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[Dragon] Selling all ancient weapons 10% cheaper than AH

keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
edited September 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Hello community, I've no idea where to post this type of stuff, but I just want to get the word out there; I apologize in advanced, don't flame please :)

Yeah you guys read right, if you're in Dragon shard, we are selling all ancient mainhands and offhands for 10% cheaper than lowest Auction House buyout prices. Contact any Black Lotus member and ask for the guild lead, me :) we can discuss about what weapon(s) you want. Prices are subject to change so please do not ask me "how much?" we will tell you the price before we sell it to you (which is 10% cheaper than lowest buyout price) so no matter what, you will always get it for cheaper than the Auction House. If we do not have the weapon you want in stock, then I will add you and contact you as soon as we get it (1-2 days) its worth the wait!

Why are we doing this? well, simply, we have too many groups farming CN all day every day and our guild only does "split runs" and we have a rule of not undercutting each other in AH. So, I came up with a solution to push all these weapons without the hassle of undercutting and waiting to sell. Spread the word and contact me in game KING Ethan@keltinblaze1 thank you
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  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    Mod Edit: Please don't bump threads for the sake of bumping threads.
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  • goddessuniquegoddessunique Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Are these prices prefeywild? Or the overpriced inflation that's in ah now? You know where all gear is 4x the regular price?
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  • manholiomanholio Member Posts: 493 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    Are these prices prefeywild? Or the overpriced inflation that's in ah now? You know where all gear is 4x the regular price?

    I'll give you 3 guesses, and the first two don't count.
  • jarlsburgjarlsburg Member Posts: 222 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    I think we are stuck with the overinflated prices for now. I only see 5 or 6 of each item on the AH so the price won't start dropping unless no one is buying or more people start farming. I haven't been watching the AH close enough to really tell if anything is selling or if it is the same people listing the items over and over.
  • exarkun007exarkun007 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 113 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    Look at current AH prices. 800k for your weapon. Message this guy. He gets it for you for 720k. How is this difficult?
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    exarkun007 wrote: »
    Look at current AH prices. 800k for your weapon. Message this guy. He gets it for you for 720k. How is this difficult?
    thanks :) its very simple guys, best deal in town if you're on Dragon Shard!
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  • krisst0fkrisst0f Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Hello community, I've no idea where to post this type of stuff, but I just want to get the word out there; I apologize in advanced, don't flame please :)

    Yeah you guys read right, if you're in Dragon shard, we are selling all ancient mainhands and offhands for 10% cheaper than lowest Auction House buyout prices. Contact any Black Lotus member and ask for the guild lead, me :) we can discuss about what weapon(s) you want. Prices are subject to change so please do not ask me "how much?" we will tell you the price before we sell it to you (which is 10% cheaper than lowest buyout price) so no matter what, you will always get it for cheaper than the Auction House. If we do not have the weapon you want in stock, then I will add you and contact you as soon as we get it (1-2 days) its worth the wait!

    Why are we doing this? well, simply, we have too many groups farming CN all day every day and our guild only does "split runs" and we have a rule of not undercutting each other in AH. So, I came up with a solution to push all these weapons without the hassle of undercutting and waiting to sell. Spread the word and contact me in game KING Ethan@keltinblaze1 thank you

    So basically, your discount is only what you would have paid the auctioneer in the first place...
    Maybe 20% lower than lower would be a better deal to unload what you farmed...
  • inthefade462inthefade462 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    krisst0f wrote: »
    So basically, your discount is only what you would have paid the auctioneer in the first place...
    Maybe 20% lower than lower would be a better deal to unload what you farmed...

