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siameasy
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currently have two chars at 60 with about 10k gs and a third who's fast approaching 60 but i need to vent as i simply cant progress because everyone on dragon who actually runs T2 dungeons only wants exp'd players.
My mage has all the pieces she needs from T2 pirate king and karrundax so i want to run ToS, FH and SP but i cant get into any groups that are forming and when i try to form one myself folks send me tells then lose interest once they realise i havent run the dungeon yet.
So now your going to say find a guild, done that - four times, first three died due to member inactivity and one accepted me and told me to queue/pug until i could run CN/MC as they were bored of running T2. I'm now in a guild with peeps i like but they dont run T2 unless its dungeon delve time and then its only to run pirate king twice so they can get some salvage loot.
So can i point out to everyone who keeps running exp only groups, its your choice but maybe you havent realised that your directly contributing to player pop decline (and imho moreso than the bugs people are currently blaming)
and yes, this is a post on a public forum, /flame away :-)
My mage has all the pieces she needs from T2 pirate king and karrundax so i want to run ToS, FH and SP but i cant get into any groups that are forming and when i try to form one myself folks send me tells then lose interest once they realise i havent run the dungeon yet.
So now your going to say find a guild, done that - four times, first three died due to member inactivity and one accepted me and told me to queue/pug until i could run CN/MC as they were bored of running T2. I'm now in a guild with peeps i like but they dont run T2 unless its dungeon delve time and then its only to run pirate king twice so they can get some salvage loot.
So can i point out to everyone who keeps running exp only groups, its your choice but maybe you havent realised that your directly contributing to player pop decline (and imho moreso than the bugs people are currently blaming)
and yes, this is a post on a public forum, /flame away :-)
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Some classes just have these dungeons where they contribute something vital and you dont want to rely on a newb trying to learn it as he goes. For tr for example its fh, cn, and to a lesser extent mc. Gwf its mc if you are actually doing 3/3, etc.
As a player with no dungeon experience your best bet is to play a dc. Experienced or not you'll always get a group and you can learn the dungeons and what the different classes are bringing to the table and apply that knowledge to your other characters. Not saying dc play isnt important or that there isnt nuances that seperate good from bad dcs, but they are the easiest class to play "good enough" to run dungeons.
Myself I PUG'ed until I learned the ropes. This is kind of a crapshoot I know but I got into more good groups than you'd think. I did have it a little easier since my main is a DC and it's much easier for me to get in.
I understand the mentality that goes into demanding "exped only". Things certainly go much easier for me as a DC when everyone knows their role. But when I form groups myself I always invite less experienced players and urge others to do the same.
Second, I've had my most enjoyable experiences when I form my own "legit only" teams - getting people together, even if inexperienced, who want to actually play the game, use tactics, and learn, is a very rewarding use of my time, IMO.
Take charge, form your own team, and get that experience you are looking for!
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
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If all else fails, then make a guild yourself or post an ad on the forums "looking for 4 friends to run T2". If you are going to play the role of victim and let others judge you in order to determine your fun in the game, then you may as well just throw in the towel now.
Do yourself a favor and ignore the singularity+shield response as this is a clear indication of an inexperienced cw.
And how did the first people who ran it learn? They had to figure things out as they went. Now that people have knowledge about what tactics work, they can choose to be elitist snobs about, (by only taking exp'd people), or by teaching and explaining what works best to new people... it's the whole "teach a man to fish" thing.
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When you join a party who is searching for experienced players, this is what you can expect:
speedrun, terrain exploit, bug/glitch boss fights, run to campfire and die, exit dungeon and re-enter to spawn at next campfire, ....
Speed runners can be demanding and uncompromising. They are running the dungeon to farm it. Having fun is not their goal.
Queue for dungeons or make party from your friends list or join parties which do not even mention "experience".
The fastest way to get boss loot and DD chest is to shortcut and bug. Experienced farmers (who do not run dungeons for fun) will usually attempt to shortcut and bug.
