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make all z store items BOP to stop ad farmers and sellers webs

warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
atm guys u made very easy to earn a lot of ad to them with weakly sales they earn milions with items from z store ,BoP items from z store would cut them out of resell and easy profit makeing
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  • vrtesseractvrtesseract Member Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I think that's the point a lot of zen ite come in packs of 4 dyes or 3 outfit piece and people need it to be BOE so that they can send bits to ther characters and or friends or resell bits they do not want. I know id be less likely to want to pay for a 3 piece set if I only wanted one item and the other 2 would be wasted space.

    Personally I think what they should do is make account banks and all bind on character suddenly is bind on account this will increase the value of 1 account and increase the amount of people buying bank slots and character slots. start the account bank with something like 5 slots and charge 100z for each extra slot. since its a complete luxury they can get away with it being expensive.

    also if some of the fashion bits I own were BOA rather than BOC id be much more ready to buy outfits and pets for characters I intending on rerolling because there is nothing ...."wasted". Ive also suggested having a fashion tab. maybe fashion/mount and even pet tabs could be made account wide.

    or they could have special fashion/mount bags that could go in the idle pet tab that could be bought for zen or drop randomly when buying stuff for real $$.

    example of why account fashion items is better: I have a wedding top on a girl who would really be perfect for the courtly regalia, if I could send the wedding top to another character id probably run right out and grab a points card, and then id buy the regalia and some dyes for both regalia and the wedding top.... but I don't so id probably just keep the wedding top and not waste the inventory slots on another costume set since I already have several parts I do not use since I bound them without realizing they would look bad since you cant preview bits without buying.

    I avoid buying inventory also because ive no idea if ill want to reroll the character later when some ew race/class comes out that would fit the character better. and race/class change tokens are a heavily argued against feature.

    I suppose they could have a unbind option that would cost a flat AD amount (similar to transmute) which would probably discourage doing that for resale alone but if someone is rerolling having a transfer item to alt for a fee could be a good money maker for PWE.
  • fdsakhfduewhfiuffdsakhfduewhfiuf Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Changing to "bound to account" is a great idea. It's really frustrating to find BoP stuff that the current character cannot use because it's for a different class. The only options left are selling or converting to AD. That's annyoing.

    Also, having companions on the wrong character is a waste. My GF had two dancing swords in his bank account. Since I missed the change from BoE to BoP (my fault) he now has one totally useless sword.

    I'd also love to have account-wide bank accounts. It's a nuisance having to use mail to transfer stuff from charater to character.
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    +1 for bind on account companions. They cost way too much to be used only on 1 char even more so now when they grant bonuses same for fashion items.
  • banaancbanaanc Member Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    the second zen store items becomes BoP ill leave this game, its getting way too much pay2win as it is with mod2

  • xushin7xushin7 Member Posts: 147 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    zen store items becoming bind on pick up is a surpremely dumb move.
    This will hurt waaaay too many of the regular playerbase than it would help.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    xushin7 wrote: »
    zen store items becoming bind on pick up is a surpremely dumb move.
    This will hurt waaaay too many of the regular playerbase than it would help.

    how would hurt them u still can exchange for ad and buy what u need this would only hurt ad farmers and ad sell webs they would lose insane easy profit makeing from z sales
  • dsolzdsolz Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    warpet wrote: »
    how would hurt them u still can exchange for ad and buy what u need this would only hurt ad farmers and ad sell webs they would lose insane easy profit makeing from z sales

    Just wondering why are you so against reselling of zen store items?
    Because you are seeing people benefiting from it and you do not have the capacity to act on it?

    I see more benefit of zen store item being BoE. First if PWE has a discount on stone. If tonnes of ppl see this as an opportunity to stock up and made profit, then a lot of players would be buying this up. After the discount window is closed. Players would be dumping this in the market, Sometime at lower the normal zen store price. So the mass are still benefiting to a certain extend.

    Not to mention that this is not without risk. The zen ad exchange rate fluctuates and the 10 percent sales cut in AH doesn't make this a super profitable business without risk.

    Same thing for coffer farmers who have 100 characters doing invoking. Without them the coals ward would have been at a higher price in AH.

    Just want to say every players in the market has a role in the economy.
  • silentraven72silentraven72 Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    xushin7 wrote: »
    zen store items becoming bind on pick up is a surpremely dumb move.
    This will hurt waaaay too many of the regular playerbase than it would help.

    I agree. I just picked up a Sprite, but it's for my future Ranger. I also try to get items for my brother, when I can. If companions and such became BoP from the Zen market, it would end my playing.
  • dragonladytjedragonladytje Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Not all ppl can donate for Zen but they can farm AD and buy in AH
  • abell39abell39 Member Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I oppose doing anything of the sort because it makes it impossible to get things from the Zen shop to give as gifts to friends. Making any Zen-store item BoP/BoA is a terrible idea for that reason alone.
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This would 100% kill the game for me.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Not all ppl can donate for Zen but they can farm AD and buy in AH

    If you can earn AD, you can exchange it for Zen and buy directly, without paying the AH seller's markup.

    Markup on Zen store items sold in the AH is probably the main thing the OP objects to, because there are sellers who take advantage of people who are bad at math, afraid of the exchange, etc. But there are too many legitimate reasons to want Zen store items to be tradeable for BoP to be a good idea.
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  • syka08syka08 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yeah... I'm not seeing any plus side to making more items BoP. If you don't want to buy them from the AH, then don't. It's entirely possible to buy items from there at a lower rate than the going Zen:AD exchange. So... why wouldn't you want the chance at saving money when possible and being smart and not spending it when it's Overpriced? Are you seriously opposed to having multiple avenues of gaining items?

    Be smart. Buy smart. There's nothing complicated there.
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  • snottysnotty Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 476 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    LOL, sure, make the zen store item BoP or BoA and watch the amount of money being spent on zen drop by 50% overnight. I don't know of any company that is dumb enough to do that.
  • imm0rtalboyimm0rtalboy Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    What if there was a limit for trading AD for Zen let's say if you want to buy Zen with AD you can buy 500zen maximum a day per account
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    No, absolutely not. If a legit player saves up and saves up and then wants to convert all their ADs into Zen at once because the weekly sale is finally something they wanted, they should not be faced with some arbitrary punitive chokepoint.
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  • truelokastertruelokaster Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    No, absolutely not. If a legit player saves up and saves up and then wants to convert all their ADs into Zen at once because the weekly sale is finally something they wanted, they should not be faced with some arbitrary punitive chokepoint.

    Agreed. +1
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