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Dear Devs..... please look into this...might be kind of serious. another caturday?
xmeanseason305x
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as of right now....there are currently 23 pages in the Auction House of 100 million AD buyout items...
cant be coincidence can it? 1 or 2 perhaps....but 23 plus pages?...
please look into it.
cant be coincidence can it? 1 or 2 perhaps....but 23 plus pages?...
please look into it.
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I'd hate to see a roll-back
Spoon? There is no spoon.
Old member of Team Fencebane (R.I.P)
- One of the 5 core founders.
My guess is that they are putting those insanely high buyouts so that the issue with the sorting feature defaulting to "highest buyout first" is getting them notoriety so players can/will bid on the items.
If you have any further details which would supply evidence there is an actual exploit please don't hesitate to PM Sominator with any pertinent information. He's more than happy to pass on any exploit details to the appropriate location but do not, under any circumstance, post it on the forums for all to see.
Looks like a bug to me.
You can list an item with the highest possible buyout, and a 1AD opening bid, and pay no fee up front.
Sounds reasonable that the in-game default AH sort showing highest buyout first offers a possible explanation of visibility. Some people will throw everything they pick up on the AH in the faint hope someone else will buy it for one AD, even garbage.
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I hardly ever browse the AH in-game since Gateway is so much friendlier an interface. I don't think I've run across anything with no buyout listed the times I have been in-game trying to check a price, so I hadn't personally seen that they are placed above the crazypants buyout prices.
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Then why not fix the sorting feature default of "highest buyout first" to "lowest buyout first" which is what people want to sort by anyway?
I swear these Dev's work for our government. They take 6-8 weeks to acknowledge a bug, 3-4 weeks to talk about it, and 3-4 weeks to pass a vote to fix it. Then they screw up the fix.
I grit my teeth that I have to switch the view twice because even though it is supposed to show the lowest buyout first it opens displaying the highest buyout first regardless of settings.
It makes you wonder, doesn't it? I mean you have this quote:
From one of the recent patches here, which was the one that sort of fixed the sorting.
Now the question is, how does someone test the AH buyout sort functionality and not only not realize it's sorting by high->low by default instead of low->high, but not even click the buyout sort to see if the low->high sort also works? Since if they'd done that they presumably would have realized the first click changes it from high->low to...high->low again.
It boggles the mind, then toss in how inexplicably the in-game AH and gateway AH operate differently for no apparent reason.
For instance, when sorting by bid, auctions which don't allow bids should appear by buyout instead, ie:
bid 1 buyout 4
bid 2 buyout 4
bid - buyout 3
bid 3 buyout 4
That's common sense. On gateway no bid = a bid of 0 so they always show up first when sorting low->high. In-game no bid = infinite bid so they show up last when sorting low->high. Both wrong, but different.
Just plain wacky.
Okay, Panic.
That's what I thought when the 100M AD buyouts started popping up. However, this starts to make less sense when the first several pages of almost every item-type are filled w/ the same high buyout. If there are 20 radiant rank 5s w/ 100M buyouts, not all of them can be #1 on the list.
Still, the sorting explanation could be true, and I have no evidence to support an actual exploit. Just concern.
Iyon the Dark
People could still be gambling that they may end up on top.
To put an even lower buyout would simply put them into the middle of the mix even further than if they had the obnoxiously high buyout.
*shrugs*
I'm not saying there isn't an exploit of some kind. I am simply saying there's another, more likely and rational explanation. If you guys have additional evidence please don't hesitate to let the devs know (privately).
As it stands now I am seeing this as being very similar to the "He didn't respond to me so he must be botting!" claims that I have seen happen in other MMO's. That very well could mean there's something going on but it's not cold hard evidence. A bunch of people putting high buyouts doesn't mean there's an exploit.
Iyon the Dark
Or...
That the public has caught on to Money Laundering going on in the economy.
I mean..that would be a crime right ? Seeing how it has already been shown Digital Currency is catching on as Legal tender ( REFERENCE : Bitcoin )
And if Perfect World does nothing about it...that could be aiding and abetting
Here is the posting fee and the amount returned when a Item is not bought within the time frame of the auction
Over 400 of 100 million AD listings...
Kaylee Krankenwagen, level 60 GF | Tavandruil Wayfinder, level 49 GWF | Aldith Langley, level 51 HR
Which makes this even more interesting..
It's curious, but not evidence of anything.
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Yeah, that's the weird one.
All the ones that no longer say "starting bid", someone has bid on them. The ones that stay at 5AD, that's likely to be people with a surplus of AD and not much gold, though they really ought to stick to level 60 items to liquidate.
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