    Unless you are paying with Jeweled Idols the item will still go through AH and the AH cut still gets paid. (as there is no way to trade AD between players). You just msg ethan saying you want X and he puts it up on AH for you at -10%.
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    yeah, 20% lower is asking for too much. 10% is already best deal in dragon, u cant find any cheaper/reliable/trustworthy than us. heres an example how it works:

    cheapest TR mainhand is 1.4m AD right now
    1.4m - 10% = 1,260,000 AD
    1,260,000 AD is the price i will put it up in AH for
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  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Hello community, I've no idea where to post this type of stuff, but I just want to get the word out there; I apologize in advanced, don't flame please :)

    Yeah you guys read right, if you're in Dragon shard, we are selling all ancient mainhands and offhands for 10% cheaper than lowest Auction House buyout prices. Contact any Black Lotus member and ask for the guild lead, me :) we can discuss about what weapon(s) you want. Prices are subject to change so please do not ask me "how much?" we will tell you the price before we sell it to you (which is 10% cheaper than lowest buyout price) so no matter what, you will always get it for cheaper than the Auction House. If we do not have the weapon you want in stock, then I will add you and contact you as soon as we get it (1-2 days) its worth the wait!

    Why are we doing this? well, simply, we have too many groups farming CN all day every day and our guild only does "split runs" and we have a rule of not undercutting each other in AH. So, I came up with a solution to push all these weapons without the hassle of undercutting and waiting to sell. Spread the word and contact me in game KING Ethan@keltinblaze1 thank you

    TRANSLATION - Before the BoP patch we bought up craploads of epics from the AH and now that anybody with the funds either has all the BiS gear or has quit and it's almost impossible for newer players to get the hundred's of thousands/millions of AD needed to buy the Ancient gear due to Cryptics huge nerfhammer hitting any reasonable way to farm AD we are having much more trouble than we though shifting the stuff.
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  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    nice try, but we didn't buy any epics at all. sorry if you guys cant complete CN with bugged draco, i hope they never fix dracolich to be honest. ty
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  • fusedmassfusedmass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 252 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    nice try, but we didn't buy any epics at all. sorry if you guys cant complete CN with bugged draco, i hope they never fix dracolich to be honest. ty

    To be honest. You should list the prices. You say 10 percent cheaper then AH. Well, AH is already overly expensive. Some items are selling for 300k buy out price, others 200k. That's two separate prices. Is your price lower the lowest price or other persons price.
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    i made it pretty clear, not sure how you're confused. I can't list the prices because they are forever changing, its 10% off of the LOWEST AH buyout price, when you buy it of course, no Bullsh** like "i saw TR mainhand for 400k at one time" hope that cleared it up for u guys
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  • fusedmassfusedmass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 252 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    i made it pretty clear, not sure how you're confused. I can't list the prices because they are forever changing, its 10% off of the LOWEST AH buyout price, when you buy it of course, no Bullsh** like "i saw TR mainhand for 400k at one time" hope that cleared it up for u guys

    With a tone like that. I'm surprised you have to bump you're own thread. It's confusing. Someone can list the item for 10k and buyout price would be 5k. Since your offering 10 percent off the lowest AH price. You should honestly just sell them at a flat low rate

    100k an example.

    There's a reason people list them on the AH. It very over priced. You're offering 10 percent off, an already overpriced item. If you really want to sell. Consider selling them at flate rates and list the weapons etc that you have. When you walk into a place to eat. You get the menu and prices.

    They don't say, 10 percent off the normal price.

    Whats normal price

    Well that changes

    You wonder how I could be confused
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    all of what you're saying is true, if there were competition. understood? 10% off or 100k off, still best deal in the shard. get my drift? I can't tell you its 789k right now, cuz when you actually buy it, it could really be 945k, which i'll be losing out on, vice versa. want to discuss more about this? keep throwing wall of texts cuz nothing will prove me wrong. my point is very solid and simple, you're the one making it confusing, tone or no tone, i can be kissing your a** or be the most idiotic person in the world, you're still going to buy it because there is no better price. if you're on Dragon, please do step it up and sell for better rates, and we'll always beat that.
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  • darkexile149darkexile149 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    TRANSLATION - Before the BoP patch we bought up craploads of epics from the AH and now that anybody with the funds either has all the BiS gear or has quit and it's almost impossible for newer players to get the hundred's of thousands/millions of AD needed to buy the Ancient gear due to Cryptics huge nerfhammer hitting any reasonable way to farm AD we are having much more trouble than we though shifting the stuff.

