beta weekend
i've made a foundry mission involving the windmill (Windmill Party)
near the auction house it isn't really big or profitable it is more cute for rp.
I love this game. :P
Areas in world that might not get release are like Africa, SouthAmerica and Australia and I have nothing against those people who leave in those areas of the world, but I don't decide marketing/selling of games.
Domination garbage is your subjective opinion I think it is ok. As for Dungeons I don't like every Dungeon out there. Finally no Foundry is NOT the best part of Neverwinter for me. There are lots of HAMSTER Foundry content but I will not open a thread of 1-2 star Foundry adventures. Best Dungeons beat most Foundry adventures easily the exception is perhaps those that I have listed as my best Foundry adventures though there exist hundreds of Foundry adventures that I have not yet tried.
Tears of Selune Campaign did not make it to my best list but it was so close to get there so yeah it is better then most(not all) Dungeons, but Dungeons give the best loot.
Actually until they find a publisher it is not coming to Europe. So when they find a publisher then it's a go, until then it's not, so it's not misinformation.
I'm not sure why you brought the Tears of Selune Campaign up but I still stand by what I said, that and many other quests are better than the dungeons. The ones I have played anyway.
And by the way, all the opinions, yours, mine and anyone else that wants to chip in are subjective. That's the point, it's a forum.
Anywho, update, I have been predisposed by other RL issues, but hopefully this coming week (after the ESO beta weekend) I will be able to devote a little time to remaking my first quest and then moving on to the second.
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I have a Dungeon that already has all of the maps finished just no encounters since we do not have group content. I'm tired of trying to piece normal encounters together to make a challenging boss fight that 3-5 people can take out without just swarming them with armies of mobs. So, as Robobo stated once and if they implement group content in the foundry I'll be publishing it.
Act III of Ravenloft will be on the back burner as it takes a lot of time for me to research the lore and put a decent story together for the players, what takes me 3 months to create people burn through in 30 min.
as for what I've been doing these past few months, FFXIV, and am also helping out Bethesda with their Beta testing. However, since I haven't been very vocal on the forums perhaps Robobo and Mapolis breathed a sigh of relief for me not hounding them for new features. (where are our Boss encounters fellas?? hmmm?) JK love you guys! And foundry is still one of the greatest creation tools out there. I'll still be around and I'll still be creating, just at this juncture I need new content to help fuel my passion
okay, okay... /rant
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Gear progression as endgame content is a horrid concept. Gear is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself. The goal of endgame should be killing stuff with your epic uber weapon, not collecting your epic uber weapon.
And the difference between 1 person makes or breaks a dungeon? I don't think so. Phantasy Star Online 2 had some really fun dungeons and that game has only 4 player groups. I don't think Neverwinter Online would lose much if it only had 4 players.
From what I hear, there are guild stores.
Other then that yeah. Exploration is a huge thing - the whole point is to get lost spending hours searching for stuff to do in a great looking fantasy world. Elder scrolls is not trying to be a hack and slash action roleplaying game, it is trying to be a realistic dungeon exploration simulation.
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Cheers for the link. I think your points about getting lost in an open world are spot on. It is one thing I miss about RPG's today (The good ones). They seem to be taking this aspect out of many mmorpg games for sparkly trails and set quest patterns. Some games even take you to next npc with the press of a button so you can make a cup of tea or something. It's a game, I don't need it played for me.
It is demonstrated in some foundry comments. Apparently if you remove the trail and the player has to read a simple instruction such as 'Go to the west keep door, it is a puzzle quest. I just thought that was standard rpg.
I think a really good system for trading in a game is Age of Wushu, Stalls basically. I also like the fact that toons are still active while the player is logged off. I guess no one game will cover everything.
I'm looking forward to ESO, but I'm also looking forward to having a Ranger here and my latest quest is out very soon. I think I will be torn between ESO and Neverwinter foundry, if they introduce pvp foundry the decision of which to play would be much harder.
I tried 'A real reborn' and thought is was cack! They did give me my money back though so that was good. A stunning game with many really good features and if it were free I would have stuck with it for longer but the story telling was not for me and really ruined the game for me.
I am also looking forward to ranger, but none of my friends are so I think I will hold off on rolling one until there is another new class to pair it with; otherwise I will be leveling solo, and mmos are much more fun when I have friends to level with me. My latest quest has not gotten past the outline stage; I was holding off starting it until we get some new mobs, but now I think I am holding off starting it until the featured quest foundry bug is fixed, and we get some new mobs.
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