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deadzly7
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Dear Cryptic (If this is feedback place or not)
I get it ok. You want people to come back every day. You have a bunch of dailies and we have to pray daily to keep our coins. But the campaign system you have created unfairly disadvantages people who can't play every day. Weekend only players are screwed. it will take us months to keep up with people who can play at least an hour a day. By then the new dungeon will be for "EXP ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!" so we can't get the new items.
What is a person who plays a ton on days off but can't play every single day, other than a few minutes to login and pray supposed to do?
I get it ok. You want people to come back every day. You have a bunch of dailies and we have to pray daily to keep our coins. But the campaign system you have created unfairly disadvantages people who can't play every day. Weekend only players are screwed. it will take us months to keep up with people who can play at least an hour a day. By then the new dungeon will be for "EXP ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!" so we can't get the new items.
What is a person who plays a ton on days off but can't play every single day, other than a few minutes to login and pray supposed to do?
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Clearly, you do not run Stalwart Bulwark; otherwise, you would be used to the butt love.
Not at all. You can progress through the rest of the game at your own pace. I personally have 6 lvl 60s. Mostly done with marathon sessions on weekends. It takes about a weekend to get a toon to 60.
This new system takes control of the pace of completion out of the hands of the player. That was my point.
edit: Yep, double-checked it. I could have gotten the Malabog Castle Key today, if I hadn't used the daily Vibrant Seeds to do the Plant Vibrant Seedling campaign task.
The key takes: 3 seedlings, 10 sparks, 30 moons, 5 gold, and 50k diamonds. Not hard at all.
It takes 3 days to open the castle. 2 days getting 3 seeds followed by a 16 hour wait. That means tomorrow people will have it open and farming it when weekend players START the campaign. Weekend players can't hope to actually get into the dungeon until NEXT weekend.
I see nothing wrong with having different areas that cater to different play styles. I personally dislike PvP and Gaultlegrym. But i wont begrudge those folks who enjoy it. By trying to change it to fit my own style more. Diversity is never a bad thing
Find other people who are casual/weekend-ish players at the same stage as you are and arrange to run the dungeon with them, at your own pace. You are not obligated to play with hardcore grinder types.
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A very mature response, maybe those of us who can only play those few hours is because we work, have a family, have responsibilities etc etc and we don't live in our mommy's basement (no saying you do, just making a point) without responsibi;ities just shooting the breeze.
But if you truly can't even manage to squeeze out even half an hour on some evening during the week..... not sure what to tell you. (Well, I could say that if you're playing the game under time restrictions that strong, having any expectation at all about "not falling behind the curve" is kind of unrealistic. If I could really only play on the weekend, period? I would expect that I'd be left behind. And accept it, because, well, that's life.)
Never fell behind before. If this were normal content I could log on tomorrow play until i unlocked the dungeon then farm the dungeon.
This will save me money anyway. I'll just chill out till Elder Scrolls is released.
I can understand the complaint, really, because there are weekend warriors who play mongo hours on the weekends because they work/kids/family during the week, and they can more or less keep pace. But daily quests are not designed for that, and shouldn't be -- that's the point of them --> giving players a reason to play (more than just to pray) on a daily basis, which increases their engagement. Yes, this doesn't cater to the weekend warrior players, but that's life, really. If they do it the other way, people would already be done with Feywild already.
Well anyway. Like I said. When you click that unlock it will take 16 hours to give you the key. So no, i can't play it on Sunday. This is basic math that I've given to you twice already.
You only have a few minutes to play each day? Maybe you should just stop playing MMOs and play some <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> like Angry Birds or something
And what game will it be when you fall behind in ESO as well and cry about it on their forums? Lmao. Good riddance less whiners for everyone to listen to. MMO's are timesinks, casuals like you are the reason the MMO industry is filled with so many simple poptart games these days, you won't be missed
P.S. Don't bother trying to validate yourself as a non-casual gamer, I won't be here and no one else cares I'm sure, bottom line you're a weekend warrior, and game devs will never cater to your needs. /done with thread
Lulz. "You have a life. You are bad and you should feel bad."
And a job. You probably have a job. Shunnnnnnnnnn.
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Yes, I noticed this too, but didn't want to start ridiculing vazriel, as I would have felt a bit bad about that.
Happy to agree with your Lulz comment though since I don't think vazriel really thought through the implications of his post.....
Up until this 1st mini expansion, Cryptic has still been able to cater to their core customer base. A fan of Cryptic MMOs is going to be a different demographic than people who are fans of more traditional MMOs. Yet Feywild has inherent mechanics that gate content. In a post-Feywild environment, people can't just log in once a day to pray and then indulge for many hours on the weekends. By requiring these daily reward quest tokens, Cryptic has put their traditional customer base in a bad position.
However it can also be argued that Neverwinter is trying to be something closer to a traditional MMO and less of a Cryptic MMO. I'd find that statement to be severely debatable considering the lack of endgame content and Cryptic have stated multiple times that they have no intention of creating traditional MMO raids in the near future (or ever). It would be more accurate to say that Neverwinter is trying to straddle the middle.
People who are used to more traditional MMOs will now have more things to do in Neverwinter with all of these daily quests. Even if these quests will start to be become boring in the near future, there will be solo and group content for them to participate in. It's clear that Cryptic is trying to retain this customer base since these are the people who have been leaving Neverwinter.
Cryptic is messing with their traditional customer base in an attempt to satisfy a customer base who has usually ignored their games. I personally think that this is dumb since it means that Cryptic is just participating in the usual MMO fallacies about trying to change your game in order to attract customers who you will never be able to ultimately satisfy, but that's my own opinion. It's clear that Cryptic considers their strategy to be a positive thing and I'm thinking that the Feywild content will be just the 1st wave of things to come.
(For the record, I have no issue with the fact that my not logging in every day will keep me from being on the bleeding edge of new content. However I can see how this will bother others, which is why I made this commentary post.)
Yep you are correct , I started my key today (takes 16 hours to make/craft) so 2 days of doing the dailies and a night crafting the key and you get access to the new dungeon.