    LoL.. Never heard something so stupid, patch was weeks ago kid. The guild KING Ethan is in farms CN with three seperate groups nearly full-time. With the rule of no undercutting guildies you can see how this can get frustrating when you have 10+ items to sell each day. The way he is setting up is a very efficient way of being able to flip items to the public for cheaper, and keep the guild happy with AD flowing in.

    Now, if you don't want to accept the deal then get the heck out, I am sure there is over 100+ people who would rather pay -100k on their daggers/orbs etc.

    **-100k was just an example of the more expensive items, this is not usually the discount for cheaper items such as off-hands.
  • fusedmassfusedmass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 252 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    all of what you're saying is true, if there were competition. understood? 10% off or 100k off, still best deal in the shard. get my drift? I can't tell you its 789k right now, cuz when you actually buy it, it could really be 945k, which i'll be losing out on, vice versa. want to discuss more about this? keep throwing wall of texts cuz nothing will prove me wrong. my point is very solid and simple, you're the one making it confusing, tone or no tone, i can be kissing your a** or be the most idiotic person in the world, you're still going to buy it because there is no better price. if you're on Dragon, please do step it up and sell for better rates, and we'll always beat that.

    That also means you could could manipulate the system. Say there is only one of your items on sell on AH. You could list the item for a higher price then the average. Which means we'd still be overpaying. Your formula is extremely confusing. You want to offer 10 percent off an item, for the lowest price the AH sells it for.

    10 percent is alright, but its not a massive difference.

    I don't write wall of texts. I learned long ago. You space out your sentences so it makes it easier to read. At very least. I use periods and capitals when I speak. There's one flaw. You consider it best price so your personality doesn't matter. I beg to differ. Sometimes people will pay a tad more just not have to deal with complex situations.

    I'm kindly offering you advice to list the items for a flat rate. The reason items are on the AH for an outrageous fee for five days. Its because it isn't selling or they'd be all gone. 10 percent off, an overpriced item. Is still 10 percent, too little.
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    also 10 percent cheaper, you forgot to mention that, which is the most important part. i thank you for your advice but our income is going very well, thank you for the bumps kind sir .. if there were 2 ancients up listed for 199k and 200k, guess which one sells first? people love anything cheaper.

    also, if you're on Dragon shard and your guild need ancient weapons, send them this way.
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  • samuraim0samuraim0 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 87
    edited September 2013
    This thread proofs the stupidity of cryptic.
  • burkeshereburkeshere Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    fusedmass wrote: »
    That also means you could could manipulate the system. Say there is only one of your items on sell on AH. You could list the item for a higher price then the average. Which means we'd still be overpaying. Your formula is extremely confusing. You want to offer 10 percent off an item, for the lowest price the AH sells it for.

    10 percent is alright, but its not a massive difference.

    I don't write wall of texts. I learned long ago. You space out your sentences so it makes it easier to read. At very least. I use periods and capitals when I speak. There's one flaw. You consider it best price so your personality doesn't matter. I beg to differ. Sometimes people will pay a tad more just not have to deal with complex situations.

    I'm kindly offering you advice to list the items for a flat rate. The reason items are on the AH for an outrageous fee for five days. Its because it isn't selling or they'd be all gone. 10 percent off, an overpriced item. Is still 10 percent, too little.
    What's the problem? If the guild is comfortable with selling the ancient wepeons for a lower price than anyone else can recieve them? that is if they don't run the dungeon themselves ; regardless they are doing a kind thing what's the problem you are complaining about exactly?
  • fathomfulfathomful Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 207 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    Since the only way you can get AD for them is to list them on the AH and you are already committed to selling for 10% under AH price, why not just list them?

    So if i were to post a CN weapon on the AH for 200 AD and take a screenshot you will sell it to me for 10% less than that?
  • keltinblaze1keltinblaze1 Member Posts: 78
    edited September 2013
    no, i'd buy your 200 AD CN weapon and sell it, what kind of question is that? be realistic. enough with the stupidity, its very simple 10% off. It's a win/win situation for the buyer and the seller, there is no trick, there is no scam, its LEGIT.

    why not just list them for 10% cheaper than the cheapest buyout price? what happens when someone undercuts it? i relist for 10% cheaper again? and again? until the peasants can give a grain of rice for an ancient?
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  • inthefade462inthefade462 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    People going to hate no matter what.