SP is only one dungeon, and even then since it's been changed there's only a handful of locations where it's more efficient to sing+push than it is to just kill the mobs. In fact, sing+shield combo is now only useful in a handful of locations in any dungeons. it's more useful in CN or ToS than in SP. Add to the fact that sing+shield does nothing on it's own now, mobs will simply jump back up, especially in SP, unless they are CC'd prior to push, and saying "oh you don't know what you're doing? just lie and say you're experienced, just sing+shield trololol" is the opposite of good advice.
Nope, it's plenty good advice for anyone who hasn't attained your levels of uber-l33t epeen. Queuing can be a nightmare so lying your way into a PUG is the way to go, at least for the overpopulated DPS classes. Even if it doesn't work out you at least trolled some hyper-l33tist exploit farmers, so either way it's good.
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- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
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- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
Sad. But imagine you're a gwf. You would not even have the T2 pirate king and karrundax.
Delete your chars and reroll a TR. The devs love TRs.
LOOL.. i think about this everynight while im playing
Anyways, im not experienced cause i never had the chance, but i can assure ima fast learner.
Any guild recruting a TR with 10.7k GS on Mindflyier? Im very active and i want to get better
And please i wanna run dungeons so i can get experienced (some loot is also apreciated)
First, I would at least start all of the dungeons, even if it's not Dungeon Delves time, so that you at least know what the dungeon looks like and some general idea of how to combat the mobs/bosses there. Also read up on the forums on strategies so that you know what to expect. That is so you aren't completely clueless about how to fight it.
Another strategy is to wait until the last 5-10 minutes of Dungeon Delves. There will generally be a group or two screaming in LFG chat that they just need 1 more member to get going and they are desperate to start in time, so they are more likely to consider less experienced members to join their team. But I would not be dishonest, I would just say up front that I haven't finished the dungeon before but I would be willing to give it a shot nonetheless. This worked for me yesterday with Spellplague. Unfortunately though we were unable to finish it, but I did get more experience with how to do it.
Edit: And now that I have actually been through the whole dungeon (even though not finished it), the next time there is a message on LFG chat of "LF1M CW EXP ONY PLZ" I can answer truthfully that I have experience!
that's why i normally queue lately for dungeons. in normal pugs there might be at least a higher chance that people actually try to fight through a dungeon - although it happens too often lately that people start to ask "do we want to glitch it or run normally" or "lets run there and die" or whatever.
- had patience to get some "decent" gear from AH (Archmage set/rank 4-5 enchants)
- start running pugs of T1 from queue to see how I perform in an epic dungeon, watched other CWs
- started running queues for T2, patiently waited to drop in with a guy that knew what to do, asked questions politely
- built 10K+ /stone gear, whispered some guys I've seen in /lfg spamming for an exp CW for long minutes "10K /stone, not experienced, but willing to learn, invite if you cannot find find better". I got invited 100%, and guess what? I was with another 4 guys that knew I had to be schooled, so I paid attention and did my best to learn.
From this point it's up to you to act friendly and perform decently and continue to improve (which I still do). People will start to invite you in speed runs and you will soon have friends you can run things with.
There's also the guild path, which might be easier, but don't expect handouts.
Good luck, it's possible.
What server was you on? It's hard finding mature people that would help let alone people with the patience to teach others.
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Mature only, no drama allowed, no greedy or overly impatient people allowed. We use raidcall for voice coms during group operations or even just chatting while we do our own things.
Or join a guild that willing to take new people to run staff.
This game has been made really hard for new unxep people, it is a sad truth. They should have raised T2 gs to something 9500 so nobody waste their time with pug that would never be able to finish the dungeon.
I recently helped form a new guild who is still up and coming. We do dungeon delves and are still learning the dungeons. We don't cheese, exploit, or anything like that, we have fun. We help each other out and are accepting new people. We're a casual guild focused on helping new players, running dungeons and enjoying the game as it's meant to be played. No level or class restrictions, just don't be a ****** or anything and all should be fine. We have a teamspeak, forums ( http://sanctum-order.proboards.com/ ), and chat on IRC when not in game. Shoot @tehdrago / @sabreuse / @EtriganBe or myself a mail/PM to join.
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