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When is gf and gwf
gdante7111111
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When is gf and gwf going to get a buff to attack and def, they are useless.
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The real problem is two fold -
1) Game mechanics for bosses. This has been sort of addressed in MC.
2) Any buffing to bring the GF or GWF up in PvE could seriously upset the class balance in PvP. Of which, the PvP crowd is the most vocal.
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Mark grant +8% damage. That's not the real problem. It is never the aggro system itself! Where you REALLY need a tank? FH? DC can do it too. Tank make some dungeons easier, but without them, you have no dungeon you can't complete or it's impossible - if you substrate brainzombies - in a normal team. MC was introduced to be less adds and more tank needed bosses, but what i see? Only DPS team work fine their too. 2nd Boss can easy kited or TR OPness tanking easy dealed with them.
Because they are to lazy to code abilities so they work differently in pvp to pve like a lot of other games do.
But balancing classes around a non existent pvp that ruins pve is one of the biggest fail I think I have seen from an mmo company.
Make some tight-knit spaces where AOE is limited in effect and capability. Spawn adds from doorways and tunnels behind the party, to make parties have to watch both directions as they move. Add mob behavior and change mob formations to include critters like archers and wizards who may decide to focus entirely on ranged party members over 'who's got threat'. Add mobs that can't be hurt by magic!
"D*mn wizards," said Morik the Rogue.
Learn what a GWF and GF really are: The History of Fighters
Regarding the GF.....what about having mark give all other party members combat advantage? Never played GWF....but don't they also have a taunt? That would create a synergistic relationship. I love the idea of GF but tanking is not practical as it is designed. I am not an expert tank but shield seems worthless....You are not able to shield through the big red attacks, and yet it makes you too slow to avoid them if you try to block anything.
First Even the GF does not have a traditional MMO "Taunt" a move that just makes threat, nothing else. a GF gets increased threat on marked targets. So All damage they deal generates more threat. The more damage a GF does the more threat they make. a GWF's mark does not do any of this. And a GWF's mark cannot be maintained like a GF's mark because one hit and the mark is gone GWF have no ways to avoid hits at all. No Mighty leap does not count.
A GWF's threat buffs work only on his lowest damage moves, Daring Shout, Come and Get it, Sure Strike, Slam. So Obviously the GWFs threat buffs that only come from paragon feats in the Sentinel tree are pathetic.
I've used daring shout and come and get it before, and while I accept they are utility skills, even with full bonuses to threat generation, pulling a mob that is already attacking someone else is hard. I can pull off of CW's and TR's, but I can't pull them out of a GF's threat.
GWF's could use some love here. Maybe increasing Daring Shouts base threat generation by another 100% or more, based on mob level. If we pop it, they should look for us.
"D*mn wizards," said Morik the Rogue.
Learn what a GWF and GF really are: The History of Fighters
Speed up the animation, and they'll lower the damage per hit.
I'm of the mentality that I'd rather that sword hit harder with fewer swings. Personal opinion, though. If cryptic did make the change you request, though, I'm almost certain they'd lower the damage of each individual swing to compensate.
"D*mn wizards," said Morik the Rogue.
Learn what a GWF and GF really are: The History of Fighters