    Our guild is providing a service offering a -10% discount on ancient weapons. It saves the buyers AD and saves us headache trying to sell items, keeping track of who's turn it is to list what item, etc. If you don't like it you can always farm the items yourself or pay an extra 10% and buy it from someone else. Oh wait, wasn't your complaint that items were too expensive in AH? If you have a problem with the cost of ancients in the AH on our server, take it up with the other guilds/groups who are farming draco, that's what they are selling them for. We are selling them for 10% less than whatever they set the price at. If it's too expensive and no one buys them at that cost, then they are forced to relist it and lose their AD deposit. Eventually the price will reach the point that people are willing to pay. If you are contacting ethan to buy an ancient obviously the lowest AH price -10% is reasonable for you.
  • ausdoerrtausdoerrt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Ahah, AH scheming and price manipulation through forums, always hilarious.
  • taufan84taufan84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    fusedmass wrote: »
    To be honest. You should list the prices. You say 10 percent cheaper then AH. Well, AH is already overly expensive. Some items are selling for 300k buy out price, others 200k. That's two separate prices. Is your price lower the lowest price or other persons price.


    You fail at the basic concept of economics. Supply and demand my friend. Prices fluctuates constantly, it could be 100k today or 1mil tomorrow, who knows. Regardless, we will still be selling it at 10% cheaper than the AH buyout prices. People will still buy for whatever is cheapest out there no matter if its overpriced.
  • sarvarelsarvarel Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    taufan84 wrote: »
    ... People will still buy for whatever is cheapest out there no matter if its overpriced.

    yup, there are always this kinds of people in f2p games :D
  • komodoonekomodoone Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 64
    edited September 2013
    Sounds like a win/win,
  • frariifrarii Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    there is a trade channel in the game, dont spam in the forums, please.
  • fathomfulfathomful Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 207 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2013
    no, i'd buy your 200 AD CN weapon and sell it, what kind of question is that? be realistic. enough with the stupidity, its very simple 10% off. It's a win/win situation for the buyer and the seller, there is no trick, there is no scam, its LEGIT.

    why not just list them for 10% cheaper than the cheapest buyout price? what happens when someone undercuts it? i relist for 10% cheaper again? and again? until the peasants can give a grain of rice for an ancient?

    Not hating but since you would just buy the cheaper weapon and sell it you are showing that you are actively setting the price however you want.

    There is no discount, just clever price manipulation. Good luck though!
  • darkexile149darkexile149 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    fathomful wrote: »
    Not hating but since you would just buy the cheaper weapon and sell it you are showing that you are actively setting the price however you want.

    There is no discount, just clever price manipulation. Good luck though!

    Clever price manipulation? Some of you must not even have ever killed the Dracholich? The beam is bugged where it hits random areas one hit kill completely invisible, the wing flap is larger then the red circle it actually shows, mobs no longer are able to be bugged and you are complaining about a 10% DISCOUNT? What in the heck is wrong with you kiddies, you must never have run a CN party just for loots/profits. Everyone there is spending time & money and want to be compensated for such, having these items are dang near Best In Slot and you are able to BUY them, not FARM. If you have a problem with the discounted prices, I think you need to get off of the troll button and look elsewhere.

    IF Ethan were to start a flat rate list, I suggest he over price & under price some certain items, as I sell roughly 5-10 ancients on a daily basis I could probably help with a frequent selling rate, but you guys might not like paying MORE then what someone has UNDERCUT on the auction house, ie Fluxuating.

    GF- MH/OH Rough 300K/200K

    GWF- MH/OH Rough 700K-800K/250K

    DC- MH/OH Rough 500K/600K-700K(Price on AH atm is 1,000,000 AD)

    TR- MH/OH Rough 900K/600-700K

    CW - MH/OH Rough 800K-900K/250-300K

    With these numbers you can see what I mean by fluxuation.

    **ETHAN DOES NOT USE THESE PRICES, HE IS OFFERING A 10% OFF OF THE CURRENT AH PRICE.
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